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PalmettoTiger1

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So to recap in SOUTH CAROLINA….

Bidens policies bring down gas from $5.00 to $3.03. (40% decrease)

Trump’s policies bring down gas from $3.03 to $2.64. (12% decrease)

Why are magas even bragging about this?

So you give the arsonist credit for setting the house on fire and then having it end up higher than when Trump left office.

So he gets credit for reducing it 40% from his 100% increase

NY REASONING I think
You're experience mirrors many Americans right now. That's why republicans will lose house and maybe Senate in 2026. Biden tried to tell us that everything was rosy and that we just didn't understand. Trump is attempting the same thing. "Democrats are lying to you". That may be but them telling the truth doesn't bring prices down. Affordability, previously known as cost of living, is the issue de jour, and the only way Trump comes out a winner is to get prices down.


There was a statement you made that is so true. I will add my thoughts to it.

@baltimorened You said once prices rise it's really hard to come back down to the previous level. 100% true, Biden in m y opinion drove prices up along with some unforeseen problems that in fairness he had little control over. To drive prices back down take supply side economics which means create a larger supply of product or the inverse destroy demand through a recession or deflationary period which is really painful.

Trump like all politicians used rhetoric and hyperbole on the subject of HOW FAST to get inflation and prices under control. I totally agree with almost every one of his policies and think long term they are the right ones however the average American is not rocket scientist when understanding the lead and lag time that are needed to produced results.

To make this simple think in terms you want cornbread. It does not magically appear. You have to start with the field, go through the planting raising and harvesting process and then the cooking process and then the cornbread is on the table. That is where the Trump agenda and economy is at working through the steps.

Go back to how the US government and legislature runs. You worked government so you know the budget is lagging and not leading. We still don't have the 2026 budget which will be Trump's and still working off 2025 budget numbers which are the Biden 2025 Congress numbers, Trump's impact will not be felt significantly until sometime mid-summer in my opinion. To further point out the lagging effect is that many of the Trump appointees are still waiting to be confirmed by the Senate due to stalling which is the way politics work.

So here is the Trump and Republican problem as I see it. Inflation has been driven far higher that the 21% in the area that affects Americans the most. At the kitchen table. I was working with some grocery stores on trying to fix some food desserts and heard a really distressing thought by groceries. Since COVID the grocery store have pushed prices up even when it was not justified. The fellow I was working with said the typical grocery stores were jacking the prices. Trump as a huge problem with prices are sticky and his policies make long term sense but in the short run needs to be calibrated to help with this bloated pricing model.

I also believe that a significant portion of the stubborn high food cost are a direct result of letting in 12-20 million people and then feeding them with government largesse through NGO's which charged god awful fees to shelter and feed these illegals. Simply said demand side was increased, and price rose following this demand.

I also believe small contributors to the cost stickiness was the government shutdown and the TDS impact of people wanting to be uncivil.

Additionally the laws in many states now have it where grocery suppliers might see a shoplifter but fail to do anything as the laws are so lenient the store owner gives up, Saw on camera this week people shoplifting foods and when I asked what was the grocery going to do , he said nothing as the stealing is enabled by the laws and judges. So that is a big problem. Not a hearsay as I saw it with my own eyes on CCTV multiple people stealing foods.

The deportations will help food prices but again not overnight,

I share the thoughts that the Republicans and Trump although doing a lot of right things have not focused on the one thing that gets folks elected. KITCHEN TABLE POLITICS. In ancient Rome the leaders knew the citizens always had to have bread or there would be unrest.

I am going to sit back and watch the next months as this affordability crisis is going to determine who controls Congress.
 

PalmettoTiger1

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Fair I guess but Trump has only been in for 10 months and 20 ish days.

In my store prices on essentials are trending down.

I like about 90% of his policies.

My biggest gripe is giving Putin any leeway. SELL, don't give, Ukraine whatever they need short of a nuke and let them whack that chinless b@stard.

I also see the some trends in the grocery stores as I but my own food and cook it. Usually buy fresh vegetables, fruits and meats and cook as I enjoy it plus its much healthier than the highly processed foods.

The more processed the more it costs to buy for less. Problem is people want NOW AND CONVIENCE which does not lend to low cost and healthy.

