Gators Completely Crap the Bed
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They're quite good. They've got some really good big men. Tyler Davis would be a matchup nightmare for us. They would have trouble guarding us though but same goes for us guarding them. I predict Cal will have to use some zone in that game.
For a stretch in the second half, the foul #'s went from 7 for Duke and 2 for UF to 8 Duke and 9 UF; during that time Duke got away with over-the -backs and charges. That is when and how Duke came back. The fix. I knew it would happen when they interviewed PK and he said his "relationship" with K goes back 25 years. "nuff said.
You hit it on the head .. Gators quit playing aggressively.. bit us in the ***. The clock will always beat you when you try and milk it.
Uh, yeah; like THAT wouldn't throw out a few red flags. But I applaud your attempt to deflect.
It was a 3 point game in the second half when UF went on a 13-0 run. Then duke went on a run...it’s how most games go.
I didn’t come away from that game feeling like Duke was dominated ( mainly because when a Duke player goes for 30+ and 15 rebounds it could be said he dominated UF down low)
As others have said, they slowed it down and didn’t play to their strengths the last 8 minutes. Had they continued to press it who knows? As a coach I imagine it’s a hard call when all you’re trying to do is get to the buzzer
I hate Duke
Possibly, or Wall. Either way, it is about having a player that can get a good shot any time they want it.
I'm generally a lurker but i do have one question......
If the NCAA does favor Duke, if the refs make calls to favor Duke, then how is that K's or Duke's fault? If Duke is the "child favorite" of the NCAA and ESPN etc....then how is that K's or Duke's fault? What can Duke or K do about this alleged "special treatment?"
Many people, including his own peers said that Michael Jordan often played by "his own" rules or what is known as "The Jordan Effect", which states the following:
"When Michael Jordan was in his prime with the Chicago Bulls, opposing coaches gave that name—the Jordan Effect—to what they were certain was an unfair phenomenon taking place night after night. And the media advanced the notion. Their argument was that the referees were so in awe of Michael that they wouldn’t call fouls on him.
As the opposing coaches, their teams, their team’s fans, and the media became increasingly obsessed with the idea, someone actually monitored Michael’s games for a time and “proved” that the Jordan Effect gave the Bulls at least a five-point advantage in every contest. ESPN announcers often pointed out that the officials were quick to call fouls on opponents who were aggressive with Michael, yet they were hesitant to call fouls on him when he was aggressive with opponents. On Sports Center, we were shown video evidence of the many, many times that Michael was allowed an extra step or two without dribbling and not “called” for traveling." 1.) https://www.andyandrews.com/the-jordan-effect/
What should Jordan have done? How was it Jordan's fault that such an effect took place?
If the NCAA does favor Duke, if the refs make calls to favor Duke, then how is that K's or Duke's fault? If Duke is the "child favorite" of the NCAA and ESPN etc....then how is that K's or Duke's fault? What can Duke or K do about this alleged "special treatment?"
Many people, including his own peers said that Michael Jordan often played by "his own" rules or what is known as "The Jordan Effect", which states the following:
"When Michael Jordan was in his prime with the Chicago Bulls, opposing coaches gave that name—the Jordan Effect—to what they were certain was an unfair phenomenon taking place night after night. And the media advanced the notion. Their argument was that the referees were so in awe of Michael that they wouldn’t call fouls on him.
As the opposing coaches, their teams, their team’s fans, and the media became increasingly obsessed with the idea, someone actually monitored Michael’s games for a time and “proved” that the Jordan Effect gave the Bulls at least a five-point advantage in every contest. ESPN announcers often pointed out that the officials were quick to call fouls on opponents who were aggressive with Michael, yet they were hesitant to call fouls on him when he was aggressive with opponents. On Sports Center, we were shown video evidence of the many, many times that Michael was allowed an extra step or two without dribbling and not “called” for traveling." 1.) https://www.andyandrews.com/the-jordan-effect/
What should Jordan have done? How was it Jordan's fault that such an effect took place?
That is more of a statemant than 1 question there lil dookie poo .
UK plays Kansas, UL, UCLA, West Virginia and Virginia Tech in the non conference. Florida plays Duke, Gonzaga, Cincinnati, Baylor and FSU. It seems pretty comparable to me. But that doesn’t fit your agenda does it?
