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Godfrey's Article, "Crooked Letters" Released

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DawgESQ

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Should be a fair look at the story... (spoiler: it's not)

"In less literary terms: If you’re an Ole Miss fan, you’re probably an ******* lawyer in seersucker. If you’re a Mississippi State fan, you’re probably an ******* redneck in camouflage. Mississippi is a small place — the campuses are a two-hour drive apart — which means a lot of these folks know each other, too."

https://www.sbnation.com/a/ole-miss-leo-lewis-ncaa-enforcement-recruitment-violations
 
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aTotal360

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And it's coming from a clan that drapes themselves in the Confederate flag.
 
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I know more Ole Miss fans that are ******* rednecks in camouflage than seersuckers. In fact they’d probably ask their fellow camo clad ******* redneck friend to hold their bud light so they can beat up the ******* in the seersucker.
 
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If he wants to be taken seriously then he needs to put names on his quotes. Not just "an SEC coach said". If he's too scared to name the people then I just assume he's making it all up.
 
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He's pushing it more from the "NCAA is a bad system, players need to be paid" angle, or at least that's my take
 
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Fair and balanced? Unbiased? "Not a fan of my alma mater?"

As Woodie Assaf would like to say, "That's some ********."

Here are some clippings from Godfrey's blog.

Just admit it so we can move on.

"We won. WE, the big, fat editorial 'we'..."



"Am I the only one still grumpy about Ole Miss being passed over by the Cap One..."



"I might stake my life on the alma mater's success..."
 
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If they had any integrity at all as a news source, they should note that Godfrey is an OM grad in the first sentence or in his title. He has zero objectivity.
 
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Here's the short version. Godfrey, who still only relies on Ole Miss sources, has no doubt the Lewis lied about every detail of his testimony. And, in conclusion, Lewis will get what's coming to him.

The only way this story could create real change in the NCAA is if Lewis is held to a higher standard than every other coach, administrator, school, or NCAA official that worked against his welfare.

Unlike everyone else in this story, Leo Lewis is still expected to tell the truth.
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It's just a 12,000 word summary of every Spirit message board post. Lewis is a liar, everyone cheats, State cheated too, the NCAA wanted to get Ole Miss, and Lewis will pay for what he said to the NCAA.

Though he tries to frame it in a holier-than-thou, the NCAA isn't working to protect athletes, narrative.
 
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Does anybody really care anymore except OM fans? I mean, the nation as a whole couldn’t care less about the investigation and probation and for that to continually be the only thing he writes about strikes me as really dumb.
 
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I bet it chaps the asses of writers like Yancy Porter and Steven Godfrey that somebody like Rosebowl made a few bucks off the NCAA investigation of Ole Miss athletics and now they're left with worthless sloppy seconds.
 
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Did you read the portion I quoted? It's a sub-headline that Ole Miss alumni are all lawyers and State alumni are all rednecks. Even if he's fairly reporting the facts, the subtext is that he absolutely loathes State.
 
aTotal360

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OM painting themselves as nothing but lawyers is like us painting ourselves as nothing but veterinarians.
 
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Xenomorph said:
I bet it chaps the asses of writers like Yancy Porter and Steven Godfrey that somebody like Rosebowl made a few bucks off the NCAA investigation of Ole Miss athletics and now they're left with worthless sloppy seconds.
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Godfrey had an even better opportunity to expose what was going on at Ole Miss since he knows the ins and outs of the program, administrators, etc. After all, he’s not a fan of the university. For some reason, he decided to only report what OM officials were asking him to report. Strange**
 
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Godfrey still trying to be the hero to the Bears fan base like Rosebowl was for

us. He still hasn't hit his target. I get it, he hates MSU and like to tell everyone that will listen how we are inferior in all ways to Ole Miss, he is
most definetly a fan of OM.
 
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"Mr. Courage" himself, Godfrey

Rosebowl was physically and financially threatened for his expose on the most corrupt Athletic Department in the history of sports.

All Godfrey has to worry about is incessant mockery and laughter at his expense.
 
aTotal360

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You're right. He probably knows about more dead skeletons than any "journalist" associated with OM. Problem is he prefers being a regional beat writer than exposing OM for his own gain. He could pull the pin on a 30 for 30 caliber story, but he never will. At least he's loyal.
 
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I'm a State grad. It wasn't until I went to State that I was called a "redneck"

Since my parents were from Iowa, I had a northern accent and used to be mocked as a "Yankee".

It wasn't until I went to State that I was called a "redneck"....or, more precisely, "RaidNaik" by some unibrowed, drooling, window-licking, talk-like-they-have-****-in-their-mouth Ole Miss fan, errrrrrr, Rebel fan with a Southern accent.

I never even took an Ag class (although I wish I did).
 