But to mirror your post prices are starting to creep down on certain items, but darn hamburger is out of sight so no meatloaf , hamburgers or chili until it gets back to around $3 a pound. Some stores were charging $14 a pound where some were $7 but both are off the charts highway robbery and I say I know farmers need to make a living but that is way over the reasonable line.
 

PalmettoTiger1

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1.) Bides policies were anti-fossil fuel.
2.) Price of gas is not only about production but is speculative on the commodity markets. Every time there is a hiccup in the oil patch prices go up.
3.) Gas went down as soon as Trump was elected because people knew he was pro production. I don't go back to nov or dec of 2024 because the commodities were starting to price in Trumps policies. Lets go to April 2024 when it peaked at $3.67 and it was $3.88 at peak in 2023. Those are more reflective of Biden and his crusade against fossil fuels.
4.) Average this year $2.99. But I paid 2.26 last time I filled up.
5.) so a swing of 89 cents for the average and dollar for me. Biden apologist want to play some 6 or 8 cent game? Nope people knew Trump was going to beat Biden like a rented mule and figured he was a lean over Kamala. This was factored into commodities, beginning in the summer of 2024.

Now when you spend like a drunken sailor, have shortages, try to rig the system in favor of renewables, push other green nonsense raising the cost of energy you get runaway inflation.

So lets be fair.

Ws war in Iraq pushed gas prices up, this led to inflation, inflation pushed those on the financial edge into mortgage default, this coupled with democrat (Carter, Clinton, Barney Frank) housing/lending policies led to the great recession of 2008 and the election of zer0.

Biden ish is on him.

Now as for energy its 12c/kwh here and was 10 under Trump 45. Inflation and increasing demand due to growth and AI may be the issue. So I will give Biden a pass on local growth and AI.

Back to gas. Nov of 2020 on election day I made note of gas. It was $1.67. Eggs were .88c/dozen . Milk was close to $3. Inflation was way higher than the 9% they claimed under Biden. People can play with stats but I will deal with real numbers for my area. Also for my area, condos and apartment are gong up like crazy! We need new single family modest homes. They need to be 1600-1800 sqft and be in the $300K or less range. Then younger people can afford them.

Now lets look at Biden again. I believe I got 2 checks for ~11K don't remember the year. I calculated that the next year saw an increase of 10K in living expenses and no stimulus. So nearly a negative 20K swing. I was running a very small non-profit. Wife got a meager raise. Our credit card debt went through the roof. This is why I looked at the numbers. I was incredulous as to why she had put 10K on a card in less than a year. Most of the CC spending was on food. Under Trump my food budget was 640/mo for family of 4. Its closer to 800-1000 now. Shopped at Aldi yesterday for some supplemental food stuffs. Left with one Aldi bag. $60. From Sunday to today at least 200 total on food. AND we are cooking at home, not buying a bunch of highly processed food!

Real numbers that affect me.

Aldi and Lidl are great options for certain products.

I when possible buy milk, hard cheeses, seafood particularly salmon at LIDL and some veggies from these two.

Pick and choose on these two stores can really save some dollars.
 

nytigerfan

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So you give the arsonist credit for setting the house on fire and then having it end up higher than when Trump left office.

So he gets credit for reducing it 40% from his 100% increase

NY REASONING I think

Ill ask you the same question I have asked two other times in this thread and have yet to give an answer...


What did Biden (the arsonist in your words) do differently in the 2nd half of presidency to bring prices down?

He must have done a complete about face on policy... did he abandon green energy? build the pipeline? obtained peace in Ukraine? What specifically in his policies changed to so effectively lower the price of gas?
 
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Ill ask you the same question I have asked two other times in this thread and have yet to give an answer...


What did Biden (the arsonist in your words) do differently in the 2nd half of presidency to bring prices down?

He must have done a complete about face on policy... did he abandon green energy? build the pipeline? obtained peace in Ukraine? What specifically in his policies changed to so effectively lower the price of gas?
In general, Biden didn't bring down prices, The prices are basically where they were. That's the issue. Trump promised to bring prices down and that has not happened (in most instances) But, the rate of inflation fell or if you prefer Biden brought down the rate of inflation.
 
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PalmettoTiger1

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Ill ask you the same question I have asked two other times in this thread and have yet to give an answer...


