Gary Parrish on NCAA and immunity

[bulldognation]

Playing the victim card resonates with a growing segment of our society today. If they totally sell out with the "us versus the world" battle cry once the NCAA nukes them, then they'll either fade back into mediocrity or gain the attention of the Last Chance U types who just need a little help and the flash of being able to say you're at an SEC school.

 

[Strike.sixpack]

No question about this.
I read a post over there recently where a Bear said that they got screwed in 1994, and the NCAA hammered them over a couple of minor infractions.

I've seen these fairies sticking with the 9 over 3 nonsense. It's like they can't read or something.

Screwed in 1994? They had multiple boosters and coaches offering cars, money, airplane ticket for family and girlfriend for games, etc. They were slammed for Lack of Institutional Control and had the head coach named in violations including unethical conduct. Not to mentioned they lost their appeal chaired by none other than Mike Slive (another stunning defeat to that elite and powerful law school at the Harvard of the South, please please lawyer up).

 

[Drebin]

Screwed in 1994? They had multiple boosters and coaches offering cars, money, airplane ticket for family and girlfriend for games, etc. They were slammed for Lack of Institutional Control and had the head coach named in violations including unethical conduct. Not to mentioned they lost their appeal chaired by none other than Mike Slive (another stunning defeat to that elite and powerful law school at the Harvard of the South, please please lawyer up).

They were also busted for visits to strip clubs in memphis with recruits. It was one of the slimiest sets of accusations ever, and was one of the larger punishments ever for its time. It was far worse than what they got Jackie for and what our punishment ended up being....unless you count Croom as part of our punishment package.

 

[Crazy Cotton]

Didn't Brewer end up suing them for breach of contract when they fired him? Want to know something crazy? He was the dean of SEC coaches at the time (11 years), and was making less than 100K a year. The growth of money in SEC football over the last two decades is insane.

 

[Drebin]

Heck, the "everyone is" statement is practically their motto now. And there are still some that think the NCAA doesn't have anything on them, hence the immunity being given out. Yeah 8 Level 1's is the equivalent to nothing much (most major violations of one program from one investigation in what? A couple of decades?).

This is Bruiser's motto. Apparently they have the goods on everyone else in the conference and if they get nailed, they're rolling on everyone. You gotta be a special kind of retarded to believe that nonsense......if Ole Miss had anything that would negatively impact MSU, they for damn sure wouldn't be sitting on it.

The fall is going to be glorious....we are starting to see some desperation coming from the bunch up north. Hey Bruiser, I know you're reading this......BRING IT.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

wow were they overpaying him.

 

[Strike.sixpack]

Didn't Brewer end up suing them for breach of contract when they fired him? Want to know something crazy? He was the dean of SEC coaches at the time (11 years), and was making less than 100K a year. The growth of money in SEC football over the last two decades is insane.

He did and ended up winning but at a lesser amount than what he sued for. I think it took several years for it to finally be settled.

 

[dawgdoug1962]

Not really sure about ole Gary's education beyond high school, but I do know he is an alum of Horn Lake High....

since being temporarily located in Memphis since may, I have learned to hate gary parrish. every time I seem to hear his show he is glowing about OM and whatever. I thought for the longest the boy was their alum and mouthpiece. now I see his pic... can't think otherwise now.

 

[ChinaDogSunflower]

A sad truth. Their delusions really know no bounds...

 

[Wizard.sixpack]

I am going to bet that there are going to be more players mysteriously suspended for stupid made up **** like Jordan Wilkens throughout this season. The doom will begin during this year before sanctions are handed down. Them SOB's are going to be franticly trying to appease the NCAA by getting rid of their ineligible players. I bet they go 7-5.

 

[RutherfordBHayes]

They were also busted for visits to strip clubs in memphis with recruits. It was one of the slimiest sets of accusations ever, and was one of the larger punishments ever for its time. It was far worse than what they got Jackie for and what our punishment ended up being....unless you count Croom as part of our punishment package.

Oh, and it was way worse. And half these clowns stick their fingers in their ears and hold their breath.

Always remember, an NCAA investigation can only uncover the tip of the iceberg.

They say if they get in trouble, they'll turn us in. Ha! I know how "bad" we cheat in recruiting. Bring it on, you pastel-wearing fruits!

 

[blownback]

Listen to this, Bears. This will be important to you.

