Getsy gone
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Seen it coming. Moorhead only has Breiner left of the coaches he had a history with on offense. Johnson and Breiner the only ones left. Johnson going anywhere? I’m not complaining because the offense was God awful this year, but going in the wrong direction if Moorhead is trying to build a system as some would argue he is trying to do. Kind of hard to do that if his system guys are abandoning ship.
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At least other teams want Moorhead’s buddies. You couldn’t pay teams to take Knox, Gonzalez, and Hevesy.
Maybe I’m just not really in a football mood anymore but I’m not understanding the total meltdown on other boards over these assistants leaving. Getsy wasn’t here long enough to make any kind of impression. Huff seemed like a good recruiter but he also wasn’t here long enough to give us much indication that his position group was improved or not.
If it were Shoop then that would be one thing. But we’re losing assistants from an offense that was extremely inconsistent. I hardly consider either of them irreplaceable, nor do I think them leaving is any kind of writing on the wall about Moorhead. It’s simply guys taking better jobs at other places. It has happened here every year for as long as I can remember.
If it were Shoop then that would be one thing. But we’re losing assistants from an offense that was extremely inconsistent. I hardly consider either of them irreplaceable, nor do I think them leaving is any kind of writing on the wall about Moorhead. It’s simply guys taking better jobs at other places. It has happened here every year for as long as I can remember.
It’s really the indicication of not being able sustain consistency, develop, and build. We are supposed to get better by building on his system. Going to be hard to install if the coaches are having to learn it again too. Three new coaches at least on offense. Granted they were not that great on offense this year, but everyone keeps saying Moorhead needs time to build it and they should be better next year from having twos years of the offense. Just doesn’t look promising. I’m he makes great hires and the offense comes a live next year then that helps things and gets it on the right track. Just doesn’t look good so far.
When our coaches are getting hired away by the NFL and Alabama, and getting HC gigs, I think that's a pretty good sign that you're doing something right. I mean, if you are talking about lack of continuity in coordinators, Alabama has to be #1 over the last few years. Coach 1-2 years at Bama, get a D1 head coaching job.
On the other hand, and this has been my beef the whole time, Moorhead said that he took a lower salary so that we could hire the best assistants in the country and pay them like it. Well, we haven't really done either one. None of our assistant coach hires from this past season were big-name hires, outside of maybe Shoop, and we are obviously not paying them enough for them to stick around.
On the other hand, and this has been my beef the whole time, Moorhead said that he took a lower salary so that we could hire the best assistants in the country and pay them like it. Well, we haven't really done either one. None of our assistant coach hires from this past season were big-name hires, outside of maybe Shoop, and we are obviously not paying them enough for them to stick around.
I think you might be overcomplicating it a bit. Hud had never coached with Moorhead before. Getsy’s only experience with him was as a GA ten years ago. Huff was a Moorhead guy but everyone knew he wouldn’t be here long. Probably can say the same for the other two.
Let’s not act like we’re the first program to have coaches leave. Heck, Alabama lost a ton of coaches this offseason. People are mad at Moorhead about how the season went, and that’s fine, but to say this is another example of how he’s struggling as a coach right now is silly. Assistants leave places all the time. Those guys would’ve left even if this season had met expectations. People are just frustrated with the season and trying to make this an extension of that, which I don’t really think it is.
Understand that coaches leave. understand that Hud didn't coach with him before. I don't think that was his hire. He was told to hire Hud because of recruiting in MS and surrounding states. We were sold Getsy because of his background with Moorhead and being an NFL coach to help build this scheme that focuses on shots down field and better receivers. He brought in Huff to help install the success of the offense they had at Penn State with Barkley and McSorley. We didn't see that this year, but everyone blamed that on Nick. So now with Nick gone, they would have been more free to install that type of offense with a new qb and more reliance on Hill and Gibson. That's why I think it's not as good with Huff not returning.
I don't like the comparison to Alabama. We aren't Alabama. Nick Saban isn't our head coach. Saban makes up a lot for new coordinators and assistants. I believe the assistants he had this year greatly affected the last game of the year for them. All those coaches will tell you losing coaches is frustrating and a lot harder to maintain continuity. Especially if you are new to a program and trying to install a system. Bama also gets 4 and 5 stars at every position and has the one of the largest athletic budgets. That makes up for a lot of things. So that comparison doesn't really work.
