Goodbye pac 12?

cheatlakerob

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Or could they say get out to those who want paid, or will this become a national trend?

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...atens-opt-makes-list-demands-injustice-safety

 

Orlaco

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You think BLM takes the time to explain to scholarship players that one of the biggest life improving actions they could make is taking advantage of the free advanced education. ....’advantage’ meaning taking ‘serious’ classes with a ‘serious’ objective/goal/degree?

Or...like in the case of Texas...just want some money thrown their (BLM or equivalent) way....
 

mzman

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I don't know about everyone else, but if the college football players start mimicking the BLM movement and demanding all kinds of stuff, I won't watch a game. This thing has moved way beyond racial injustice.
 

MoTownWV

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SEC players voiced concerns with playing during a conference call as well.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...llege-football-season-amid-covid-19-pandemic/

Paying the players was the first step towards the forming of a union under the next Democratic administration with backing of the NLRB. That will be the end of college sports and with the spread of online learning prepare for hundreds of colleges to close wrecking the local economies where those schools are located. WVU will survive but many won’t.
 

302eer

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We’re watching capitalism at work. Might not be recognizable because it isn’t the lowest part cheering on the highest for underpaying them (and getting mad when we raise their taxes), but if you’ve got the goods, make them pay what you can get.
 

WVU enginEER

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This could be the biggest lesson they learn in college. The question is whether or not the fans will stand for it (at any university); and if fans have had enough of the ********, fans pull funding, football program revenue dries up and program goes down *******. Scholarships gone and free education - worth 10's of thousands of dollars - disappears. Will be interesting how it plays out.

As a person who paid every single penny of the cost of my college degrees, if they lose their scholarships, I will not shed one tear. If it all goes down the *******, I keep all my donation and ticket money and travel the country. Shut it all down!
 

Walter Brennaneer

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Let the players do what they want. Expel them for the university and take away their scholarship and exposure mechanism. Quit giving them a platform to protest on. MSM will eat this **** up.
 

Walter Brennaneer

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This could be the biggest lesson they learn in college. The question is whether or not the fans will stand for it (at any university); and if fans have had enough of the ********, fans pull funding, football program revenue dries up and program goes down *******. Scholarships gone and free education - worth 10's of thousands of dollars - disappears. Will be interesting how it plays out.

As a person who paid every single penny of the cost of my college degrees, if they lose their scholarships, I will not shed one tear. If it all goes down the *******, I keep all my donation and ticket money and travel the country. Shut it all down!
[thumbsup][thumbsup][thumbsup][thumbsup][thumbsup][thumbsup] Nailed it!
 

Walter Brennaneer

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I don't know about everyone else, but if the college football players start mimicking the BLM movement and demanding all kinds of stuff, I won't watch a game. This thing has moved way beyond racial injustice.

It was never about racial justice it was about changing the US to Europe's ways which have always suck badly.
 

bleedbluegold3

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I don't know about everyone else, but if the college football players start mimicking the BLM movement and demanding all kinds of stuff, I won't watch a game. This thing has moved way beyond racial injustice.
@KingofTowers
 

Walter Brennaneer

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Going to be a lot of highly paid coaches coming to frontline in attempt to stop this ********. Their huge paydays depend on crushing this soon...real real soon.
 

EERS 2 Ya

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I don't know about everyone else, but if the college football players start mimicking the BLM movement and demanding all kinds of stuff, I won't watch a game. This thing has moved way beyond racial injustice.
Im already not watching over the vic fiasco
 

MikeIII

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What is stopping a player, whether college or professional, from using their own time, their own money, and/or their own initiative to address injustices of any kind? Why must another group be forced into it as well, not to mention doing it in the manner said player demands?

Simply out of principle, I hope they are allowed to boycott. If the conference gives in, where do the demands end?
 

Still...AllDayLong

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I don't know about everyone else, but if the college football players start mimicking the BLM movement and demanding all kinds of stuff, I won't watch a game. This thing has moved way beyond racial injustice.

Where have you been? It’s already happening here. We have to run everything by Kerry Martin now.
 

older gold

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Okay, we have a football team that is playing for a Coach that makes around $3 million and an Athletic Director making in the high six figures.
And a program that makes around $100 million.

And we are somewhere around average with those numbers compared to other programs.

I think there is plenty of money to take better care of these people.
 

MarineMountie

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Okay, we have a football team that is playing for a Coach that makes around $3 million and an Athletic Director making in the high six figures.
And a program that makes around $100 million.

And we are somewhere around average with those numbers compared to other programs.

I think there is plenty of money to take better care of these people.

Wish I had all the free **** that they do. The medical students probably wish they get the benefits that the athletic scholarship people get as well.
 

