Gavin Griffiths
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We aren't talking about turning a poor shooter into a good one. This scenario is a player who was specifically recruited to be a shooter finding their stroke. Sometimes it just doesn't happen at the college level though. Maybe their range is just limited to a HS 3 point distance. Williams and now Hyatt both were 3 point snipers in HS who shoot below 30% from 3 after 4 years of sample size though
"Old guys" 30+
I knocked down about 6 threes last night at pickup against some young guns and I'm pushing 40 for example
Yup - makes you skeptical of HS numbers too - coaches can pretty much make those up
I love EYBL stats - those are real and 3 pointers are from college distance
Exactly. Gotta get yourself one of these:"Old guys" 30+
I knocked down about 6 threes last night at pickup against some young guns and I'm pushing 40 for example
So true man. It’s really hard to be a good shooter at the highest levels of competiton.
I shot around with Corey Chandler at the barn one day for a half hour just the two of us when I was in school. He missed like 4 shots. I honestly lefts not believing how the hell he would back rim so many jump shots in game.
I used to think this but in hindsight I don’t think it could be further from the truth.
Imo you cannot separate the level of difficulty the highest levels of basketball opponents create when trying to get off shots.
They're both true.
Those old guys who make shots playing in slow-mo wouldn't make a shot if they had to sprint everywhere and get bumped and contested by B1G sized guys.
They also have years, maybe decades of reps on college guys and make more shots even if they were just playing HORSE.
Thanks, good stuff.
If Griffiths DOESN'T get bumped off his line in B1G play on his drives, he's a one-and-done first-round pick.
I’m starting to believe we are underestimating the chances that Griffiths is one and done.
Let’s say he doesn’t get bumped off his line and hits his 3pointers and is projected as a mid 1st round pick.
But Bailey and Harper are solidly committed amongst the other guys in the 24 class. What are the chances he comes back to play and make a real run at RU?
AJ Griffin was the 16th pick - right in the middle - of the 2022 draft
AJ Griffin $3,536,180 $3,712,920 $3,889,920 $5,967,137 = $17,106,157
first two guaranteed, last two are team options
Out of Duke 45% 3 points shooting on 4 attempts a game, 10.4 ppg, 4 rpg, 1 apg
He was the 18th ranked player in the class of 2021 (composite)
Rivals had him at #17 and listed him at 6'6" 190lbs
It may depend on how good a time he has and if the season is fun and he believes in the coaches. He's only young and in college once... why rush things? Sure, injury is possible.. but how likely is that really? If NBA is there for a 1 and done it will be there for 2 and done.
Board going from Paul will start over Gavin to Gavin is one and done, lol
He would have to be an absolute idiot not to declare for the draft if he is projected to be a mid first round pick. John Calipari has basically forced players to go pro if they were expected to be first round picks because he has said he does not want to be responsible for them making that kind career mistake, and will point to Dajuan Wagner, who wanted to come back, but Cal insisted he go pro, and then was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis, and fortunately had the benefits and protections of having signed a multiyear NBA contract.
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Basically no one turns down a 1st round projection (the Duke guy this year is an extreme anomaly).
In 2025 he would be competing with a whole new round of younger freshman for draft spots (for example Bailey and Harper would he in the same draft).
Potentially he drops and gets a worse 1st contract - costing himself millions.
He’d also be delaying a year until he gets his 2nd contract - which is where the real money is at.
Some of us have been repeatedly saying this to mostly deaf ears.
IF (and it is IF) he’s as good as people who have watched him say he is then it’s a possibility.
If he’s on the All Big Ten Freshman Team and competing for Big Ten Freshman POY then he’s potentially a one and done draft prospect.
The funny posts are when people say “Don’t underestimate Gavin. He’s going to be really good immediately. Instant impact. Oh but he’s also not good enough to be near the NBA draft for 3 or 4 years.”
Hilarious the evaluations of Gavin’s athleticism as not elite then video showing him doing elite stuff
This guy is worth a follow. He does great player breakdowns
Great combo of length and athleticism…but it’s not Lebron-level athleticism. GG is VERY polished for a high-school player.
LeBron is a freak athletically. Only a small number of players in NBA history are in his class.
Yes, he's not LeBron. Nobody else is either.
It's more like anyone writing about him goes out of their way to say he's NOT that athletic.
Then you watch him and he pump fakes and no step dunks 2 hands hard which is rare for a 6'7" guy
Or he gets a rebound and dribbles up the court as fast as anyone is running - how many 6'7" guys do that?
Dunks off one foot off either the left or right etc.
This tweet was particularly humorous - "He doesn't have elite athleticism, but he can definitely get up"
It's just a funny thing about what people say about him - I plan on hearing it a ton this season "sneaky athletic", "surprising leaping ability" etc. Must be the goggles.
Lol... even the other kids in the 2003 draft (outside of Melo, Wade, and Bosh) were not Lebron level. Gavin doesn't have to be a generational talent to go in the first round. He's already a very good athlete and great shooter. He needs to add bulk and strength.
Too early to predict going pro after 1 year, but he's got as much talent as any freshman in the big 10.
I’m just thinking that his leg length may hurt his lateral movement a bit and having a stronger upper body would help him shield off guys. His Achilles (hops) talent looks fine and his length makes it look easy for him to get to the rim. I personally hope he’s on the ‘24-‘25 championship contender roster.
From a program standpoint, it would be amazing to have 2-3 kids go in the first round in the 2025 draft, after (hopefully) a deep run in the tournament. That's a lot of talent for Pike to replace.
Could happen. If Cliff returns for his final year, he should be able to do some damage playing against 18-20 year old big men and I could see a deep NCAA run and then several guys drafted for sure.From a program standpoint, it would be amazing to have 2-3 kids go in the first round in the 2025 draft, after (hopefully) a deep run in the tournament. That's a lot of talent for Pike to replace.
