Basketball GAME THREAD: RHoops vs. Wisconsin

RUsojo

Heisman
Dec 17, 2010
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The good thing is the solutions to turn these disappointments around are clear as day.
 

Pancho1939_rivals

All-Conference
Jun 26, 2012
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I hate to say it but I was trying to say this in January. We just aren’t that good. We don’t have guys who make up shots. A lot of close games but still a year away from truly being an NCAA tournement team. 3 games left plus big 10 so still a chance
 

theRU

All-American
Dec 17, 2008
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Lol... Another game where we are down double digits at the half... We'll probably battle back and lose by 6
Pretty much called it.. at some point you have to question first half preparation. Can't keep trying to dig yourself out of massive holes on the road
 

RutgersChow

All-Conference
Dec 31, 2008
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This is an embarrassingly bad take
Really? - can't get to the rim. can't stop anyone from penetrating, can't get over screens, can't go by most Big 10 PG's, turns the ball over way too much for a point guard, he's a sub 30% shooter from three. I think he might even be a sub 40% shooter overall. Nice kid, great leader.
 

RUforJERSEY

Heisman
Jul 29, 2001
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Im really beginning to disbelieve the myth of RU being an elite defensive team. The three point shot is always available against them with the way they leave shooters free and then vainly try to recover. Think its coincidence how often opponents light it up from behind the arc? Open threes are like shooting in practice for high major D-1 players. Well except our beloved Knights. Now there's been more sucess at home because teams just dont shoot as well on the road. And they tend to turn the ball over more. In addition the post defense by Johnson or Carter is not good. Basically the RU defensive metrics look good if the oppponent isnt hitting those good looks from 3. But there's no lockdown defense. Even Northwestern gave em fits due to the fact that they were hitting a ton of shots from 3 and scoring effectively inside. It was when they started missing those same shots that the Knights were able to rally in that game. The RU defense is only as good as their opposition is making shots . Not because its being made difficult for them.
 
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kcg88

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Aug 11, 2017
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Im really beginning to disbelieve the myth of RU being an elite defensive team. The three point shot is always available against them with the way they leave shooters free and then vainly try to recover. Think its coincidence how often opponents light it from behind the arc? Open threes are like shooting in practice for high major D-1 players. Well except our beloved Knights. Now there's been more sucess at home because teams just dont shoot as well on the road. And they tend to turn the ball over more. In addition the post defense by Johnson or Carter is not good. Basically the RU defensive metrics look good if the oppponent isnt hitting those good looks from 3. But there's no lockdown defense. Even Northwestern gave em fits due to the fact that they were hitting a ton of shots from 3 and scoring effectively inside. It was when they started missing those same shots that the Knights were able to rally in that game. The RU defense is only as good as their opposition is making shots . Not because its being made difficult for them.

Rutgers defends every team as if they're as bad at 3 point shooting as Rutgers.
 

Rutgers25

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Jul 29, 2001
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Im really beginning to disbelieve the myth of RU being an elite defensive team. The three point shot is always available against them with the way they leave shooters free and then vainly try to recover. Think its coincidence how often opponents light it from behind the arc? Open threes are like shooting in practice for high major D-1 players. Well except our beloved Knights. Now there's been more sucess at home because teams just dont shoot as well on the road. And they tend to turn the ball over more. In addition the post defense by Johnson or Carter is not good. Basically the RU defensive metrics look good if the oppponent isnt hitting those good looks from 3. But there's no lockdown defense. Even Northwestern gave em fits due to the fact that they were hitting a ton of shots from 3 and scoring effectively inside. It was when they started missing those same shots that the Knights were able to rally in that game. The RU defense is only as good as their opposition is making shots . Not because its being made difficult for them.

we generally swarm down low and try to get in passing lanes. You’re right in that it works against teams that don’t shoot well and are sloppy with the ball.
 

RUby RED

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Aug 9, 2010
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Really? - can't get to the rim. can't stop anyone from penetrating, can't get over screens, can't go by most Big 10 PG's, turns the ball over way too much for a point guard, he's a sub 30% shooter from three. I think he might even be a sub 40% shooter overall. Nice kid, great leader.
I’m confused what prompted this take.