What did Biden (the arsonist in your words) do differently in the 2nd half of presidency to bring prices down?

He must have done a complete about face on policy... did he abandon green energy? build the pipeline? obtained peace in Ukraine? What specifically in his policies changed to so effectively lower the price of gas?

I will be fair to BIDEN in saying I don't really recall the exact circumstances which contributed to the gas price runup.

Some was on Biden. Some was on stuff he could not help. The real issue I have with Biden is that he was suffering random dementia which older folks do and i don't believe he was acting as President but that he was a broken man in a body, folks including his wife was manipulating.

The best answer I can give is although I believe in green energy, when possible, it is not possible in any way imaginable to generate enough energy for this country using green energy.

Based on that when Biden came into office he double downed on Green Energy and turned-on carbon-based energy. This specifically was a huge cost boost to energy costs. Secondly the tightening of Federal Regulations on pipelines was a huge detriment. Of course there were more, but these are the ones that come to mind. Biden also restricted oil leases.

He did empty the SPR selling millions of gallons of oil to drive the price down short term and left us long term vulnerable. That was a trick play to reduce some costs.

So now you have a target to shot at to prove me wrong. FIRE AWAY!
 
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I also see the some trends in the grocery stores as I but my own food and cook it. Usually buy fresh vegetables, fruits and meats and cook as I enjoy it plus its much healthier than the highly processed foods.

The more processed the more it costs to buy for less. Problem is people want NOW AND CONVIENCE which does not lend to low cost and healthy.

But to mirror your post prices are starting to creep down on certain items, but darn hamburger is out of sight so no meatloaf , hamburgers or chili until it gets back to around $3 a pound. Some stores were charging $14 a pound where some were $7 but both are off the charts highway robbery and I say I know farmers need to make a living but that is way over the reasonable line.
So cattle population declined in the USoA and Mexico got screw worm. Of course never let a crisis go to waste. I think prices went way higher than the situation dictated. I don't think farmers are getting a windfall. Maybe the processors.
 
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The best answer I can give is although I believe in green energy, when possible, it is not possible in any way imaginable to generate enough energy for this country using green energy.
I want solar on my house when I retire. Modular nukes would probably bring down the cost of electricity and would run rain or shine wind of not.
Based on that when Biden came into office he double downed on Green Energy and turned-on carbon-based energy. This specifically was a huge cost boost to energy costs. Secondly the tightening of Federal Regulations on pipelines was a huge detriment. Of course there were more, but these are the ones that come to mind. Biden also restricted oil leases.
My car will not get me across the country on sunshine. I need liquid fuel.
 
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I will be fair to BIDEN in saying I don't really recall the exact circumstances which contributed to the gas price runup.

Some was on Biden. Some was on stuff he could not help. The real issue I have with Biden is that he was suffering random dementia which older folks do and i don't believe he was acting as President but that he was a broken man in a body, folks including his wife was manipulating.

The best answer I can give is although I believe in green energy, when possible, it is not possible in any way imaginable to generate enough energy for this country using green energy.

Based on that when Biden came into office he double downed on Green Energy and turned-on carbon-based energy. This specifically was a huge cost boost to energy costs. Secondly the tightening of Federal Regulations on pipelines was a huge detriment. Of course there were more, but these are the ones that come to mind. Biden also restricted oil leases.

He did empty the SPR selling millions of gallons of oil to drive the price down short term and left us long term vulnerable. That was a trick play to reduce some costs.

So now you have a target to shot at to prove me wrong. FIRE AWAY!

No need to respond. You just outed yourself as being completely full of ****.
 

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So to recap in SOUTH CAROLINA….

Bidens policies bring down gas from $5.00 to $3.03. (40% decrease)

Trump’s policies bring down gas from $3.03 to $2.64. (12% decrease)

Why are magas even bragging about this?
Biden drains the national reserves in 24 to try and win the election which brings the price of gas down and the loony libs are bragging about it.
 

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No need to respond. You just outed yourself as being completely full of ****.
not so...it seems as if folks on either side of their debate might be cherry picking facts to support their positions. There were lots of reasons for both gas price increases and decreases. Some were tied to policy and some to outside forces.
 
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PalmettoTiger1

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not so...it seems as if folks on either side of their debate might be cherry picking facts to support their positions. There were lots of reasons for both gas price increases and decreases. Some were tied to policy and some to outside forces.

