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treetiger

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If Clemson has any WOKE professors then they need to be gone. Here is the 1980's interview form the high level KGB that defected to America, and the Marxist/Communist plan to destroy this Republic and its Constitution. Part of the plan was to take over the Teacher's Union, which resulted in Marxist professors teaching that Marxism and Communism was the way, and create religious and racial discord...

 
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rayan07

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there is nothing funny about any of it...you seem to be defending them which is disgusting.
It is actually funny to see people grasping at straws and hilariously compare it to George Floyd when pillars of the right post stuff like this. Guess what, they still have a job because the right rides her dick. The reality is, Melvin Earl didnt say anything offensive, hes just not reacting how you want him to. And why would he?


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cutiger4010

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The thing is...IPTAY has zero to do with it. It is a completely different entity and completely separate but I can see and even understand if some want to stop with giving to the university.

This is a big deal
I understand and agree but I keep seeing people on social media lumping athletic donations into the boycott. Im just wondering if social media outrage will actually become reality
 

RUBDROC

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A lot to do about nothing. The professor or whomever should know better. Find them something else to do..move on.
 
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nmerritt11

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It is actually funny to see people grasping at straws and hilariously compare it to George Floyd when pillars of the right post stuff like this. Guess what, they still have a job because the right rides her dick. The reality is, Melvin Early didnt say anything offensive, hes just not reacting how you want him to. And why would he?


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But it was not just one professor dude...it was multiple and again nothing funny about it but glad to see you are OK with it.
 

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It is actually funny to see people grasping at straws and hilariously compare it to George Floyd when pillars of the right post stuff like this. Guess what, they still have a job because the right rides her dick. The reality is, Melvin Early didnt say anything offensive, hes just not reacting how you want him to. And why would he?


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She isn’t a public university employee, she’s a “journalist” and is self employed. That’s why she can’t get fired
 
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cutiger4010

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It is actually funny to see people grasping at straws and hilariously compare it to George Floyd when pillars of the right post stuff like this. Guess what, they still have a job because the right rides her dick. The reality is, Melvin Earl didnt say anything offensive, hes just not reacting how you want him to. And why would he?


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Anything Laura loomer says should be thrown into the dumpster. She is looney
 
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wkgriffin

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the professor suggested others act out as Mangioni or Charlie Kirk's shooter did. Literally. That's not hate speech that an attempting to inspire younger people to murder someone. Clemson needs to not only fire that individual but find others that speak that way and fire them. Period. Otherwise it should lose funding.
Agree if they are not fired and Clemson does not take a stronger stance then all funding should stop going to the university and all donations should stop. Some things are more important and Clemson should stand for what’s right.
 
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nmerritt11

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She isn’t a public university employee, she’s a “journalist” and is self employed. That’s why she can’t get fired

people that support this type of crap will reach for anything they can to defend their stance...they are basically saying that they are glad it happened without actually saying they are glad it happened
 
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Notlately

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the Fact that someone in a position of authority would be so broken spiritually and brazen mentally that they would publicly spew this venom has more than earned their release.
 

rayan07

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She isn’t a public university employee, she’s a “journalist” and is self employed. That’s why she can’t get fired
Never said she was. I said shes employed because people on the right ride her dick which keeps her in business.

Public university employees are allowed to have opinions, there is a structure in place at CU to enforce their views. The BoT and President haven't moved on these professors because they also believe this.

We all know where this ends, the party of snowflakes will have the professors fired because they cant handle differing opinions and cant cope with the fact that CK was in fact, not a saint and no one owes him any sort of positive will now that he's gone.
 

PawJourney

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Thankfully X isn’t real life
Unfortunately, social media is real life to some and social media has successfully radicalized people (i.e., suicide bombers aligned to Al Quida) so why not people like Tyler Robinson? If he continously hears that Republicans are fascist and Hitlers, why not kill Baby Hitler (Charlie Kirk) to save the world?

Free speech is a precious right but there is a limit to it. Celebrating a killer for taking out a political opponent could lead to copycats. Having that kind of rhetoric from a professor who is shaping the lives of young people is reprehensible on all levels whether it crosses the constitutional line of limitation. Rather than celebrating Charlie Kirks' death, why wouldn't the professor use his/her platform to debate the merits of the issue? It is intellectually lazy to use flamatory labels like fascism to incite hatred when you cannot make an argument on its merits for your views. Debate of ideas should be encouraged, particularly in college.

One of my sons was part of Turning Point USA @ Ohio State. He said he had to be careful in some classes or his grades would be impacted. His brothers (both liberal) agreed he should do that given their experiences at Clemson and Indiana University. This was in the 2016-2020 years, but it's probably worse now. I never found that acceptable because I encourage debate and exchange of ideas in a household that feels like a rainbow of political positions. That's how my college experience was and I'm sad society changed.

