Game 20 Indiana: Sprouting Wins

bac2therac

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Still leaping forward....3 wins in a row for the first time in the Big 10, consecutive home wins for the first time in the Big 10, 8th place for the first time in the Big 10, 4 regular season wins for the first time ever, first regular season win over Indiana, two consecutive wins over the Indiana basketball program. Superlatives all around. The seeds are all planted and now we are seeing the buds reaching out all around.

OSU was Pike's biggest win until Nebby became his biggest win, which has now been surpassed by the win over Indiana and to me now his biggest win of his tenure. When games start mattering and each game starts taking on more meaning than the previous then you know that a program is growing and this program is growing ALOT...more than anyone would have dreamed of. Just in 3 short weeks, we went from the up of OSU to walloppings on the road to now getting to the point where each performance is built on from game to game to game. Each win provides another opportunity...you want meaningful game opportunies. By beating PSU and now coming home and defeating Indiana, RU has set itself up for what could potential be yet another meaningful milestone vs OSU on the road. RU isnt going to win every game but its about being in the position for the first time in this conference to actual make noise.

Tonight's game...the way it went, the flat start, the absolute 9 minute **** kicking of Indiana spanning parts of two halves, and then repelling a couple of Indiana late runs by making the plays needed to do to win. This game had all the elements where Pikiell can watch how his players respond to situations...and now as you have seen from last year and early game this year, this team is responding in more positive ways and succeeding in areas where they were used to failing. I am not so sure what it is but this team takes its time to get warmed up. Last week they were down 31-18 to Nebby before going on a 15-2 run to close out the half. Tonight RU was down 29-19 looking dead in the water and closed the half with a 11-0 run. They would then take go on another 11-0 run capping off a ridiculous 22-0 over Indiana over 9 minutes of play where RU was stifiling on defense contesting everything and stepping into the passing lanes for steals that led to transition opportunity and on offense looked smooth passing the ball around and making Indiana fall a few steps behind on defense.

At 29-19 my thoughts in the game thread was that RU was just being outplayed by Indiana. They came ready to play and RU didnt, RU wasnt working hard on the defensive end but in addition they were atrocious handling the basketball. There is one thing that I notice about RU over the course of this season in the Big 10. RU will get shredded in transition. If they turn it over and do not make baskets things get out of hand quickly. We saw it vs Maryland, Minny, and Purdue and in the first half of the Nebby game. Usually turnovers are the cause and thats what was going on early on tonight, 8 RU turnovers....just wasted sloppy passes, you cannot waste possesions like that even early. But then in the last 6-7 minutes of the half, RU settled down, its simple...stop turning the ball over and rebound....and I noted at halftime two key stats....RU had come back to 29-28 and was outboarding Indiana 21-14 and 9-3 on the offensive boards....the other key stat 8 turnovers but again only one in the latter part of the half. What I loved about RU is that their half court defense was very good. Indiana was being forced to run alot of clock and not get open looks and RU was preventing 2nd chance opportunities. I felt good that RU would win if they cut down on the turnovers and rebounded...and thats exactly what happened. It went from an Indiana dictacted pace to one where RU controlled.

Lets just dig in to what went on in that 22-0 run. For starters its a totally asburd silly ridiculous stat....22 to freakin zero...what teams do that against similar competition? Huge step that RU is now capable of elevating their game to a dominant level. Ron Harper Jr was the catalyst for the run in what I believe was his best game and coming out party as a Knight .He had two rebounds, a fast break dunk that got the crowd into it and then a big 3 that made it 29-28 and followed that up with a steal in the closing minute. With Montez struggling and Indiana really clamping down on Geo and Gene, Harper provided the tonic for RU stepping in a big way and outplaying the much hyped Indiana players on both ends of the court. Coming out of the gate in the 2nd half, Harper continued his dominance on the court....a steal which led to Eugene breakaway, rebounds here and there, even a block, Ron just was all over the place...moreso on defense than offense....30 minutes, 4-8 shooting, 5 boards, 10 points.