The TRUTH if one will open their minds is that things can take years if not decades and have nothing to do with political parties.

The answer is politicians need leverage to sell themselves and convince people to vote for their ideas and not their policy.

I always remember thinking how Clinton benefitted from Regan policies that were years before him but the fruits started to bear under Clinton.

And to clarify I really liked Clinton as forgave him for the dragon in the pants episodes. LOL
 
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$.146 Per kWh here in SC

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I just read a story in the daily caller, about a research paper by the institute for energy research (IER) that might be worth reading. Just an aside, this institute, a nonprofit, gets funding from fossil fuel industry, so it likely has a built in bias. But since the data comes from multiple sources it has validity
 

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One thing I always hear is if the power company has to buy green energy the rates will be higher than if they simply generate it in the old fashioned way. Green is the most expensive and unreliable energy particularly solar with wind being 20 years costly wash of money.
 
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The TRUTH if one will open their minds is that things can take years if not decades and have nothing to do with political parties.

The answer is politicians need leverage to sell themselves and convince people to vote for their ideas and not their policy.

I always remember thinking how Clinton benefitted from Regan policies that were years before him but the fruits started to bear under Clinton.

And to clarify I really liked Clinton as forgave him for the dragon in the pants episodes. LOL
Clinton must be given credit for being the last President to balance the budget without crushing the economy.
 

PalmettoTiger1

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Clinton must be given credit for being the last President to balance the budget without crushing the economy.

That is WHY I LIKED HIM VOTED FOR HIM TWICE A DEMOCRAT

HE PLAYED THE POLITICAL GAME TO A T

TUFF ON CRIME AND WELFARE

WOULD VOTE FOR HIS POLICIES AGAIN
 

fatpiggy

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No, they purchased oil in '24 to refill the SPR after selling it in 2022.
Broader Context and CriticismsBiden's actions were framed as responses to "Putin's price hike" from the Ukraine war, which exacerbated inflation and pump prices (peaking ~$5/gallon in mid-2022). Supporters credit the releases with moderating global oil prices and supporting clean energy transitions. Critics, including Republicans like Sens. John Barrasso and Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, argued the drawdowns masked policy failures (e.g., restricted domestic leasing) and risked national security by treating the SPR as a "political piggy bank." President-elect Donald Trump pledged immediate refills upon taking office in 2025.Overall, while effective short-term for price relief, the net effect left the SPR ~250 million barrels lighter than at the start of Biden's term, highlighting tensions between emergency use and long-term energy security.

Overview of Biden's Use of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR)During President Joe Biden's term (January 2021–January 2025), the administration utilized the SPR—America's emergency stockpile of crude oil, established in 1975 to mitigate supply disruptions—more extensively than any prior presidency. The primary actions involved large-scale releases to counter global energy price spikes, particularly following Russia's 2022 invasion of Ukraine, followed by a deliberate replenishment effort. These moves aimed to stabilize domestic fuel prices but drew criticism for depleting reserves to historic lows and potentially politicizing the stockpile. Below is a chronological breakdown.Key Releases from the SPRBiden authorized multiple drawdowns, totaling approximately 270–290 million barrels, which reduced the SPR from 638 million barrels at his inauguration to a low of around 367 million by late 2022. This represented a 42% decline and the lowest level since the 1980s.
DateActionVolume ReleasedContext and Impact
November 2021Initial coordinated release with China and other nations.~50 million barrelsResponded to rising global oil prices amid post-COVID recovery; part of International Energy Agency (IEA) efforts.
March–April 2022Historic emergency release announced post-Russia's Ukraine invasion.180 million barrels (1 million barrels/day over 6 months)Largest single drawdown in SPR history; combined with IEA partners' 60 million barrels. Estimated to lower U.S. gasoline prices by 17–42 cents/gallon.
October 2022Final tranche of the 2022 release.15 million barrelsAimed at winter price relief; Biden emphasized it was not politically motivated ahead of midterms.
May 2024Release from Northeast Gasoline Supply Reserve (a related emergency stockpile).1 million barrels of gasolineTargeted summer driving season price relief; separate from main SPR but part of broader energy cost mitigation.
These releases were sold at an average of $95 per barrel, generating revenue for replenishment but leaving the U.S. more vulnerable to future disruptions, per Republican critiques.Replenishment EffortsStarting in early 2023, the administration shifted to refilling the SPR using sale proceeds and exchange mechanisms, acquiring oil at lower prices to benefit taxpayers. By November 2024, they completed purchases totaling nearly 200 million barrels (including retained barrels), netting a 20 million barrel surplus over the 180 million sold in 2022.
  • Average Purchase Price: $74.75 per barrel—below the $95 sale price, saving ~$3.8 billion.
  • Total Acquired: ~194 million barrels delivered or contracted, plus ~5 million via accelerated exchanges.
  • Funding: Fully utilized $16.95 billion from 2022 sales (minus $2.05 billion rescinded by Congress for deficit reduction).
  • Status as of Late 2024: SPR held ~387 million barrels, still the world's largest but below pre-Biden levels. No further buys were planned under Biden, though future administrations could resume.
The strategy provided market certainty for producers and prepared the stockpile for emergencies, according to Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm.Broader Context and CriticismsBiden's actions were framed as responses to "Putin's price hike" from the Ukraine war, which exacerbated inflation and pump prices (peaking ~$5/gallon in mid-2022). Supporters credit the releases with moderating global oil prices and supporting clean energy transitions. Critics, including Republicans like Sens. John Barrasso and Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, argued the drawdowns masked policy failures (e.g., restricted domestic leasing) and risked national security by treating the SPR as a "political piggy bank." President-elect Donald Trump pledged immediate refills upon taking office in 2025.Overall, while effective short-term for price relief, the net effect left the SPR ~250 million barrels lighter than at the start of Biden's term, highlighting tensions between emergency use and long-term energy security.
 
