George Floyd footage
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We should not be discussing these actions. GF has been designated the face to be inscribed onto that statue....
Man..this whole story is so bizzare and outcome of this case is going to cause hatred levels to escalate 50,000 times fold. Playing these cases out on nightly news is just wrong. This is such a sad situation in many ways. In those videos it is hard see what other actions those officers could have taken. Already countless people have died, or injured and property in millions of dollars has been destroyed and those numbers are only going to get worse.
After watching both body cams it tells a completely different story than the video that started all of this. He should have never died but I'm not seeing two bad racist cops doing bad things...I see two police officers trying to do their job in a respectful manor.
The only critique I have is that once he calmed down to the point where he was about passed out, they could’ve reduced their posture. But we’re talking like a 2 minute window, maybe less, with people starting to form and cause distractions to the officers.
One thing is certain, there isn’t a racial element to this in anyway. Another false narrative pushed by the racist left. Sad, this is going to have a negative affect, boy who cried wolf type stuff. This is like the 3rd or 4th high profile incident in which is was propagated by a lie.
One thing is certain, there isn’t a racial element to this in anyway. Another false narrative pushed by the racist left. Sad, this is going to have a negative affect, boy who cried wolf type stuff. This is like the 3rd or 4th high profile incident in which is was propagated by a lie.
He was already tripping and yelling mama before they even had him on the ground as well. Hopefully this case will show that everyone needs to realize there is a legal UN concept such as “innocent till proven guilty” and to wait on all the facts to come out.
He definitely was and his autopsy report showed it as well. The media tried to sensationalize it by showing him yelling for his mama while he was on the ground.
As the video now shows, he was acting erratic the whole time while completely not obeying officer commands.
The latter part? I think the restraint on the neck was fine up to the point he stopped resisting. Being on his neck for 8 minutes is irrelevant in the context of his not obeying officer commands and resisting arrest in numerous occurrences.
Fact, he’d be alive if hadn’t attempted to pass counterfeit bills. Fact, he’d be alive if he didn’t resist arrest. Fact, he’d be alive had the officer(s) reduced their posture as the situation de-escalated. And last fact, not a racial issue.
Probably not.... but maybe the National Anthem was being played near by.
Either way the outcome of this trial is going to blow up like Beirut today. Not going to be pretty no matter what the decision.
I thought playing out a case in the media was forbidden. The cops were pronounced guilty from the start based on a subjective review of tapes earlier and just leaked yesterday for people to make their own conclusions. After seeing the tapes it looks like little objectivity was used in making arrest warrants. To many it will look subjective, quick, and a desired outcome maybe without factorial merit. To others just the opposite....tapes seem a long-pull to get a murder conviction for 4 police officers.
After seeing the tapes many will believe the cops used appropriate actions in attempting to get George Floyd under control and in the police car. The kneeling on the neck was wrong and huge mistake by the police officer. I just didn't see any racial intent in watching the leaked video. The same video used to gain arrest warrants. The whole thing seem very peaceful with exception of Mr. Floyd not cooperating with the officers. Even his demeanor seemed calm during ordeal. Starting of BLM protests, rioting, killings, and destruction of millions dollars of property may have been an afterthought with earlier release of those videos.
Instead we are where we are..... at point that most likely will erupt even more. I don't feel good about people's safety going forward. George Floyd has now been anointed a god-like status based on his ethnicity and a sorrowful death that could have been prevented with him showing more willingness to cooperative with police officers arresting him. This a powder keg explosion in waiting.
I know if I was his defense attorney I would be pretty happy that this video will be in evidence.
Who's to blame?
For one, the officer who knelt on his neck. He's probably going to prison if the prosecutor frames this as a manslaughter case. But, he overstated and went with murder. Don't know the specific laws in Minnesota but they will probably either have to reduced or have the case lost because the intent wasn't shown.
The other cops likely get off. There simply isn't enough evidence to prove anything on them from what the badge cams show.
But, ultimately the blame belongs to the lazy media who look for instances to make isolated incidents look like societal norms. Like with the Covington, Ky kids. Like Jussie Smollett. Like Nascar. Like the Mueller Report. Like so many others. The media, who plays on people's emotions to get responses they can then cover and keep the cycle going. Things they never used to do - posting stories without facts or corroboration, outright lying and pandering, outright biases - they do on so many levels.
Shame on them and shame on us for falling for their tactics yet again.
For one, the officer who knelt on his neck. He's probably going to prison if the prosecutor frames this as a manslaughter case. But, he overstated and went with murder. Don't know the specific laws in Minnesota but they will probably either have to reduced or have the case lost because the intent wasn't shown.
The other cops likely get off. There simply isn't enough evidence to prove anything on them from what the badge cams show.
But, ultimately the blame belongs to the lazy media who look for instances to make isolated incidents look like societal norms. Like with the Covington, Ky kids. Like Jussie Smollett. Like Nascar. Like the Mueller Report. Like so many others. The media, who plays on people's emotions to get responses they can then cover and keep the cycle going. Things they never used to do - posting stories without facts or corroboration, outright lying and pandering, outright biases - they do on so many levels.
Shame on them and shame on us for falling for their tactics yet again.
Sure they could have a better defensive posture, but he was resisting. The officer did not put enough pressure down on the neck to impede blood flow long enough nor did it crush/restrict the airway, all of which is corroborated by the original autopsy result (cause of death was not asphyxiation)
If anything, the prosecutor could say that the officer may have exacerbated other health issues he was already having prior to them even handcuffing him. But this video shows that this is not a “proximate cause” case.
I'm not certain those are true statements. I'm not certain he wouldn't have died from OD without police intervention.
To be fair, I'm not looking at it as a race issue. I think 8 minutes with a knee on anyone's neck is too long. I'm also not holding Floyd up as a model citizen. Resisting arrest after being cuffed shouldn't be a death sentence for anyone.
Some folks have made the argument that a lot of these sorts of incidents aren't racist, their sizist. If the perp has size on the cop, the cop is more likely to use more force. While that's logical, I think it has to have limits.