RU's defense was good in those first 5 minutes that it led to everyone getting involved in the offense, Indiana was scrambliing and on the defensive. Eugene, Kiss, Carter, Geo, Montez all stepped up.... a team effort during that run in converting offensively. By the time the run was over at 27-3, the lead was 46-32 and RU was in total control and the question became could RU close it out. Thats when the leaders step up. Eugene like he has in all these wins was the steadying force to give RU points when they were struggling to get some. Man what does Eugene mean to this team...another double double 14 points, 10 boards and less rust from the injury. It wasnt the prettiest close out but lets be honest here. We know RU can play from behind, but could they play with a big lead. ...and you know what for such a young team they did a pretty good job. Yes we all want more free throws to go, we want more chippies to go down, yes this game could have been over with about 4 minutes to go if RU had made a few extra plays here and there. Still the benefit to a young team of being challenged by a wounded dog and shaking them off even as the lead was cut to just 6 and Indiana had the ball. RU only had one fg in the last 5 minutes but it was an emphatic one..a dunk by Kiss which made up for the Kiss turnover and the Kiss missed foul shots. Credit to him because that shot was big in sealing the deal. 7 points, 4 boards, on 3-5 shooting, Peter know is really settling into the guy we thought he could become, it may be a reduced roll, but its an important one. Then RU simply put the ball in Geo's hand, the guy you want to make foul shots. Geo had a quiet 16 but his impact was huge. 5 assists, did such a great job at running the offense in the 2nd half, one of his best jobs this year. Carter was grabbing rebounds right and left tonight...8 points, 7 boards, 5 of them offensive in just 15 minutes. That is knowing and playing his roll

McConnell, Doorson, Johnson all contributed minutes and boards and little things here and there to contribute to the team win. Montez Mathis...quiet night, he struggled in the first half, Obviously word is getting out about him in league, he was matched up with some tough competition. Struggles like this will always happen at times with freshmen but the good thing to see is that in the 2nd half, Mathis didnt allow his struggles to hurt the team, he settled down and helped out without having to be the man that had to make the plays.

We need sit back and enjoy this. RU is in rarified air right now. This is exactly how you want to see a program being built. We are not there yet but Pike is pushing all the right buttons and this great group of kids are working their butts off to simply grow and get better with each game. So so young, the ceiling is so high for the future. I have no illusions about winning at OSU, its a tough game, we know its tough to win on the road and OSU needs this game for their NCAA hopes but all we can ask is this team keep doing what they are doing and the chips may fall in the right direction. Michigan coming next week..house money game, should be a sick atmosphere at the RAC win or lose vs OSU. The first real game where you will feel the buzz in the era during the Pike era
 

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Eugene - played mean under the basket both offensively and defensively. Had intensity from the beginning of the game and was pissed at Harper early in game when Harper didn't pass ball to him. Also loved him yanking Kiss away from scrum late in game.

Kiss - played very well on both sides of ball. Got some rebounds and hit clutch shots. Playing within himself and I think reduced minutes has helped him along with benching several games ago.

Geo - clutch. Played under control and was very intelligent on the court.

Harper - also played under control and was tenacious on defense.

McConnell / Shaq Carter - contributed offensively in critical times.

Everyone else contributed and played great defense.

Great Win!
 
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Knights 1212

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Only a few weeks ago several said we probably might not win another BIG 10 game and would very possibly finish 1-19 in league. A lot has changed in the last 2 weeks. These guys are fun to watch. We actually had 8 turnovers in the first 8 minutes of the game and did not have another turnover for the last 12 minutes of the half. I just hope we can play well on the road and continue with our confidence.
 

bac2therac

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learning how to win and learning how to play with a lead

I mean serious how many of our conference wins over the past decade or so have been squeaker types at home. How many games has RU built double digit leads? That is the next step to take, getting more comfortable closing games out without taking the air out of the ball
 

RU-ROCS

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Toughness starts with Omoruyi, and toughness was RU’s calling card tonight. Great effort all around. I love that these guys are picking each other up. Tonight Montez didn’t have it so Harper did. That’s the sign of a team that is starting to get better.

The only disappointment for me tonight was a half-full student section. This team deserves better.
 

RU MAN

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Still leaping forward....3 wins in a row for the first time in the Big 10, consecutive home wins for the first time in the Big 10, 8th place for the first time in the Big 10, 4 regular season wins for the first time ever, first regular season win over Indiana, two consecutive wins over the Indiana basketball program. Superlatives all around. The seeds are all planted and now we are seeing the buds reaching out all around.