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That is WHY I LIKED HIM VOTED FOR HIM TWICE A DEMOCRAT

HE PLAYED THE POLITICAL GAME TO A T

TUFF ON CRIME AND WELFARE

WOULD VOTE FOR HIS POLICIES AGAIN
Many of his policies would be considered republican now. Same with Obama. Immigration for instance.
 

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Broader Context and CriticismsBiden's actions were framed as responses to "Putin's price hike" from the Ukraine war, which exacerbated inflation and pump prices (peaking ~$5/gallon in mid-2022). Supporters credit the releases with moderating global oil prices and supporting clean energy transitions. Critics, including Republicans like Sens. John Barrasso and Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, argued the drawdowns masked policy failures (e.g., restricted domestic leasing) and risked national security by treating the SPR as a "political piggy bank." President-elect Donald Trump pledged immediate refills upon taking office in 2025.Overall, while effective short-term for price relief, the net effect left the SPR ~250 million barrels lighter than at the start of Biden's term, highlighting tensions between emergency use and long-term energy security.

Overview of Biden's Use of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR)During President Joe Biden's term (January 2021–January 2025), the administration utilized the SPR—America's emergency stockpile of crude oil, established in 1975 to mitigate supply disruptions—more extensively than any prior presidency. The primary actions involved large-scale releases to counter global energy price spikes, particularly following Russia's 2022 invasion of Ukraine, followed by a deliberate replenishment effort. These moves aimed to stabilize domestic fuel prices but drew criticism for depleting reserves to historic lows and potentially politicizing the stockpile. Below is a chronological breakdown.Key Releases from the SPRBiden authorized multiple drawdowns, totaling approximately 270–290 million barrels, which reduced the SPR from 638 million barrels at his inauguration to a low of around 367 million by late 2022. This represented a 42% decline and the lowest level since the 1980s.
DateActionVolume ReleasedContext and Impact
November 2021Initial coordinated release with China and other nations.~50 million barrelsResponded to rising global oil prices amid post-COVID recovery; part of International Energy Agency (IEA) efforts.
March–April 2022Historic emergency release announced post-Russia's Ukraine invasion.180 million barrels (1 million barrels/day over 6 months)Largest single drawdown in SPR history; combined with IEA partners' 60 million barrels. Estimated to lower U.S. gasoline prices by 17–42 cents/gallon.
October 2022Final tranche of the 2022 release.15 million barrelsAimed at winter price relief; Biden emphasized it was not politically motivated ahead of midterms.
May 2024Release from Northeast Gasoline Supply Reserve (a related emergency stockpile).1 million barrels of gasolineTargeted summer driving season price relief; separate from main SPR but part of broader energy cost mitigation.
These releases were sold at an average of $95 per barrel, generating revenue for replenishment but leaving the U.S. more vulnerable to future disruptions, per Republican critiques.Replenishment EffortsStarting in early 2023, the administration shifted to refilling the SPR using sale proceeds and exchange mechanisms, acquiring oil at lower prices to benefit taxpayers. By November 2024, they completed purchases totaling nearly 200 million barrels (including retained barrels), netting a 20 million barrel surplus over the 180 million sold in 2022.
  • Average Purchase Price: $74.75 per barrel—below the $95 sale price, saving ~$3.8 billion.
  • Total Acquired: ~194 million barrels delivered or contracted, plus ~5 million via accelerated exchanges.
  • Funding: Fully utilized $16.95 billion from 2022 sales (minus $2.05 billion rescinded by Congress for deficit reduction).
