Gary Waters against graduate transfers - ESPN interview

[CornerTavern]

anyone see it?

good overall report.

http://espn.go.com/college-football...-golson-reignite-graduate-transfer-discussion

 

[Sideline20]

anyone see it?

good overall report.

http://espn.go.com/college-football...-golson-reignite-graduate-transfer-discussion

Cleveland State's roster has been ravaged by these transfers. Imagine if they had the 3 seniors this season.......Bryn Forbes (Michigan State)....well he went "hardship", while Trey Lewis (Louisville) and Anton Grady (Wichita State) graduated and left. They would have been NCAA bound for sure. Now, not so much.

 

[ecojew]

If we truly want to keep the "student" in "student-athlete," then a student who has graduated should be allowed to pursue his/her grad degree at another university and use a remaining year of athletic eligibility without penalty. I can understand a coach's desire to keep the student around after investing so much time in him/her but the student's ultimate interests need to come first. Stanford's Shaw got it right.

We should be focusing our energy on the athletes who don't graduate, not those who do.

 

[blockm2]

I have a hard time being against a system that rewards a player for graduating college with the option of continuing to play/study somewhere else for a year. Especially when that same system let's those players' coaches they committed to up and leave for another school with no notice.

So coaches that treat jobs like a turnstyle trying to always go somewhere bigger and better probably shouldn't whine when their players graduate and then look to go somewhere else.

 

[Knight_Light]

Cleveland State's roster has been ravaged by these transfers. Imagine if they had the 3 seniors this season.......Bryn Forbes (Michigan State)....well he went "hardship", while Trey Lewis (Louisville) and Anton Grady (Wichita State) graduated and left. They would have been NCAA bound for sure. Now, not so much.

Most Graduate Transfers are 5th years...as they have used a redshirt year in the past (like at Cleveland St, either for transfering in and/or not being qualified in Year 1).

Very few graduate after 3 years of college (and college play), so if you don't want players to graduate/leave your program with 1 year of eligibility, don't redshirt and/or except transfers who need a redshirt year to sit out.

 

[billhobo]

If we truly want to keep the "student" in "student-athlete," then a student who has graduated should be allowed to pursue his/her grad degree at another university and use a remaining year of athletic eligibility without penalty. I can understand a coach's desire to keep the student around after investing so much time in him/her but the student's ultimate interests need to come first. Stanford's Shaw got it right.

We should be focusing our energy on the athletes who don't graduate, not those who do.

Agree 100%. Often we're criticizing college athletics for too many kids not graduating, but in this particular thread we're debating graduates as if graduation's a bad thing.

 

[nj124]

anyone see it?

good overall report.

Good job posting this topic