OSU was Pike's biggest win until Nebby became his biggest win, which has now been surpassed by the win over Indiana and to me now his biggest win of his tenure. When games start mattering and each game starts taking on more meaning than the previous then you know that a program is growing and this program is growing ALOT...more than anyone would have dreamed of. Just in 3 short weeks, we went from the up of OSU to walloppings on the road to now getting to the point where each performance is built on from game to game to game. Each win provides another opportunity...you want meaningful game opportunies. By beating PSU and now coming home and defeating Indiana, RU has set itself up for what could potential be yet another meaningful milestone vs OSU on the road. RU isnt going to win every game but its about being in the position for the first time in this conference to actual make noise.

Tonight's game...the way it went, the flat start, the absolute 9 minute **** kicking of Indiana spanning parts of two halves, and then repelling a couple of Indiana late runs by making the plays needed to do to win. This game had all the elements where Pikiell can watch how his players respond to situations...and now as you have seen from last year and early game this year, this team is responding in more positive ways and succeeding in areas where they were used to failing. I am not so sure what it is but this team takes its time to get warmed up. Last week they were down 31-18 to Nebby before going on a 15-2 run to close out the half. Tonight RU was down 29-19 looking dead in the water and closed the half with a 11-0 run. They would then take go on another 11-0 run capping off a ridiculous 22-0 over Indiana over 9 minutes of play where RU was stifiling on defense contesting everything and stepping into the passing lanes for steals that led to transition opportunity and on offense looked smooth passing the ball around and making Indiana fall a few steps behind on defense.

At 29-19 my thoughts in the game thread was that RU was just being outplayed by Indiana. They came ready to play and RU didnt, RU wasnt working hard on the defensive end but in addition they were atrocious handling the basketball. There is one thing that I notice about RU over the course of this season in the Big 10. RU will get shredded in transition. If they turn it over and do not make baskets things get out of hand quickly. We saw it vs Maryland, Minny, and Purdue and in the first half of the Nebby game. Usually turnovers are the cause and thats what was going on early on tonight, 8 RU turnovers....just wasted sloppy passes, you cannot waste possesions like that even early. But then in the last 6-7 minutes of the half, RU settled down, its simple...stop turning the ball over and rebound....and I noted at halftime two key stats....RU had come back to 29-28 and was outboarding Indiana 21-14 and 9-3 on the offensive boards....the other key stat 8 turnovers but again only one in the latter part of the half. What I loved about RU is that their half court defense was very good. Indiana was being forced to run alot of clock and not get open looks and RU was preventing 2nd chance opportunities. I felt good that RU would win if they cut down on the turnovers and rebounded...and thats exactly what happened. It went from an Indiana dictacted pace to one where RU controlled.

Lets just dig in to what went on in that 22-0 run. For starters its a totally asburd silly ridiculous stat....22 to freakin zero...what teams do that against similar competition? Huge step that RU is now capable of elevating their game to a dominant level. Ron Harper Jr was the catalyst for the run in what I believe was his best game and coming out party as a Knight .He had two rebounds, a fast break dunk that got the crowd into it and then a big 3 that made it 29-28 and followed that up with a steal in the closing minute. With Montez struggling and Indiana really clamping down on Geo and Gene, Harper provided the tonic for RU stepping in a big way and outplaying the much hyped Indiana players on both ends of the court. Coming out of the gate in the 2nd half, Harper continued his dominance on the court....a steal which led to Eugene breakaway, rebounds here and there, even a block, Ron just was all over the place...moreso on defense than offense....30 minutes, 4-8 shooting, 5 boards, 10 points.

RU's defense was good in those first 5 minutes that it led to everyone getting involved in the offense, Indiana was scrambliing and on the defensive. Eugene, Kiss, Carter, Geo, Montez all stepped up.... a team effort during that run in converting offensively. By the time the run was over at 27-3, the lead was 46-32 and RU was in total control and the question became could RU close it out. Thats when the leaders step up. Eugene like he has in all these wins was the steadying force to give RU points when they were struggling to get some. Man what does Eugene mean to this team...another double double 14 points, 10 boards and less rust from the injury. It wasnt the prettiest close out but lets be honest here. We know RU can play from behind, but could they play with a big lead. ...and you know what for such a young team they did a pretty good job. Yes we all want more free throws to go, we want more chippies to go down, yes this game could have been over with about 4 minutes to go if RU had made a few extra plays here and there. Still the benefit to a young team of being challenged by a wounded dog and shaking them off even as the lead was cut to just 6 and Indiana had the ball. RU only had one fg in the last 5 minutes but it was an emphatic one..a dunk by Kiss which made up for the Kiss turnover and the Kiss missed foul shots. Credit to him because that shot was big in sealing the deal. 7 points, 4 boards, on 3-5 shooting, Peter know is really settling into the guy we thought he could become, it may be a reduced roll, but its an important one. Then RU simply put the ball in Geo's hand, the guy you want to make foul shots. Geo had a quiet 16 but his impact was huge. 5 assists, did such a great job at running the offense in the 2nd half, one of his best jobs this year. Carter was grabbing rebounds right and left tonight...8 points, 7 boards, 5 of them offensive in just 15 minutes. That is knowing and playing his roll