Gary Parrish is a columnist for CBS Sports, a studio analyst for CBS, and hosts a radio show on Memphis ESPN radio. Friday, he opined on the Pat Forde article and describes what "NCAA immunity" looks like in an actual investigation. He reported on the Bruce Pearl investigation at Tennessee which included NCAA immunity.

He begins around the 38:20 mark.

http://media.espn929.com/a/116466882/gary-parrish-show-thursday-august-25-2016-hour-1-w-mike-golic-jr-in-seg-2.htm

None of this matters because Hugh Freeze and Bruce Pearl are nothing alike. Silly comparison...and, no, I'm not in denial. So many shade-tree psychologists on this board. Talk about hive mind. This place is it.

 

[AlCoDog]

Freeze is a lying scumnag.

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

Elaborate more on why the two cases are not similar uses of immunity because the coaches are "nothimg alike". Thanks.

 

[TBone.sixpack]

You are cute.

 

[Strike.sixpack]

None of this matters because Hugh Freeze and Bruce Pearl are nothing alike. Silly comparison...and, no, I'm not in denial. So many shade-tree psychologists on this board. Talk about hive mind. This place is it.

I would think at this point the shear number of times we have been told that something is silly, not comparable, illogical, etc. and then it be proven to be accurate and similar to your investigation, you would want check your thought process or else be proven foolish. Again and again and again....Of course who am I talking with, spin and defend until the end baby! It is easier to deflect than reflect.

 

[MaroonNation]

Most of that 2016 recruiting class will transfer when allowed to by NCAA. No one wants to play on a team that has bowl bans.

 

[mount lefroy]

I will be devastated if they quit cheating. For the 2nd time in my life they have been nationally exposed for being the shitholes they actually are.

They ACTUALLY stop and they fade into the background. They are forever branded as a route program. No unringinging that bell. ( Like that?)

They will forever be known as the school that couldn't win legitimately. And admitted it.

Good bye bitches.

 

[blownback]

You are cute.

substitute "dead on" for "cute" and you'd have it right. This place is The Peoples Temple Agricultural Project--only the Kool Aid is maroon instead of red.

 

[TBone.sixpack]

Enjoy the season sport. Reb football has some dark days ahead.

 

[AlCoDog]

If this isn't irony. Using a Jim Jones analogy with Hugh Freeze sitting there like, "I got a woo-woo-wooden spoon." Right before he gnaws the damn handle off.

It was a big day at Jesus Ranch. Smells of ****, Ligaguie, giga giga giga gui.

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

substitute "dead on" for "cute" and you'd have it right. This place is The Peoples Temple Agricultural Project--only the Kool Aid is maroon instead of red.

Yes because every thing you OM homers float out there has been dead on lately

 

[engie]

You sure do seem worried...

 

[ckDOG]

Go on.

None of this matters because Hugh Freeze and Bruce Pearl are nothing alike. Silly comparison...and, no, I'm not in denial. So many shade-tree psychologists on this board. Talk about hive mind. This place is it.

You're counter is "you're wrong" and "this place is hive mind"? You owned this thread. Congrats.

 

[blownback]

Elaborate more on why the two cases are not similar uses of immunity because the coaches are "nothimg alike". Thanks.

this is cleverly deceitful. I didn't state the use of immunity was different. I stated that the character of the two men are entirely polar opposite. Pearl lied, and no one is surprised. Pearl got caught and tried to come clean. Everyone saw it for what it was. Pearl went down. None of this correlates very well with Freeze, save in the minds of those who wish it so.

 

[Snog]

this is cleverly deceitful. I didn't state the use of immunity was different. I stated that the character of the two men are entirely polar opposite. Pearl lied, and no one is surprised. Pearl got caught and tried to come clean. Everyone saw it for what it was. Pearl went down. None of this correlates very well with Freeze, save in the minds of those who wish it so.

Freeze brought a booster on an in home recruiting visit and called it a "mistake".

You've got to be a special kind of stupid to see that as not lying.

Any DI coach with an IQ above 70 knows that is an instant way to get fired.

 

[Strike.sixpack]

substitute "dead on" for "cute" and you'd have it right. This place is The Peoples Temple Agricultural Project--only the Kool Aid is maroon instead of red.

Yeah. Y'all stockpiled the red Kool Aid years ago. They giving it to you in rations now? Making you dependent, paranoid and firmly entrenched in looney town.

 

[MaroonNation]

Are you thinking of Parish Alford?

