Godfrey on Ole Miss & the NCAA...

[Maroon Eagle]

Link: Here.

 

[BiscuitEater]

David Johnson's latest .. Ready or Not, Here it comes .. http://olemiss.247sports.com/Article/Column-Ready-Or-Not-Here-It-Comes-53032356

Summary.. This week is it!.. OM is being threatened by both Nutt and Barney on the legal front .. plus, rumor mill suggests a small group of OM boosters are ready to mount their own legal proceedings.

Still can't figure if the boosters intend to sue to 'remain hidden,' sue OM or sue the NCAA. ALL 3 options are bad for OM.

Well .. I'm back to my rueing.

 

[DerHntr]

Yeah. That guy isn't an OM fan at all. Holy crap.

 

[aTotal360]

Looks like he wrote an article about OM's investigation that's merely a facade for how MSU is actually the scorned lover and smoking gun.

I really wish he would have stuck to writing about atomic leg drops and doomsday devices.

 

[engie]

Yeah, I'm not sure how he counted four level 1s in the initial NOA. I counted Eight.

 

[57stratdawg]

When Tunsil famously admitted to taking money from Ole Miss at a draft night press conference, the NCAA took that free pass and expanded its investigation. In May of 2016, the Rebels self-imposed a reduction of 11 scholarships over four years.

Maybe Godfrey has supporting evidence, but everything I know says that statement isn't true. The Rags guy said OM and NCAA sting operation happened in February or March of 2016. Draft night doesn't happen until April. Rosebowl said over and over and over again between January 2016 and April 2016 that the investigation was still on-going.

It's an important point, because OM tries themselves as an unfortunate victim of circumstances, but thats BS. Wolken said on XM the night after NOA 2 that the plan was always for the NCAA to show a systemic pattern of non-compliance over multiple classes, coaches, sports and administrations. In other words, the plan was always to nail OM to a cross. Stop acting like the 'stars aligned' for the NCAA.

 

[Shamoan]

fresh hot-takery right there

 

[TheStateUofMS]

The fact he even says "OM may get out bc of the 'masterful' defense" says it all

What an idiot.


No, no, no Steven...there is no running from this, but you can keep thinking that. I'm sure they will believe in their tiny little heads they will be challenging multi year bowl bans and 20+ scholly reductions AFTER they are handed out.

When your pathological, you believe your own delusions. They've been pathological for a while. I think it may get worse before they begin the coping phase.

Goodness what a ridiculous bunch.

Where the CL's defense piece?****

 

[patdog]

What a passive aggressive little **** he is. I sure don't miss him posting on this board. And no, *******, MSU doesn't loom large in this case. Enjoy your soon to be vacated Sugar Bowl win because it's going to be your last one for a long time.

 

[jb1020]

You can always tell if an article is written by an OM homer

when no matter what the subject of the article is....the 2 wins against Bama get mentioned.

 

[Xenomorph]

I guess 20,000 word articles where you thumb your nose at the NCAA while revealing how the bagmen work at your school don't seem like such a good idea now, huh?

 

[mount lefroy]

Link: Here.

"The NCAA issued its first Notice of Allegations to Ole Miss in January of 2016."

So, if that statement is true, OM turned over the NOA immediately after receiving it. Months after we'd been talking about it.

Perhaps the statement should have read, Ole Miss admitted to being in possession of the first Notice of Allegations in January 2016 after a national writer leaked they had it. Considering when the NCAA knew of wrongdoing with the ULL/Saunders findings, it's anyone's guess as to how long OM held it. I heard about the details of the ACT fraud the previous fall.

Godfrey, similar to McCready, seems to be someone that OM uses to put out the narrative that this whole scandal was some sort of surprise pearl harbor attack conducted by the ncaa to hold them back for winning football games vs Bama. Additionally they seem to both want to focus on Leo Lewis and the immunity granted him to confirm details that they already knew of.

Robertson's book and ethics commission dealings may challenge the timeline about how this all transpired.

 

[messageboardsuperhero]

I love how this is somehow about MSU- as if we are the only school who turned their *** in... And as if they haven't done the same thing to us multiple times in the past.

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

"Ole Miss Friendly Media" Yancy or Neal could have written this article

 

[coach66]

It's a huge part of their narrative that is 100% incorrect. The investigation

was not over when Tunsil showed out.

 

[HD6]

I'm fascinated to know who broke a federal law by revealing a student athlete's identity. I hope they work for Ole Miss.

 

[57stratdawg]

9 after one infractions was upgraded to schedule 1 during NOA #2, I believe.

 

[DancingRabbit]

Neal McCready say OM fans would begrudgingly accept 15-20 schollies,

a 1-year bowl ban and a suspension for Coach Freeze.

https://olemiss.rivals.com/news/mccready-10-weekend-thoughts-presented-by-harry-alexander-66

 

[patdog]

They're going to accept a lot more than that. It's not like they have a choice. They can talk all they want about how they're going to sue the NCAA over this, but I suspect Greg Sankey would put a stop to that real quickly if they even tried to go down that path. Although it would be fun if he didn't.

 

[Xenomorph]

That's about right.. For the first NOA. The second one is the double tap.

 

[aTotal360]

They've hired a PI to turn the tables on Sankey!1!!11

 

[engie]

http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/matrix.pdf

If they had 2, maybe 3, level 1's -- I imagine McCready would be close. I'm counting 15, but I'm not a great counter*

 

[aTotal360]

^^^OM FANS, DON'T CLICK THAT LINK^^^. Holy sheet they're screwed.