McConnell, Doorson, Johnson all contributed minutes and boards and little things here and there to contribute to the team win. Montez Mathis...quiet night, he struggled in the first half, Obviously word is getting out about him in league, he was matched up with some tough competition. Struggles like this will always happen at times with freshmen but the good thing to see is that in the 2nd half, Mathis didnt allow his struggles to hurt the team, he settled down and helped out without having to be the man that had to make the plays.

We need sit back and enjoy this. RU is in rarified air right now. This is exactly how you want to see a program being built. We are not there yet but Pike is pushing all the right buttons and this great group of kids are working their butts off to simply grow and get better with each game. So so young, the ceiling is so high for the future. I have no illusions about winning at OSU, its a tough game, we know its tough to win on the road and OSU needs this game for their NCAA hopes but all we can ask is this team keep doing what they are doing and the chips may fall in the right direction. Michigan coming next week..house money game, should be a sick atmosphere at the RAC win or lose vs OSU. The first real game where you will feel the buzz in the era during the Pike era
BAC excellent post. Spot on. I think you'll get a kick out of this; I went over to the Indiana board and one of their long time posters said, "We have no point guards like they have Geo. Why can't we get a point guard like Geo Baker..." I LOL, because we all know that Geo is a natural 2 guard and playing out of position. Wait until next year and they see two true PG's in Mulcahy and Young come to play and Geo is in his natural 2 guard spot. But I thought it was pretty funny that they wished they had a guard running the point like Geo. Man, winning is fun.
 

Degaz-RU

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Eugene was MVP tonight. Really led the team in 2nd half. Harper a close second, for his timely buckets and solid D on Langford. I think I read that Langford only got 7 of his 20 points while being guarded by RHJ.

Free throw shooting was poor tonight (15-24), but Baker hit them when we needed them down the stretch, never letting IU get the lead under 5, and the timely FTs always seemed to push the lead back up to 7+ (three possession game).

Another solid game from 3-point range at 5-12 (41%). I’d like to see us hit 7+ per game, but if we’re only going to hit 5, at least it was an EFFICIENT 5.

Carter and Kiss with key contributions off the bench. Pike has really done a good job managing his rotations lately, and getting solid contributions from everyone. He has settled on a 9-man rotation, which is optimal. Thiam is odd man out for now. Good job riding Kiss and Harper over a struggling Mathis tonight.

Geez, I left us for dead after those Minny and Purdue blowouts. Hard to believe we’re 4-6 and in 8th place.

I don’t know if we’re ready to beat a team like OSU on the road, but if we do, the RAC will be rocking against UM next week.
 

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Great overview BAC, especially your analysis of the historic nature of what we are doing with the 3 straight wins. Once again, Geo and Eugene with 30 points tonight giving us a chance against any team in the league. We have depth and are getting great bench scoring as tonight we were 19-2 and the other night 27-6. Total Team effort tonight and I agree Harper was the player with the most juice tonight. If he hits a few more open threes it is a much more comfortable win.
My biggest takeaway is this young team is doing the hardest thing left to turn the corner, and that is learning how to win and actually doing it. For years, we would play well at home and even on the road and then unravel and the next thing you know we lost by 10 or more. These last wins by 7, 3, and 8 points were close enough that in years past , we would lose them. Now I think we have turned the corner. That bodes so well for the rest of the year not to mention next year. . I am not going to go predict we will beat Ohio State on Saturday , but if the game is close the last 5 minutes, I really like our chances because the guys are starting to taste winning and want to keep the ugly taste of losing out of their heads . Huge maturity for such a young team, and much of the credit goes to Eugene and Geo who are leading by example and toughness and taking control of communicating with the team in their own huddles.