Last 5 games averages:
Geo: 16 pts, 4 assists, and 2 TOs on 48% shooting from the field.
Young: 5.5 pts, 1 assist, 1.5 TOs on sub 33% shooting
Tez: 5 pts, .5 assist, 1 TO on 28% shooting

What makes you think we’re a better team giving Young and Mathis more minutes at the expense of Geo? I don’t get it
 

Pancho1939_rivals

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Jun 26, 2012
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I don’t know why guys are surprised by games like this. . We don’t have one player who starts on Wisconsin. Not One...


This coaching staff is performing miracle work right now
 
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rufeelinit

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May 16, 2010
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I don’t know why guys are surprised by games like this. . We don’t have one player who starts on Wisconsin. Not One...


This coaching staff is performing miracle work right now

They may have been performing miracle work earlier in the year but not now. Other teams have figured us out on both end and either we don't have the skill to switch up further or we are being stubborn about changing what we do.
 

RutgersChow

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Dec 31, 2008
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I’m confused what prompted this take.

Last 5 games averages:
Geo: 16 pts, 4 assists, and 2 TOs on 48% shooting from the field.
Young: 5.5 pts, 1 assist, 1.5 TOs on sub 33% shooting
Tez: 5 pts, .5 assist, 1 TO on 28% shooting

What makes you think we’re a better team giving Young and Mathis more minutes at the expense of Geo? I don’t get it
Just watching guys go by him all afternoon, seeing the other team getting a zillion open threes that are too often the result of him getting beat off the dribble, two offensive fouls today the result of his inability to get by the defender. I just don't think he's the player everyone thinks he is, in fact, I know he isn't. Plus, as soon as Geo was put back in the starting lineup Caleb became invisible, and he was a huge part of how well we were playing. And he got back in the lineup because of ten great minutes against the worst team in the league. Personally, I think Caleb got a little screwed, but then again I think Caleb is a better player anyway.
 
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Pancho1939_rivals

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They may have been performing miracle work earlier in the year but not now. Other teams have figured us out on both end and either we don't have the skill to switch up further or we are being stubborn about changing what we do.


Again love these guys but the teams we are playing are more talented...
 

bac2therac

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Jul 30, 2001
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Just watching guys go by him all afternoon, seeing the other team getting a zillion open threes that are too often the result of him getting beat off the dribble, two offensive fouls today the result of his inability to get by the defender. I just don't think he's the player everyone thinks he is, in fact, I know he isn't. Plus, as soon as Geo was put back in the starting lineup Caleb became invisible, and he was a huge part of how well we were playing. And he got back in the lineup because of ten great minutes against the worst team in the league. Personally, I think Caleb got a little screwed, but then again I think Caleb is a better player anyway.


LOL...horrible take
 

bac2therac

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your posts here are generally pretty bad takes in general, that is what I am saying
 

RUforJERSEY

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Jul 29, 2001
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RUforJERSEY said:





Im really beginning to disbelieve the myth of RU being an elite defensive team. The three point shot is always available against them with the way they leave shooters free and then vainly try to recover. Think its coincidence how often opponents light it from behind the arc? Open threes are like shooting in practice for high major D-1 players. Well except our beloved Knights. Now there's been more sucess at home because teams just dont shoot as well on the road. And they tend to turn the ball over more. In addition the post defense by Johnson or Carter is not good. Basically the RU defensive metrics look good if the oppponent isnt hitting those good looks from 3. But there's no lockdown defense. Even Northwestern gave em fits due to the fact that they were hitting a ton of shots from 3 and scoring effectively inside. It was when they started missing those same shots that the Knights were able to rally in that game. The RU defense is only as good as their opposition is making shots . Not because its being made difficult for them.

we generally swarm down low and try to get in passing lanes. You’re right in that it works against teams that don’t shoot well and are sloppy with the ball.
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And its maddening that the plan and scheme always seems to be the same. No matter the strengths of the opponents or the way the game is unfolding.