His second and third jump is fast as hell but you can’t tell me he didn’t go over the back a couple times in that game. Lol
Gracie hit a very important 3 that brought Duke to within 2, or put them up by 1, [I can't remember] I think he played the whole 2nd have w/o a rest..Although I don't care for him, he must be in great condition..
im glad you brought it up and at least acknowledge this exists.
First, it’s not Duke’s, K’s or MJ’s fault they are/were given competitive advantages for agendas by certain groups ( groups into making money).
It is however their fault that they are pompous a-holes acting like somehow they have done all the heavy lifting. If I were a betting man I would say that Nike had something to do with that ‘Jordan effect’. Nike took it to another gear as a company with Mj. Networks also benefited from Jordan just like they do Coach K and Duke. Just means more $ for advertising and money is king.
Kentucky gets their share of run on these networks as well so I’m not complaining. I think where most fans developed the hatred of all of the above 3 you mention, is because of that ‘effect’ on the court that in turn screws other teams. You do understand why that would be frustrating, right?
Yes, I absolutely understand why that would be frustrating to the fans of opposing programs. It just seems the "hate" is a bit misplaced. The Duke players and coaches aren't "cheating", when this phenomenon occurs. They have no control over it. Coach K is PAID (a lot of money) by Duke University to win and enhance the brand of Duke University. I mean this is all big business right? You're competing with other schools and it is absolutely cut throat. Why get mad at K for continued involvement in the Olympic teams when he was asked to do so and it's in the best interest of Duke's brand to do so? I don't know any major business nor corporations that "give up advantages" in the interest of fairness and being nice. I mean it's exactly how America and capitalism works. You take advantage of and capitalize off of any advantage you can get as long as it's legal and within the rules.
K could have said a long time ago "yea I'm thrilled to be offered the Olympics job but it's an unfair advantage so I'm going to turn it down" so now maybe K doesn't get the recruits that brought in the 2015 National Title? You do that for what? So other programs and fans "respect" you more? That seems naive to me, and borderline irresponsible IMO. Nike didn't get to being Nike by being nice and considerate. The outrage at Duke, K and the kids just seems like faux outrage at the heart of it.
Flopping? Ok I get that. I don't like it and want it gone and am ashamed when we do it. Big difference between selling an actual foul as opposed to selling a foul that never occurred. Yes, hate on that.
But I will never understand hating on Duke for playing to it's image and perception, doing the legal things it takes to increase the value of the brand, and doing what EVERY program at this level is aspiring to do and that's win.
K takes advantage of the help. It is called being an accomplice. Every team backs off Bagley due to academics except Duke. The NCAA and Duke make it happen. It is a joke and it is on the rest of college basketball.
I won't speak for anyone but myself, but I hate Duke because they are fawned over by the media for being the epitome of class and doing things the right way. The same way UNCheat was before the facts started getting in the way. Also, because ESPN hires 8343432 former Dukies to form the narrative every season. Just like last year when the Gameday crew made it their mission to get Duke a #1 seed. They failed because it made no freaking sense.
Another reason is the flopping, which is taught by their coach, which is an appallingly bad thing to teach his players. Don't worry about actually playing defense, just slide over and fall down. Don't worry if you might actually undercut someone and get them hurt. Also, the flaying of the legs when they shoot 3s. Tyus Jones was particularly good at that. Also, the lack of actual discipline shown to Allen after multiple incidents, and when he finally did suspend him "indefinitely", it turned out to be ONE game. That'll learn him.
Another reason is because they, like UNCheat, are allowed to anything they want with impunity. When stuff like the Maggette case or the Thomas case comes along, the NCAA puts their fingers in their ears and goes "la la la la la la". There is nothing you, or UNCheat could do that would result in serious punishment from the NCAA.
Lastly, there is the myth about Krybabyshitski. We are told how much of a class act he is, when I am sure you have heard all the stories behind the scenes that paints an entirely different picture. He learned at the feet of Bobby Knight after all.
I am extremely excited to have the chance to play a tough, battle tested Florida team twice before the NCAA tourney. I think the SEC is going to prepare us to play in the tournament better than any other conference. The SEC being good every year only helps us as we always have young teams that need the competition.
Florida has a big man out injured and they will be very tough when he returns.
Every one of dukes close games has gone this way. They miraculously stop fouling, and their opponents hack away.