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I guarantee without looking you could not name more than four teams in our conference. Three teams are predicted to be in the tournament and two of them are currently ranked. You have absolutely no interest whatsoever in educating yourself about the conference.
Top of my head. Zags, BYU, St marys, Pepperdine, Santa Clara, SF and a bunch of other humps. Is that enough? I watch a lot of BB.
 

kyjeff1

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If it’s so easy why do so few teams do it?
Do what? Play in a conference that has a bunch of teams rated in the 200's and 300's???

San Francisco has two national titles, so it has been done, but bigtime athletes are going to power 5 conferences and I don't think I have to explain why.

Nobody is denying that Mark Few has built a hell of a program out there. He's getting overseas kids and transfers, which is brilliant. Most other mid major programs don’t have the budget that Gonzaga has for recruiting I guess.

But it doesn't change the fact that Gonzaga plays in a **** conference. Gonzaga is the only program in that conference that has actual D1 players that have size and skill. Men amongst boys. You can't deny that Gonzaga has a huge advantage by playing those HS teams, while everyone else has to play legit D1 P5 teams twice a week.

If this Gonzaga team was in a P5 conference, they wouldn't be in line for a 1 seed, they would have a lot more losses.
 

thespywhozaggedme1

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Top of my head. Zags, BYU, St marys, Pepperdine, Santa Clara, SF and a bunch of other humps. Is that enough? I watch a lot of BB.
Fair enough. I just don’t understand the point in continuing to denigrate our conference when we can’t do anything about it. Is it a great conference, no. But if three teams are going to make the tournament it is not the MEAC or the SWAC either.
 

thespywhozaggedme1

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Do what? Play in a conference that has a bunch of teams rated in the 200's and 300's???

San Francisco has two national titles, so it has been done, but bigtime athletes are going to power 5 conferences and I don't think I have to explain why.

Nobody is denying that Mark Few has built a hell of a program out there. He's getting overseas kids and transfers, which is brilliant. Most other mid major programs don’t have the budget that Gonzaga has for recruiting I guess.

But it doesn't change the fact that Gonzaga plays in a **** conference. Gonzaga is the only program in that conference that has actual D1 players that have size and skill. Men amongst boys. You can't deny that Gonzaga has a huge advantage by playing those HS teams, while everyone else has to play legit D1 P5 teams twice a week.

If this Gonzaga team was in a P5 conference, they wouldn't be in line for a 1 seed, they would have a lot more losses.
You are that hot chick that is so insecure and so desperate for attention, you will point out the flaws on the other hot chicks just so more people will notice you.. A “****” conference does not get three teams in the tournament.
 
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kyjeff1

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They shoot 8 3’s a game,they don’t shoot a lot of 3’s that’s why they have such a good percentage.
I see where you are getting that stat, but it's not right. I assure you, Gonzaga shoots more that eight 3's per game.
I have watchedca lot of their games, they shoot more than 8 in a half.

Take a look at this link. Look at the FG attempts. It doesn't jive. They've played 28 games, they have shot 554 three pointers. That's almost 20 per game, which makes a lot more sense than 8pg.

2019-20 Men's Basketball Cumulative Statistics - Gonzaga University Athletics
https://gozags.com/sports/mens-basketball/stats/2019-20
 

kyjeff1

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You are that hot chick that is so insecure and so desperate for attention, you will point out the flaws on the other hot chicks just so more people will notice you.. A “****” conference does not get three teams in the tournament.
Wait, wait, wait, wait… .I'm the one seeking attention, but your dumb *** is on a UK board after every Gonzaga game and you're always looking for validation and getting offended when we don't kiss Gonzaga's ***.

The irony in your post is deafening. Wow.
 
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Jamal Mercer

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Why when the thread topic is specifically Gonzaga? Again, no one is questioning Kentucky’s worthiness.

Because it’s a UK message board. We are all obsessed with UK. It happens.

Is it fun being a Gonzaga fan and playing cupcakes from January to March? Serious question. Going into their high school gyms?

Pepperdine, San Diego, LMU.....what a fantastic schedule for the Zag season ticket holders. Really preps them for March.
 

Bigblueamyou

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I see where you are getting that stat, but it's not right. I assure you, Gonzaga shoots more that eight 3's per game.
I have watchedca lot of their games, they shoot more than 8 in a half.

Take a look at this link. Look at the FG attempts. It doesn't jive. They've played 28 games, they have shot 554 three pointers. That's almost 20 per game, which makes a lot more sense than 8pg.

2019-20 Men's Basketball Cumulative Statistics - Gonzaga University Athletics
https://gozags.com/sports/mens-basketball/stats/2019-20
They must not do that on a regular basis because the average would be up.
 