Thumper

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We’re watching capitalism at work. Might not be recognizable because it isn’t the lowest part cheering on the highest for underpaying them (and getting mad when we raise their taxes), but if you’ve got the goods, make them pay what you can get.
 

Gold-n-Blue

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Bottom line, its all about getting paid. College Football make billions and the labor that generates it wants a bigger piece. Right now we pump $$ into coaches salaries and facilities. Because we fought changing the dynamic, this is what happens. Not saying it is right or wrong, but we should have seen this coming and been in front of it.
 

Janemof1998

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The PAC 12 should just shut it down this year. The players list of demands tying in health concerns with compensation and "racial injustice" just seems like a cluster to me.

"The group's list of demands, according to the text message, includes safe play amid the pandemic, fighting racial injustice, securing economic rights and fair compensation, protecting all sports and obtaining long-term health insurance."

Not surprising for most of that area though. First of all, everyone is working on safe play this season. A fact of life is that everyone who leaves their house is assuming some level of risk, even before the "pandemic". But to have all of their "demands" be put into a contract within the next 2 weeks is just bizarre and unrealistic. If they cancel their season, which I think they should, does that affect any other league since they were just going to do in-conference this year anyway?
 
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Flaeer

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How does a conference fight racial injustice? Hell the majority of its athletes are likely minorities. Im guessing they want extortion payments to BLM
 

Raven Shaddock

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Liberalism/Marxism is a disease that destroys everything it touches.

Pray you don't become infected.

In fact, prayer is one of the things that Marxism flees from.

Just a little advice from your local Maytag repair man.
 

Casey Ryback

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Okay, we have a football team that is playing for a Coach that makes around $3 million and an Athletic Director making in the high six figures.
And a program that makes around $100 million.

And we are somewhere around average with those numbers compared to other programs.

I think there is plenty of money to take better care of these people.

No there’s not. The PAC 12 conference lost millions last year. The money generated by football & men’s basketball goes to cover the cost of facilities these athletes use, Olympic non-revenue sports & comply with Title IX funding for women’s athletics. The former Big 10 commissioner said years ago when Northwestern started this ****, they would go the way of the Ivy league.
 

AnthonyKrumpach

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Jul 19, 2012
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Okay, we have a football team that is playing for a Coach that makes around $3 million and an Athletic Director making in the high six figures.
And a program that makes around $100 million.

And we are somewhere around average with those numbers compared to other programs.

I think there is plenty of money to take better care of these people.

I'm all for taking better care of the student athletes, including making scholarships five years. I also don't have an issue with covering health insurance.

I am also more than fine seeing the conferences taking way less money. Still I can not support money going to a undefined movement that can't agree on how to battle racial injustice.
 

beegledeer

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I'm all for taking better care of the student athletes, including making scholarships five years. I also don't have an issue with covering health insurance.

I am also more than fine seeing the conferences taking way less money. Still I can not support money going to a undefined movement that can't agree on how to battle racial injustice.
They have health insurance paid for them while in school !!! All students have to have it. Regular non scholarship students pay for their own insurance when paying tuition!!!
 

Cavaleer

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The PAC 12 should just shut it down this year. The players list of demands tying in health concerns with compensation and "racial injustice" just seems like a cluster to me.

"The group's list of demands, according to the text message, includes safe play amid the pandemic, fighting racial injustice, securing economic rights and fair compensation, protecting all sports and obtaining long-term health insurance."

Not surprising for most of that area though. First of all, everyone is working on safe play this season. A fact of life is that everyone who leaves their house is assuming some level of risk, even before the "pandemic". But to have all of their "demands" be put into a contract within the next 2 weeks is just bizarre and unrealistic. If they cancel their season, which I think they should, does that affect any other league since they were just going to do in-conference this year anyway?

Obviously won’t happen but it would be interesting if the Pac12 did choose to shut it down. Check mate!

If the Pac12 were ever going to do that, this year of all years, would be the year to do it. Almost a certainty to be less than a full season and quite possible the season ends up being a glorified exhibition season anyway. Do it Pac12.....for the good of the game!
 

DubVeeTexan

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Jan 30, 2014
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Tax them. Tax the education, the food, the medical, the stipend, the housing, the clothing then we will see how far they want to take it.
 

WVUALLEN

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What is stopping a player, whether college or professional, from using their own time, their own money, and/or their own initiative to address injustices of any kind? Why must another group be forced into it as well, not to mention doing it in the manner said player demands?

Simply out of principle, I hope they are allowed to boycott. If the conference gives in, where do the demands end?

Demands never end. They only increase.
 

doneagain

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I think we should allow college football players to be buried in Arlington National Cemetary.
 

DubVeeTexan

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The best part is if they “pay” these guys... there will be like 15 schools that can make it. The rest will quickly fall off. For them to think that the 3rd string DB at Purdue will get paid as the 3rd string DB at Ohio State is laughable.