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I labored to read the. whole. damn. thing. I wish I had a time machine to get that half hour back. It was definitely not unbiased. Much of it was hearsay and incredibly hard to follow. At least he admitted that he was in denial and wrong throughout the investigative process. I know that there were elements of the truth smattered throughout his piece; but, there was nothing really new or eye opening. Godfrey's writing style is terrible.


Cliff notes on a few points Godfrey tried to make:

Lindsey Miller, Dan Mullen, Leo Lewis = really bad human beings
NCAA = worst, most inconsistent, unfair organization on earth that changed nothing following 6 years of investigation
Freeze = great coach with flimsy morals and hugely overconfident ego
Ole Miss boosters just did what every other major school does, pay players
Ole Miss Admin = dumbasses
Lost in everything is (from Godfrey's view) Tunsil AND Ole Miss fans were screwed by everyone
MSU boosters are masterminds of how to get away with murder and Mullen was behind the curtains pulling the NCAA's strings
Terry Warren is going to get rich off of Leo Lewis' future earnings.
 
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PBRME said:
I know more Ole Miss fans that are ******* rednecks in camouflage than seersuckers. In fact they’d probably ask their fellow camo clad ******* redneck friend to hold their bud light so they can beat up the ******* in the seersucker.
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This is the correct answer. Ole miss is the preferred in state university for the uneducated redneck in the state that has the Confederate flag on his bumper. The better analogy is that ole miss fans are generally effite, ******* lawyers and uneducated rednecks, while state fans are generally educated rednecks and math/science nerds.

The very reason ole miss props up oxford, culture, and snobbiness is because they are trying to run away from the truth about their fanbase.
 
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Maroonandwhite said:
I labored to read the. whole. damn. thing. I wish I had a time machine to get that half hour back. It was definitely not unbiased. Much of it was hearsay and incredibly hard to follow. At least he admitted that he was in denial and wrong throughout the investigative process. I know that there were elements of the truth smattered throughout his piece; but, there was nothing really new or eye opening. Godfrey's writing style is terrible.


Cliff notes on a few points Godfrey tried to make:

Lindsey Miller, Dan Mullen, Leo Lewis = really bad human beings
NCAA = worst, most inconsistent, unfair organization on earth that changed nothing following 6 years of investigation
Freeze = great coach with flimsy morals and hugely overconfident ego
Ole Miss boosters just did what every other major school does, pay players
Ole Miss Admin = dumbasses
Lost in everything is (Godfrey's view) Tunsil AND Ole Miss fans were screwed by everyone
MSU boosters are masterminds of how to get away with murder and Mullen was behind the curtains pulling the NCAA's strings
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Why write this crap if there is nothing new? No one outside the two fanbases will take the time to read this ****.

I ain't clicking.
 
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The words ‘Leo Lewsi’ Are the most used words in the article. More than High Freeze, Barney Farrar, et al... Really everything you need to know about that hack story.
 
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Well, you guys can say what you want about it, but Godfrey does admit he was lied to by UMiss in this. (Someone posted earlier that one reason they don't respect Godfrey is that he won't admit he was lied to). I have only read the first half, so I haven't seen what he said about Leo Lewis and Mullen, but so far he was fairly harsh on Hugh Freeze and Laremy Tunsil. The major slant of the story seems to be condemning the NCAA - both their process and their motives.

Having kept up with Rosebowl's info on things, I like getting a different perpsective. But I do have to question why Godfrey would continue to rely on sources who he knows lied to him in the 2016 time frame. Here's where he admits being lied to:

A week later, multiple media outlets, including SB Nation, reported that Ole Miss sources believed most of the major violations were not related to Freeze’s tenure. In fact, these sources said, most of what the NCAA was alleging had happened under Houston Nutt.
Here’s what we reported at the time:
One Ole Miss source tells Steven Godfrey they believe only five of the 32 are alleged football violations, and that coaches are “confident” allegations related to the current staff are secondary violations. In addition, an NCAA source tells [SB Nation reporter] Bud Elliott that the “vast majority” of the football allegations are more than two years old.
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An Ole Miss official told Godfrey that almost all of the allegations are women’s basketball, track, Tunsil, and football from six years ago, during previous coach Houston Nutt’s tenure.
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I now know that most of what I was told that day was untrue.
I don’t know who among Ole Miss representatives thought it would be wise to lie to multiple members of the national media about an NCAA investigation, the details of which would eventually become public. But I know why they did.


 
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HEY WAIT A MINUTE... IS THIS RIGHT RE: TUNSIL?

According to these sources, some time before signing with Freeze’s agent, Jimmy Sexton, during Christmas of 2015, Tunsil had dumped this “business manager.”
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I seem to recall one Laremy Tunsil playing in the Sugar Bowl in January of 2016. Which, if I remember correctly, was sometime after Christmas 2015...
 
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Someone asked for the cliff notes from the article, Godfrey’s perspective. So having read it for purely curious reasons, I felt obliged to answer. Only new info was that he admits he was wrong about the investigation. Sorry I bored you. 😜
 
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