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kyjeff1

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Or maybe you don’t know how to divide...554/28 is a lot more than 8.
That’s not what happened. Go to the link I posted above. In that link, it states that they attempted 554 three pointers, but just below that, it says that Gonzaga averages 7.8 3 pointers per game.

Must be a misprint
 

thespywhozaggedme1

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Wait, wait, wait, wait… .I'm the one seeking attention, but your dumb *** is on a UK board aglfter every Gonzaga game and you're always looking for validation and getting offended when we don't kiss Gonzaga's ***.

The irony in your post is deafening. Wow.
you actually used the word irony in proper context. Color me impressed. I don’t need any validation, we are number two in the country. It is all the validation we need.
 

thespywhozaggedme1

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Remember all those Gonzaga players that went to the NBA and were successful?

It’s almost as if they were never really tested in college.
You mean like Domantas Sabonis who was an all star this year? Or Brandon Clark and Rui Hachimura who will be first team all rookies this year? Or Kelly Olynyk who has been in the NBA for almost 10 years?
 
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king of cali

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That’s not what happened. Go to the link I posted above. In that link, it states that they attempted 554 three pointers, but just below that, it says that Gonzaga averages 7.8 3 pointers per game.

Must be a misprint

That would be 3 pointers made per game.
 
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Zagnutz [laughing]

 

GoZags1

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Do what? Play in a conference that has a bunch of teams rated in the 200's and 300's???

How about a little accuracy while throwing your darts ... at present the 10 member have 4 schools in the KenPom Top 100 (3, 21,38, 88) 3 schools in the 100's (121. 131,138) and 2 in the 200's (208, 214, 289).

Other than that, good point. (unless by "bunch" you mean "three" ... two of which are in the low 200's and zero of which are in the 300's)
 

GoZags1

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yes you claimed gonzaga performed to seed 17/20 years and i cherry picked all 6 years that they under performed in that time span

Yes ... the GU fan that posted that was flat out wrong.

A better point might have been that during Gonzaga's "cute little run" of 21 straight dances, GU is 18-3 in opening round games. And ... in that run they've had 10 seed (Elite 8), 10 seed (Sweet 16), 12 seed (Sweet 16), 9 seed (round of 32), 8 seed (round of 32), 11 seed (round of 32), 7 seed (round of 32), 8 seed (round of 32), and 11 seed (Sweet 16). So ... 18-3 is accurate, and isn't all that bad.
 

revcort

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Fair enough. I just don’t understand the point in continuing to denigrate our conference when we can’t do anything about it. Is it a great conference, no. But if three teams are going to make the tournament it is not the MEAC or the SWAC either.
Spywhozagged... the reason we rag on your conference is because Gonzaga and Kentucky have been in direct competition for top seeds for many years and we know that our path to get to the record we have has been MUCH more difficult. It shouldn't be that difficult to understand. You don't even have to accuse any of us of insecurity or obsession. We are equal opportunity basketball talkers and team bashers. The teams we bash are the ones who are our competition for top seeds in the NCAAT. So, take it as a compliment or keep attacking everyone who does exactly what you would expect a college basketball fan who is very loyal to their own team to do. :D
 

kyjeff1

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you actually used the word irony in proper context. Color me impressed. I don’t need any validation, we are number two in the country. It is all the validation we need.
You know what else is #2?

You're #2 because you haven't played anyone worth a damn in 2 months. Everyone else has been losing games, because they play real teams each week.
 

kyjeff1

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How about a little accuracy while throwing your darts ... at present the 10 member have 4 schools in the KenPom Top 100 (3, 21,38, 88) 3 schools in the 100's (121. 131,138) and 2 in the 200's (208, 214, 289).

Other than that, good point. (unless by "bunch" you mean "three" ... two of which are in the low 200's and zero of which are in the 300's)
I don't see a team beyond Gonzaga in that conference that would have more than 4 wins in any power 5 conference.
The teams Gonzaga gets to play are full of high school sized boys.

I give San Francisco credit, they had a nice spread offense and did okay last night until Gonzaga's size was too much. But that's what would happen to San Francisco in any power 5 conference.
 

thespywhozaggedme1

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You know what else is #2?

You're #2 because you haven't played anyone worth a damn in 2 months. Everyone else has been losing games, because they play real teams each week.
You seem to be under the impression that a team is automatically not good simply because they don’t play in a top conference. Those two schools of thought are mutually exclusive. We played in the championship game just two seasons ago. Plus Butler made the championship game and back to back seasons VCU has made a final four and so has George Mason. You really need to takeoff your SEC blinders.
 

thespywhozaggedme1

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Because it’s a UK message board. We are all obsessed with UK. It happens.