The defense was outstanding during that 22-0 stretch and reminded me of last year for the first time in a while playing in our conference. If we can keep the defensive intensity up, it will lead to 10 more transition points , making our offense not have to be perfect . If we can cut down on turnovers, which we are capable of doing within a game like tonight and against Nebraska , where we started throwing the ball away almost every other trip down the floor and then only 2-3 turnovers for 20 minutes of play, then. We have a chance every night.

One little nitpick tonight as I thought Shaq Carter was having a real good game and he scored 8 points and had 7 rebounds in only 15 minutes and Coach forgot about him in the second half. We failed to convert 2-3 hi lows with the other Shaq and Myles, and I think Carter could have had 15 points easy tonight . I also thought Caleb should have played more as his size bothered Indiana and he was active all over the court . Again , it is nice to nitpick after a win , especially a three game winning streak win. Really happy for the players, the coach and us fans. I think they can keep it going.
 

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learning how to win and learning how to play with a lead

I mean serious how many of our conference wins over the past decade or so have been squeaker types at home. How many games has RU built double digit leads? That is the next step to take, getting more comfortable closing games out without taking the air out of the ball
Part of that is just a function of our having had poor offensive teams for a long time. But we're probably on the verge of turning that around.
 

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Great overview BAC, especially your analysis of the historic nature of what we are doing with the 3 straight wins. Once again, Geo and Eugene with 30 points tonight giving us a chance against any team in the league. We have depth and are getting great bench scoring as tonight we were 19-2 and the other night 27-6. Total Team effort tonight and I agree Harper was the player with the most juice tonight. If he hits a few more open threes it is a much more comfortable win.
My biggest takeaway is this young team is doing the hardest thing left to turn the corner, and that is learning how to win and actually doing it. For years, we would play well at home and even on the road and then unravel and the next thing you know we lost by 10 or more. These last wins by 7, 3, and 8 points were close enough that in years past , we would lose them. Now I think we have turned the corner. That bodes so well for the rest of the year not to mention next year. . I am not going to go predict we will beat Ohio State on Saturday , but if the game is close the last 5 minutes, I really like our chances because the guys are starting to taste winning and want to keep the ugly taste of losing out of their heads . Huge maturity for such a young team, and much of the credit goes to Eugene and Geo who are leading by example and toughness and taking control of communicating with the team in their own huddles.

The defense was outstanding during that 22-0 stretch and reminded me of last year for the first time in a while playing in our conference. If we can keep the defensive intensity up, it will lead to 10 more transition points , making our offense not have to be perfect . If we can cut down on turnovers, which we are capable of doing within a game like tonight and against Nebraska , where we started throwing the ball away almost every other trip down the floor and then only 2-3 turnovers for 20 minutes of play, then. We have a chance every night.

One little nitpick tonight as I thought Shaq Carter was having a real good game and he scored 8 points and had 7 rebounds in only 15 minutes and Coach forgot about him in the second half. We failed to convert 2-3 hi lows with the other Shaq and Myles, and I think Carter could have had 15 points easy tonight . I also thought Caleb should have played more as his size bothered Indiana and he was active all over the court . Again , it is nice to nitpick after a win , especially a three game winning streak win. Really happy for the players, the coach and us fans. I think they can keep it going.

I agree with you on Shaq Carter. I think Myles is very good and is only getting better, I know he was in foul trouble tonight, but I think overall Shaq Carter is our best, most consistent big right now.
 
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Great win. Agree about Carter. The team is so deep and not everyone will be feeling it every night .Carter was feeling it tonight. I would like to see Pike ride hot hands a little more sometimes
 
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Great synopsis by all you guys LOL

The radio announcers went into great detail how well regarded the Indiana team was as recruits and Langford had 12 NFL scout in attendance to see >HIM< handle Rutgers

Turns out the 12 NBA scouts that got treated to
-a monumental run by Rutgers(was it a 24 point run?)
-a RAC overflowing with great fans
-a coach that definitely doing a great job coaching
-a team that played AS A TEAM & had each others back
-& a group of guys consisting of Eugene, GEO, Harper Jr, Kiss et al...
[thumb2][thumb2][thumb2][thumb2][thumb2][thumb2]all doing their job![thumb2][thumb2][thumb2][thumb2][thumb2][thumb2][thumb2]

You can bet the NBA scouts went away with a great opinion of what they just saw
:cool2:[jumpingsmile]:cool2:[jumpingsmile]quite simply this was Rutgers night[jumpingsmile]:cool2:[jumpingsmile]:cool2:
.................................but it was also .......................................
:boom::americanflag::basketball::cool2:Rutgers 3 game historical RUN:cool2::basketball::americanflag::boom:
 
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bac2therac

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Eugene was MVP tonight. Really led the team in 2nd half. Harper a close second, for his timely buckets and solid D on Langford. I think I read that Langford only got 7 of his 20 points while being guarded by RHJ.