Google Summary.
The Supreme Court limits prosecution for true threats by requiring that the prosecution prove the defendant acted with at least recklessness regarding whether their words would be taken as a serious expression of intent to cause harm. A true threat is a serious expression conveying an intent to commit unlawful violence, but the First Amendment protects speech that isn't a genuine threat or lacks the required mental state, even if it's offensive.
Elements of a True Threat
For a statement to be considered a true threat and lose First Amendment protection, it generally must meet two criteria:
Serious Expression of Intent: The statement or act must be a serious expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful violence. It cannot be something said in jest or in an attempt to be idle.
Mental State: The prosecution must show that the speaker acted with at least recklessness in creating a statement that would be interpreted by a reasonable person as a serious expression of intent to commit violence.
Key Considerations
Recklessness
: The Supreme Court's ruling in Counterman v. Colorado established that a defendant's subjective awareness of the potential danger of their words, or a reckless disregard for that danger, is necessary for a true threat prosecution.
Reasonable Person Standard
: While the speaker must have a specific mental state, the assessment of whether the statement is a true threat is often based on how a reasonable person would interpret the statement in its context.
First Amendment Protection
: The First Amendment generally protects free speech, but it does not protect speech that falls into certain narrow categories, including true threats.
Context Matters
: The specific context and circumstances surrounding the communication are crucial in determining whether it constitutes a true threat.
 
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Never said she was. I said shes employed because people on the right ride her dick which keeps her in business.

Public university employees are allowed to have opinions, there is a structure in place at CU to enforce their views. The BoT and President haven't moved on these professors because they also believe this.

We all know where this ends, the party of snowflakes will have the professors fired because they cant handle differing opinions and cant cope with the fact that CK was in fact, not a saint and no one owes him any sort of positive will now that he's gone.

suggesting murder is not a difference of opinion *** clown. and adults that suggest murder should not be any where near children/young adults. so go f yourself.
 
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Clemblack

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Charlie Kirk was right. American universities have become liberal cess pools. If you didn't believe that before, then look at Clemson University as a clear example of it. If Clemson takes this stance, then universities collectively are a lost cause. The brain rot has reached critical mass.
 

tigergray

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Clemson University is getting hammered on X for its stance on the professor's that said vicious things about the assassination of Charley. Now state legislatures are wanting to defund Clemson's state funds.
If they don’t do anything about it, they need to be defunded
 

yoshi121374

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Does anyone's opinions change now that it's becoming clear the killer was further a right White Supremacist than Kirk?

Anyone want to walk back comments about the left or the libs?

We have lots of folks that need to stop making political Hay off of tragedies
 
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Freedom of speech is critical in our society, but is most important in our universities. You must allow for a diversity of thought in order to foster an environment of learning.

I don’t agree with the professors who were saying incendiary things about Israel, but we must allow all speech no matter how much we disagree with it.
 
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Clemblack

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Freedom of speech is critical in our society, but is most important in our universities. You must allow for a diversity of thought in order to foster an environment of learning.

I don’t agree with the professors who were saying incendiary things about Israel, but we must allow all speech no matter how much we disagree with it.


what if he said "I hate all jews?" or "black people should be enslaved?"


answer my questions, lib.
 

XTIGERK

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The first amendment protects people from being thrown in jail by their government. It doesn’t mean there aren’t consequences for what you say. Everyone of you who keeps saying we need to protect free speech have no clue what you’re talking about. It’s supposed to protect you from being shot in neck. Not keeping your job.
 

tigergray

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Does anyone's opinions change now that it's becoming clear the killer was further a right White Supremacist than Kirk?

Anyone want to walk back comments about the left or the libs?

We have lots of folks that need to stop making political Hay off of tragedies
You are a fool he’s not far right he’s another leftist transgender loving loon. He called Charlie a damn fascist. Do you think that’s somebody on the fight. That’s right out of the MSNBC hand book.
 

yoshi121374

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You are a fool he’s not far right he’s another leftist transgender loving loon. He called Charlie a damn fascist. Do you think that’s somebody on the fight. That’s right out of the MSNBC hand book.

You probably need to do some reading real quick.... Nothing trans about this kid. He was completely into the Far Right Nick Fuentes Groypers.
 

tigres88

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How about read these above and kiss my *** yoshi
LOL you posted a random dude (who is probably a bot) on Facebook with the EXACT narrative that Fox News/MAGA social media has moved to- that this kid got radicalized at the university he went to for one semester. LOL. You are so wrapped up in delusion and spin by people in power pulling strings and levers that you don't even have an original thought anymore.
 
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yoshi121374

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How about read these above and kiss my *** yoshi

Yeah .. those are Facebook posts by some random person... Do you have any links?

I am fairly certain that what you just shared has been proven to be false and has been recanted.
 

tigergray

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Yeah .. those are Facebook posts by some random person... Do you have any links?

I am fairly certain that what you just shared has been proven to be false and has been recanted.
You have a hard time admitting when you’ve been proven wrong don’t you. Sick democrat socialist..Go lick your wounds or what ever your kind licks