Is it fun being a Gonzaga fan and playing cupcakes from January to March? Serious question. Going into their high school gyms?

Pepperdine, San Diego, LMU.....what a fantastic schedule for the Zag season ticket holders. Really preps them for March.
The Marriott Center where BYU plays seats 20,000 people. We are playing there tomorrow night. BYU is ranked in the top 25.
 

fatguy87

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The top 3 in the WCC aren't too shabby. Gonzaga, St. Mary's, and BYU are all tournament caliber. The next best team is San Francisco, and they are about Ole Miss level.
 
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Fair enough. I just don’t understand the point in continuing to denigrate our conference when we can’t do anything about it. Is it a great conference, no. But if three teams are going to make the tournament it is not the MEAC or the SWAC either.
My point is in the past the Zags scheduled some Top 10 games and by winning those it could somewhat justify a 1 seed, but this year that isn't the case and with your best win being Oregon in OT by 1 when they are 20-7, that's not enough for a 1 seed when you break down your schedule especially the non-conference. No Power 5 team would get a 1 seed with that schedule.
 
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thespywhozaggedme1

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My point is in the past the Zags scheduled some Top 10 games and by winning those it could somewhat justify a 1 seed, but this year that isn't the case and with your best win being Oregon in OT by 1 when they are 20-7, that's not enough for a 1 seed when you break down your schedule especially the non-conference. No Power 5 team would get a 1 seed with that schedule.
Of course they would if they only lost one game all season.
 

kyjeff1

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You seem to be under the impression that a team is automatically not good simply because they don’t play in a top conference. Those two schools of thought are mutually exclusive. We played in the championship game just two seasons ago. Plus Butler made the championship game and back to back seasons VCU has made a final four and so has George Mason. You really need to takeoff your SEC blinders.
SEC blinders? I never said the SEC was the cream of the crop. I'm talking about all power 5 conferences.

Congrats on naming 3 schools that went on a run to the final four. Care to talk about ratios? Yeah, it's cool that 4 or 5 mid majors have made it to the final four, but that's a joke compared to the amount of power 5 schools that have made it to the FF.

Again, I never said Gonzaga wasn’t a good team. They're a great team, but they're hiding in a garbage conference and are going to get a 1 seed because of it.

If this Gonzaga team was in a true P5 conference, they would have a lot more than 1 loss and would not be in line for a 1 seed.

This is a good Gonzaga team, but a far cry from several of your previous teams and is no final four caliber team… in my "opinion".
 
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Of course they would if they only lost one game all season.
Not with other Power 5 teams having better resumes which they would and do. Face it, the Zags get a resume most years for doing the least. Most teams can't hide out for 2 months+ and not be tried and be in the conversation for a 1. If the Zags had our schedule they would have at least 7-8 losses. But once again we will see when the Tourney starts and the Zags get the much easier path than most but go down anyway.
 
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thespywhozaggedme1

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Not with other Power 5 teams having better resumes which they would and do. Face it, the Zags get a resume most years for doing the least. Most teams can't hide out for 2 months+ and not be tried and be in the conversation for a 1. If the Zags had our schedule they would have at least 7-8 losses. But once again we will see when the Tourney starts and the Zags get the much easier path than most but go down anyway.
If it’s so easy why does no other team do it? And what do you mean by, “go down anyway”? Doesn’t every single team in the country except for one eventually, “go down anyway”?
 
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LineSkiCat14

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We've done this before.. plenty of Gonzaga teams were "the one" until they weren't.

You just can't go down to San Fran by that much in the 1st half, and still be considered one of the few elite teams on the year. No one is saying Gonzaga can't make a Final4, but that they aren't one of the top 2 or 3 teams.
 
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thespywhozaggedme1

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We've done this before.. plenty of Gonzaga teams were "the one" until they weren't.

You just can't go down to San Fran by that much in the 1st half, and still be considered one of the few elite teams on the year. No one is saying Gonzaga can't make a Final4, but that they aren't one of the top 2 or 3 teams.
We’re #2 in the country.
 

Cats192

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Is there really a Gonzaga fan on the Kentucky board? Never thought I'd see the day.

Look man, nice team like every other year.

Your last ranked opponent was Arizona back in December. This schedule isn't going to prepare you guys for the grind of March.
 

thespywhozaggedme1

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Is there really a Gonzaga fan on the Kentucky board? Never thought I'd see the day.

Look man, nice team like every other year.

Your last ranked opponent was Arizona back in December. This schedule isn't going to prepare you guys for the grind of March.
Hasn’t hurt us yet