Getting rid of Kickoffs
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The new "Alliance" football league is supposed to do away with kickoffs. If a trailing team wants to "onside kick", they get the ball at their own 35 facing 4th and 10.
Even if they don't go through with it, their attempts to reduce the number of runbacks are eventually going to result in them being effectively removed (touchbacks every time). They're probably going to get more heavy-handed on that front since their last experiment, moving touchbacks to the 25, backfired and resulted in more runbacks, not less. That might be preferable though since it would keep onside kicks with somewhat of an element of surprise in play.
I would be in favor of limiting kickoffs. Start each half with a kickoff. Kickoff after a score inside two minutes to go in the half. In between, just give the other team the ball on the 20 or 25 after each score. You could adjust the specifics, but there's no need for 12 kickoffs in a game.
I would disagree to an extent. MLB doesn't really have that much risk and they get paid a boatload more than NFL guys. The main reason they get paid a ton is because a ton of people pay to watch them. Arena football players get paid jack squat and what they do is just as dangerous as the NFL players.
That is an absolutely horrible rule. It is far easier to convert a 4th and 10 than it is to convert an onside kick. Would completely change the game and heavily skew results in favor of high powered offenses.
Just think, Bama could probably play an entire game against MTSU, Akron, etc. with their defense never even having to take the field.
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I think it's a mistake to get rid of kickoffs.
KO returns are a wild card in football games that can allow a less-skilled/athletic team to win a game with a great play. I'd hate to see those removed.
Do punt returns fall under this as well?
True, but who cares about the alliance football league. If it is entertaining for us to watch that is all that matters.
It's actually the opposite. Special teams give higher talented teams with more depth another edge. If you are looking at this through the lens of Mississippi State or parity in general, getting rid of the return game can only be good. Of course it cuts both ways, I've seen us use special teams to defeat a number of G5 schools.
If they change the rules too much ... and not having a kickoff is probably going too far ... I think attendenance will plummet. People go to see hard knocks (not necessarly injuries) just like to to a NASCAR race to see the exciting wrecks.
That's a good point. I was thinking more along the lines of having one really special player returning kicks along with 10 decent to good players blocking for him. Teams like Bama would still have an edge because they are so deep, but in general it can make a large difference in the outcome of a game. Not necessarily even in TDs scored but just field position advantage.
Well, if they are going to do this then......
Go ahead and revamp other rules too.
Primarily, change the rule to 5 minute quarters (or shorter) and clock stops after every play. That would largely eliminate running out the clock and the need for most onside kicks. When you think about it, it does not make much sense for a game where the vast majority of the play clock is spent not playing the game.
Go ahead and revamp other rules too.
Primarily, change the rule to 5 minute quarters (or shorter) and clock stops after every play. That would largely eliminate running out the clock and the need for most onside kicks. When you think about it, it does not make much sense for a game where the vast majority of the play clock is spent not playing the game.
Why don’t they just put a flag on each hip and call it a day. They’ve been doing everything possible to run off fans for several years now, anyway.
How did I know that that was going to be put together by SBNation ie Vox. Inventing problems because STATS.
The only true point he has is player safety. Taking away the kickoff would take away a lot of excitement from the game.
It's the concern troll/left leaning side that is going to run me off. I'm already done with the NFL. If they start paying college players I'll be done with that too
All the while, baseball teams can't even give their teams full rides
Well, I can tell you right off the bat that I’m not going to give a **** about it regardless of the kickoff rules. But a dumb rule is a dumb rule. And entertainment value should be 2nd to actually changing the balance of the game and affecting results on the field. This is the same thing as if the American League decided they were going to add a 2nd DH to hit for the position player of their choice. It’s just wrong.
It's not the left or the media. It's the legal side of it. The NFL has to install rules and regulations to satiate the all the litigious entities involved. They are constantly under a barrage of lawsuits that involve player health. They have to "do something".
As the video I posted proves, kickoffs have little effect on scoring, and when they do, it's almost always due to luck.
I would say just do it like high school football. Any kickoff into the end zone is an automatic touchback. That is a logical first step to reduce the number of returns. Then go from there as far as other potential options if results aren’t improved.
As far as the reducing the overall overall number of kickoffs, good luck with that, especially at the NFL level. Networks and the league aren’t going to want to give up the ad revenue from the “Score-Commercial Break-Kickoff-Commercial Break-1st and 10” pattern that they have already established. You get rid of kickoffs, you are taking one commercial break off every scoring play in the game. Those breaks aren’t going away. They will add designated TV timeouts (like basketball), or make each existing break longer in order to make up for it. Not that I agree with any of that, but it’s just reality.
You cannot say that it has "little effect" if it's not compared with other plays. He didn't statistically break down punt returns that I saw
Of course you're correct but all the fake "old school" guys will ignore it. Kickoffs in the NFL have very little to do with scoring and result in a touchback 60% of the time.
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