Getting no respect from ESPN

xWVU2010x

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OK, let's put it this way.

Give any team this schedule over its last 9 games:

Texas Tech W
Texas W (by 18)
@Kansas W (by 49)
Iowa State W (by 24)
@Kansas State L (by 1, thought by many to be Coach Snyder's finale)
@* Arizona State W ('neutral' site in the opponent's city)
Missouri W (by 15)
Youngstown State W
(N) BYU W

That is 8-1, one play from 9-0...

Loser by 18 to WVU Texas was anointed for playoff contention after having beating now 1-3 Notre Dame.

Not one single AP vote last week for WVU.

It is OK for Clemson to beat Troy by 6...



Umm...so the preseason rankings every year - which play a large part in national perception and a team's chances to get its due - are based ENTIRELY on how many stars their recruits have? Are the recruiting rankings of the last 4-5 years averaged, with allowances for attrition, under-performance and overachievement? Oh...that would require looking at LAST year...and earlier years...and history...and pedigree...and media value....

Q. Why are there rankings before October?

A. To sell a bill of goods to the blueblood fans and give their schools a leg up on the undesired riffraff.

Look at Texas. That is all you need to know WVU beat them by 18 and has won 8 of 9. Texas required OT to beat a 1-3 team...lost to a 2-2 team. Anything else? Oh, they have tradition and a network.

But we are only looking at THIS season.

"Please, sir...may I have another?" WHACK!!! (Hapless, unworthy, self-loathing WVU fan)

Fact - we were 8-5 last season. 8-5 teams rarely end the season ranked. 8-5 teams unless are returning a ton do not start the next season ranked. We lost a ton of NFL talent, and we do not traditionally reload that quickly, so why should we have been ranked?

Fact - the murderer's row of opponents you love to highlight were a combined 27-48 last year. The FBS ones we played this year are a combined 3-5 so far, of those 3 wins, Missouri beat Eastern Michigan and an FCS team. Eastern Michigan might as well be an FCS team, and the FCS team Missouri destroyed is one of the worst FCS teams you can schedule. There is a decent chance Missouri does not win a conference game this year, and its tough to peg where BYU will end up as they have played a tough schedule but 1-3 is never impressive regardless of schedule.

Fact - we started 3-0 last year blew the Sun Belt Champ and Maryland's doors off and proceeded to end the season a very average 8-5 and justifiably unranked.

Like it or not we are where we should be and until we knock off a big opponent, we dont deserve "hype". If we beat KSU we should then be ranked but we should not get any play from the national media who's job is to focus on contenders. If we beat KSU, a big time IF considering DH's track record against Snyder, it still only shows that we can handle our business, it does not vault us into the national title race, atleast not in the eye's of the media. Obviously my hope and our fanbase's hope is that we somehow end up in the playoff, but you cant expect that out of this team until they start knocking off team's with some teeth. It is also better for this team's mental state if they stay under the radar. How many times has WVU laid an egg after a huge win? Lets keep the team humble and not start buying tickets to the playoff games based off of wins against mediocre competition.

If you dont like preseason rankings, you're watching the wrong sport. College football is the biggest clownshow of sports in the entire world in terms of how it is run. The media is a player in who advances to the title, most teams do not even control their own destiny starting from game 1, but the rankings draw ratings and interest, so they will stay. Dont like it, dont watch it.
 

Darth_VadEER

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I think the off week makes a difference. If we are 4-0 after this week, I think we'd be ranked.

What difference does it make? They don't mean much right now. We've beat the teams we've playe (can't do anymore than that), but no eye catching wins.
 

HurdyGurdyEer

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Uh ..... the media who actually cover the league picked us to finish 7th in the league in their pre-season poll.

But I still can't understand why each year ESPN won't just tell everyone else to forget about the season because WVU will run the table all the way to the National Championship.

Honestly .... it really takes about 3/5 of the season to be played before the polls really begin to sort themselves out. For example let's say we were ranked this week at 22. Lose the next two and it won't have mattered one bit. Win the next two and we'll probably be inside the Top 20, which would probably be the same place we would be if we were at 22 this week.
 

steeleer

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Sep 19, 2005
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We haven't played like a ranked team. Very good (not even great) teams close out a game like the one we had against BYU.

Winning against someone who has shook us down for our lunch money for 4 years (KSU) would be a huge event for our rankings and our morale going into league play.
 

torontoeers

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I think the off week makes a difference. If we are 4-0 after this week, I think we'd be ranked.

What difference does it make? They don't mean much right now. We've beat the teams we've playe (can't do anymore than that), but no eye catching wins.
This right here ...That off week does factor in a bit imo...

Just need a win this weekend and will raise a few eyebrows...
 

TruWVblu

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I'm not saying other teams are not overrated and I agree that preseason polls are unfair, but I believe we still have work to do to before we can expect any real consideration for the top 25. This week will tell us a lot and my guess a lot of pollsters are awaiting the outcome before giving us anything.

..not talking about being 'in the conversation' as a 2016 power program or playoff contender... it is about WVU -- 2 points shy of an 8-game winning streak -- not getting a SINGLE AP vote last week in comparison to the teams that are or have been ranked OR are unranked but DID get a vote.

Meanwhile, Georgia edged Mizzou, Texas does nothing....and LOOKEE!
 

WVU-Brand

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College Gameday just covered the B12 slate of games for today, 10/1, and not a single mention of the Mountaineers. Apparently the team is still in the Big East for ESPN.
 

Beechurst

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College Gameday just covered the B12 slate of games for today, 10/1, and not a single mention of the Mountaineers. Apparently the team is still in the Big East for ESPN.


Wow...willing to diss kindly old wizard Snyder and KState just to stick it to WVU...now that is some hate!