 

[patdog]

So, if you assume all Level 1 violations are at the border of mitigated and standard (a fairly generous assumption just based on the number of Level 1 violations there are) and ignore the level 2 & 3 violations, that gets you to 12.5% * 25 scholarships * 15 Level 1 violations = 47 scholarships lost.

 

[coach66]

USC got 30 schollies and they didn't have that many Level 1's did they?

nm

 

[TBone.sixpack]

Yawn.

 

[Xenomorph]

^^ Hey, Bears... This is the floor. The ceiling hovers around 65. Have fun!

 

[BlueRidgeMtns]

"call me if she rolls over"

 

[missouridawg]

"The NCAA issued its first Notice of Allegations to Ole Miss in January of 2016."

So, if that statement is true, OM turned over the NOA immediately after receiving it. Months after we'd been talking about it. .

This is not true. They turned it over after the 90 days plus a 30 day extension on the Friday before Memorial Day. I read it in the car on the way home to Missouri from the Memphis airport. It was a pleasant gift upon arrival in the Memphis airport.

 

[engie]

And a 15 year bowl ban*

IF the NCAA follows their own guidelines, even remotely, what they hand down will be as bad or worse than a death penalty.

I think OM is right on one thing. The NCAA is going to reduce or throw out a bunch of the charges so they can "follow" their own brand new matrix and hammer them -- but not hit them with something that quite literally would have them kicked out of the SEC. If they find them guilty on 15 level 1s and follow their own newly laid out penalty structure, OM couldn't play in the postseason for the entire remainder of the SEC TV contracts. And if they find them guilty of all this stuff and don't hit them that hard -- the new structure has no teeth and the wild wild west is upon them. A bunch of the stuff in the NOA would CERTAINLY qualify as Level 1 aggravated too, I'd suspect, since the acts were committed while already under known investigation.

Only option for the NCAA is to only find them guilty on only a small portion of it IMO. Then hammer them 15-20% worse than USC for that small portion and call it a day.

 

[engie]

I think USC had about 4 penalties that would classify as level 1 under the current structure...

AND the penalty structure has gotten much tougher since that case went before the COI...

 

[patdog]

I've been saying for months now that UM won't get the death penalty, but they might wish they had.

 

[Drebin]

And a 15 year bowl ban*

IF the NCAA follows their own guidelines, even remotely, what they hand down will be as bad or worse than a death penalty.

I think OM is right on one thing. The NCAA is going to reduce or throw out a bunch of the charges so they can "follow" their own brand new matrix and hammer them -- but not hit them with something that quite literally would have them kicked out of the SEC. If they find them guilty on 15 level 1s and follow their own newly laid out penalty structure, OM couldn't play in the postseason for the entire remainder of the SEC TV contracts. And if they find them guilty of all this stuff and don't hit them that hard -- the new structure has no teeth and the wild wild west is upon them. A bunch of the stuff in the NOA would CERTAINLY qualify as Level 1 aggravated too, I'd suspect, since the acts were committed while already under known investigation.

Only option for the NCAA is to only find them guilty on only a small portion of it IMO. Then hammer them 15-20% worse than USC for that small portion and call it a day.

I don't care what parts they rule as guilty and what parts they throw out. I want that LOIC charge to stick. That is the key piece to all of this....the "culture of non-compliance" that existed.

40 scholarships over 4 years plus a 2 year bowl ban would absolutely destroy their program. USC got 30 over 3 and only had 45 scholarship players at their bowl game last year as a result.

I think the 40/4 range is right about where things should be.

 

[aTotal360]

Imagine half your team not being scholarship players...

 

[missouridawg]

I don't care what parts they rule as guilty and what parts they throw out. I want that LOIC charge to stick. That is the key piece to all of this....the "culture of non-compliance" that existed.

40 scholarships over 4 years plus a 2 year bowl ban would absolutely destroy their program. USC got 30 over 3 and only had 45 scholarship players at their bowl game last year as a result.

I think the 40/4 range is right about where things should be.

I think the Bowl ban might be longer than 2 years. If USCw got 2 years and 30/3, OM has way more penalties than that, inclusive of the u covering of a culture involving the coaching staff in this ****... then 40/4 and 2 years would be light, if precedence tells us anything.

Then, you've got to look at their penalty matrix.... and just shrug your shoulders. It really seems like it could be worse than anyone expected if they follow the matrix.

 

[patdog]

The LOIC and head coach responsibility charges are absolutely going to stick. I think you're about right on the other penalties. 40-45 scholarships and a 2-3 year bowl ban. That's a little below what the matrix calls for, but I think that's about the max you can penalize a school without going ahead and giving them a death penalty, and they're not going to give them the death penalty.

 

[aTotal360]

Need Bucky photoshopped onto Neo.

 

[thatsbaseball]

There will be some well paid walk-ons **

 

[Xenomorph]

This is exactly right... Only 3 options remain for the NCAA.

1. The NCAA does not penalize them for 15 level 1's and thereby admits their investigation was hogwash.

2. The NCAA finds them guilty of 15 level 1's but can't stand the thought of following the penalty matrix in this case and thereby admits cheating is worth it.

3. The NCAA says.. Well we put it in writing what we said would happen and gives them the modern death penalty to protect their business model and the Bears vie for a bowl again sometime around 2027.

 

[bulldognation]

And behold! I looked to the heavens and there stood the NCAA holding the sacred NOA tablets. And they decreed that there should be great angst and woe unto the Oxfordites. So great that generations to come would only speak of it in whispers and in hidden places. And they witnessed the false prophets in the streets and the message boards crying "Foul! Everyone doth cheat! Especially thy favored son, Alabama!" But the NCAA heard it not, for they would not be deceived. And there was darkness on the face of the Oxfordites, for they were without understanding.