I don't like the comparison to Alabama. We aren't Alabama. Nick Saban isn't our head coach. Saban makes up a lot for new coordinators and assistants. I believe the assistants he had this year greatly affected the last game of the year for them. All those coaches will tell you losing coaches is frustrating and a lot harder to maintain continuity. Especially if you are new to a program and trying to install a system. Bama also gets 4 and 5 stars at every position and has the one of the largest athletic budgets. That makes up for a lot of things. So that comparison doesn't really work.
Abandoning ship my ***! Every one of the coaches that have left, left for better jobs than they had at MSU. 3 have gone to the damn NFL, Getsy because FREAKING AARON RODGERS WANTED HIM!, one to be a head coach, and one to coach under Saban. Get off the abandoning ship ********. That’s a total idiotic take.
well you know that's like your opinion man. you can call it an idiotic take all you want. of course most people don't leave jobs for lesser ones unless they get fired or asked to resign. it seems more to me rather than stick around and be apart of an offense that was obviously going nowhere, they decided to go to something different before those jobs were gone. They got those jobs based on reputations they got before they were at MSU. Huff got offered a job at Bama because of his recruiting and job he did with Barkley. He wasn't an MSU log enough to prove anything. Getsy. He worked with the Packers before. he fit more with what they wanted to go back to doing. You could tell in his press conference this year he was annoyed at the offense and people questioning how bad it was. Go back to NFL, he doesn't have to worry about recruiting or developing receivers. Hud was a head coach before he came back. I'm sure Hud came back because he needed a stop gap after being fired from ULL. Moorhead was probably told to hire him from someone inside the department. It was a disservice that Hud wasn't even given the opportunity to be OC. Breiner hasn't left because where is he going to go? back to FCS? The point i'm making is that when people are claiming it's going to take time to install the offense, it's going to be really hard to do that if the offensive coaching staff is revolving door. Tells me they don't think MSU and the Moorhead offense can get them to where they want in their career. And all this Bama doesn't examples don't work for MSU who doesn't recruit as high as Bama nor have the purse strings. all that while trying to install a new system with a rookie going into sophomore year p5 head coach. This whole dang thing is an experiment. Hell, we are very fortunate to hang on to the defensive staff. At least that's a welcomed change that defensive staff wants to stick around. Maybe the defense will put up more points this year and help the offense out.
I am leaning towards Moorhead ending up as a failure as a coach here, but these coaches are leaving for better jobs. This is not a negative reflection on Moorhead.
https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/...quarterbacks-coach-mississippi-state-nfl-2019
Interesting paragraph toward the bottom of the article re possible reason for leaving
Interesting paragraph toward the bottom of the article re possible reason for leaving
Not sure why he came back to college to spend one year and then go right back to an NFL position job at the same team? Maybe he decided that college wasn't for him.
That article is incredibly vague and seems to be fishing. "Some dont like recruiting, some leave for more money... there were issues." Informative! Yeah he went down in title, but maybe he didnt like recruiting and/or maybe it was more money. I dont see the issue with that. I've taken a role in my company before that I didnt enjoy and I took a different role after a year. Partly because I had to "check that box" for future plans but i digress. I just dont see this as alarm bells, rats & ships, sky falling.
Yea that article is basically BS. He didn’t take a lesser position with the Packers to come back. Going from WR coach to QB(Rodgers) coach is a step up. And he is back bc Rodgers told the new coach to reach out to Getsy. Getsy left to better his career like any mofo on this message board would have.
And you think he’s making less at Green Bay to go coach a hall of famer. Ok. Mississippi State’s running backs coach and offensive coordinator in name only is a better job than coaching quarterbacks at the Green Bay Packers and Aaron Rodgers. Read that and tell me how absurd that actually sounds.
I didn't say any of that. You said the article was BS bc getsy didn't go to a lesser position. Well he did... Wr coach/OC is a higher position than QB coach. Is it more prestigious? Pay more? I have no idea...