 

[messageboardsuperhero]

this is cleverly deceitful. I didn't state the use of immunity was different. I stated that the character of the two men are entirely polar opposite. Pearl lied, and no one is surprised. Pearl got caught and tried to come clean. Everyone saw it for what it was. Pearl went down. None of this correlates very well with Freeze, save in the minds of those who wish it so.

Funny, because judging by the national temperature on this issue, the only ones who think Freeze isn't a liar and a cheater are those in Oxford who wish it to be so.

A former player goes on national tv and admits to taking money from coaches and you still don't think freeze is lying or cheating. Your own administration admitted to multiple level one violations under his watch and acknowledged that he brought a now disassociated booster along on an in home visit- and yet Freeze is still an honest man who doesn't cheat. You are a very poor troll.

 

[Strike.sixpack]

this is cleverly deceitful. I didn't state the use of immunity was different. I stated that the character of the two men are entirely polar opposite. Pearl lied, and no one is surprised. Pearl got caught and tried to come clean. Everyone saw it for what it was. Pearl went down. None of this correlates very well with Freeze, save in the minds of those who wish it so.

I agree with this. Pearl tried to come clean after he got caught. Freeze hasn't yet. He has decided on the Sgt. Shultz defense. "I know nothing!" But didn't he say he knew everything prior to the release of the NOA and draft night? So hard to keep track of his creative truths, from a certain point of view.

 

[patdog]

None of this matters because Hugh Freeze and Bruce Pearl are nothing alike.

I agree. I actually have a small bit of respect for Bruce Pearl.

 

[RutherfordBHayes]

None of this matters because Hugh Freeze and Bruce Pearl are nothing alike. Silly comparison...and, no, I'm not in denial. So many shade-tree psychologists on this board. Talk about hive mind. This place is it.

You missed the point as you boys have from the start.

Immunity is a big deal. The questioned players will spill their guts. It will happen. Unless, you boys got nothing to hide. And we all, you included, know that is not the case. Your NOA and response (which admits guilt) is proof.

This thing is about to get ugly.

 

[missouridawg]

You missed the point as you boys have from the start.

Immunity is a big deal. The questioned players will spill their guts. It will happen. Unless, you boys got nothing to hide. And we all, you included, know that is not the case. Your NOA and response (which admits guilt) is proof.

This thing is about to get ugly.

The immunity deal really hurts the school being invesrigated. You essentially tell a kid at another school, who could care less about the school/coach being investigated, that if he gets caught lying to protect the school/coach he is not playing for that he could lose his eligibility. And no matter what information he provides, he will not be punished... There really is no incentive at all to not come completely clean in these types of cases where immunity is offered.

 

[drt7891]

Typically, immunity is offered when:

1. They KNOW the player knows SOMETHING about an accusation (see the Tennessee kid in the Bruce Pearl case)
2. The school won't come clean about a accusation.

I don't have many sources, but I do know for a fact the "immunity card" is the ace card the NCAA will play in an investigation. They don't play it unless they have to and they don't play it unless they believe the school isn't cooperating.

Those shitheads also forget that one of their own squealed on us about 12 years ago. This is not some unprecedented deal, what likely happened is they suspect a severe violation took place and the school keeps giving them the runaround. If it's discovered the school/coach lied, that school/coach is in major ****.

 

[coach66]

Checkmate is the term that comes to mind.

nm

 

[coach66]

Yea, Brusier keeps trying to tell me that the NCAA is just on some big fishing

trip with this immunity deal. I would characterize more as a high fence hunting trip.

 

[TBone.sixpack]

Bruiser's mind is an endless well of delusion and ignorance.

 

[drt7891]

Absolutely not. There is reason enough to believe something happened and the Only way the NCAA can get the corroborated proof they need is offering immunity to players not at OM. Players not at OM have no reason to stick up for OM.

 

[Strike.sixpack]

trip with this immunity deal. I would characterize more as a high fence hunting trip.

I love this delusion they have that NCAA is fishing when they already have 8 Level 1's in the boat. Like the NCAA is trying to catch something. No you douches, they just adding to an already impressive haul of fish with some massive weight. They are just looking to add to the total and set a world record with the number of violations of one program in one investigation.

 

[Dolphus Raymond]

I was curious about the possible ramifications of the immunity issue so I did the logical thing: I asked someone who could give me a valid, and non-biased answer. So, I asked a family friend who is a Div. 1 head coach about it. Regarding the immunity issue, his words were "granting immunity is the NCAA's ultimate power-play" and is utilized only rarely by them. When used, the school on the receiving end of it are "in deep ****".