  • Status as of Late 2024: SPR held ~387 million barrels, still the world's largest but below pre-Biden levels. No further buys were planned under Biden, though future administrations could resume.
The strategy provided market certainty for producers and prepared the stockpile for emergencies, according to Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm.Broader Context and CriticismsBiden's actions were framed as responses to "Putin's price hike" from the Ukraine war, which exacerbated inflation and pump prices (peaking ~$5/gallon in mid-2022). Supporters credit the releases with moderating global oil prices and supporting clean energy transitions. Critics, including Republicans like Sens. John Barrasso and Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, argued the drawdowns masked policy failures (e.g., restricted domestic leasing) and risked national security by treating the SPR as a "political piggy bank." President-elect Donald Trump pledged immediate refills upon taking office in 2025.Overall, while effective short-term for price relief, the net effect left the SPR ~250 million barrels lighter than at the start of Biden's term, highlighting tensions between emergency use and long-term energy security.
Yeah, this all backs up what I said. They, to quote TigerGrowls, "Drain(ed) the reserves" in 2022, not 2024. Releasing 1m barrels before the summer rush in 2024 is not "draining the reserves." They also purchased 200m in 2024 to restock the SPR.
 

fatpiggy

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For some more context.

Here are the precise figures for the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) crude oil inventory at the exact start and end of Joe Biden’s presidency (January 20, 2021 – January 20, 2025):
DateEventSPR Crude Oil Inventory (million barrels)Source
January 15, 2021Last weekly report before Biden’s inauguration (closest available)638.1EIA Weekly
January 20, 2021Inauguration Day (estimated, linear interpolation)637.9 – 638.0DOE/EIA
January 17, 2025Last weekly report before Trump’s second inauguration393.7EIA Weekly
January 20, 2025End of Biden term (estimated)~393.5 – 394.0DOE/EIA
Summary
  • Beginning of Biden term (Jan 20, 2021): ≈ 638 million barrels
  • End of Biden term (Jan 20, 2025): ≈ 394 million barrels
  • Net change during Biden’s presidency: −244 million barrels (a decline of roughly 38%)
This represents the largest absolute drawdown of the SPR in its 50-year history, driven primarily by the emergency sales in 2021–2022 (totaling ~290 million barrels released), partially offset by later replenishments of about 45–50 million barrels purchased or returned by the end of his term.

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PawPride

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It's kind of funny, when you think about the SPR movement in 2022. 200m barrels were slated to be released from 2025-2027, but the Biden admin fast-forwarded that to occur in 2021-2022. I was mistaken that we refilled 200m barrels in 2024, as technically they just cancelled the 2025-2027 sale of 200m barrels.
 

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Unfortunately, that requires visiting/living in Sumter, SC, and no one with a brain would willingly choose to do that.
 
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Yes if you’re in their rewards. I think regular was either 2.22 or 2.32. God how pathetic are you to look it up though hahah. Would you rather have higher gas prices, so you can b!tch more about your King?
Nah, I just like proving you're a liar so we know we can dismiss any claims you make.

We weren't talking about reward points, only prices at the pump, which according to their own website was $2.52 today.

You lied.
 

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Also, since you obviously have nothing better to do, look up the one on the garden city connected in Murrells Inlet Sc and let Daddy know how much it was there, too😉
Nobody cares about the white trash hollers you slink around.