Giles at U19

[SilentsAreGolden]

Tommy does have an inside scoop.

Then he should say so. Anybody could say anything with no source. What is the value in that?

 

[bucsrule8872]

In that long stretch between Coach K's first two titles and the next, did he have the best players every year? Did he have the number one recruiting class every year?

In the nearly two decades between titles for Pitino, did he have the best players in the country every year? Did he have top 3 recruiting classes every year in between?

The point Im making is everyone realizes that championships are damn hard to win. SVP used to always say "I dare say there is anything harder than winning 6 games in march and april". And he is right. The problem with your example of Coach K and Pitino and the time in between their titles is that they didn't have the best players every year. Coach Cal has had top 3 recruiting classes and the best players virtually every year. So what should the expectation be?

IF those coach's you named had the best players every year do you think people would say "geez why didn't Pitino win anymore titles? He had the best players." I do. But because people know what he had to work with they don't question it.

Coach Cal needs another title because great players are piling up. #1 recruiting classes are piling up. Lottery picks are piling up. Number one over all picks are piling up. The only thing that isn't piling up is titles. And eventually you have to say, "The guy has gotten to a lot of final fours with that talent, but he hasn't brought home the titles". What is the expectation when every year you have the best players?

True.

But on the flip side, players stayed in college longer.

It's hard to sign five top 20 players every year when you return three or four starters every year.

So, shouldn't Pitino and K have more titles since they got the best players and they stayed 3-4 years?

 

[CUT-NETS]

True.

But on the flip side, players stayed in college longer.

It's hard to sign five top 20 players every year when you return three or four starters every year.

So, shouldn't Pitino and K have more titles since they got the best players and they stayed 3-4 years?

But see thats my point; I don't think they were getting the best players during those years like Cal is getting the best players every year now.

But you make a good point. If all of Cal's recruits stayed minimum 2 years he would probably have 5 titles. I know AD gets another title as a sophomore.

 

[bucsrule8872]

But see thats my point; I don't think they were getting the best players during those years like Cal is getting the best players every year now.

But you make a good point. If all of Cal's recruits stayed minimum 2 years he would probably have 5 titles. I know AD gets another title as a sophomore.

Pitino and K got the best players just like Cal, just not every year because they stayed 3-4 years.

K had arguably the best talent in 98 and 99 and failed to win the title. In 98 Brand, Battier, and company lost to Tubby's Cats led by 3 and 4-star players like Sheppard, Padgett, Mohammad, and Evans

It takes talent and a lot of luck. Experience helps and you have to avoid injuries. Pitino lost in 97 because of the Anderson injury.

There are just too many variables. It's hard to win it all.

Even almighty K has as many early round losses as titles in the last decade.

 

[Lonesome Hippopotamus]

Does he want to be the number 1 pick inthe draft? If so, come to UK baby.