Free throw shooting was poor tonight (15-24), but Baker hit them when we needed them down the stretch, never letting IU get the lead under 5, and the timely FTs always seemed to push the lead back up to 7+ (three possession game).

Another solid game from 3-point range at 5-12 (41%). I’d like to see us hit 7+ per game, but if we’re only going to hit 5, at least it was an EFFICIENT 5.

Carter and Kiss with key contributions off the bench. Pike has really done a good job managing his rotations lately, and getting solid contributions from everyone. He has settled on a 9-man rotation, which is optimal. Thiam is odd man out for now. Good job riding Kiss and Harper over a struggling Mathis tonight.

Geez, I left us for dead after those Minny and Purdue blowouts. Hard to believe we’re 4-6 and in 8th place.

I don’t know if we’re ready to beat a team like OSU on the road, but if we do, the RAC will be rocking against UM next week.

the offense is being much more deliberate and not just jacking up 3s...you make a good point, about efficient 5. With the more scoring threats we are in the paint and driving to the hoop and getting fouled its going to open up for some kickouts back to the perimeter for 3 point attempts

RU has really done a good job at getting to the line the last few games....more free points if they can make them, which down the stretch in these last 3 games they generally have
 
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bac2therac

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Great overview BAC, especially your analysis of the historic nature of what we are doing with the 3 straight wins. Once again, Geo and Eugene with 30 points tonight giving us a chance against any team in the league. We have depth and are getting great bench scoring as tonight we were 19-2 and the other night 27-6. Total Team effort tonight and I agree Harper was the player with the most juice tonight. If he hits a few more open threes it is a much more comfortable win.
My biggest takeaway is this young team is doing the hardest thing left to turn the corner, and that is learning how to win and actually doing it. For years, we would play well at home and even on the road and then unravel and the next thing you know we lost by 10 or more. These last wins by 7, 3, and 8 points were close enough that in years past , we would lose them. Now I think we have turned the corner. That bodes so well for the rest of the year not to mention next year. . I am not going to go predict we will beat Ohio State on Saturday , but if the game is close the last 5 minutes, I really like our chances because the guys are starting to taste winning and want to keep the ugly taste of losing out of their heads . Huge maturity for such a young team, and much of the credit goes to Eugene and Geo who are leading by example and toughness and taking control of communicating with the team in their own huddles.

The defense was outstanding during that 22-0 stretch and reminded me of last year for the first time in a while playing in our conference. If we can keep the defensive intensity up, it will lead to 10 more transition points , making our offense not have to be perfect . If we can cut down on turnovers, which we are capable of doing within a game like tonight and against Nebraska , where we started throwing the ball away almost every other trip down the floor and then only 2-3 turnovers for 20 minutes of play, then. We have a chance every night.

One little nitpick tonight as I thought Shaq Carter was having a real good game and he scored 8 points and had 7 rebounds in only 15 minutes and Coach forgot about him in the second half. We failed to convert 2-3 hi lows with the other Shaq and Myles, and I think Carter could have had 15 points easy tonight . I also thought Caleb should have played more as his size bothered Indiana and he was active all over the court . Again , it is nice to nitpick after a win , especially a three game winning streak win. Really happy for the players, the coach and us fans. I think they can keep it going.


agree with you about the Carter point. I think he brings more consistency than Myles Myles had that great game but somewhat been quiet since. Thats okay he is learning. Might rather have Carter in the game in those situations although he has missed his share of bunnies too. This team needs to do a better job of finishing at the rim, they really just leave too many points of the scoreboard. RU was up 11 and missed a bunch of 1 foot shots that could have made it academic long before the 30 second mark
 
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The two traps on Kiss- anyone see on TV what happened - was there a foul missed by the refs?
 

JonathanAlan

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Still leaping forward....3 wins in a row for the first time in the Big 10, consecutive home wins for the first time in the Big 10, 8th place for the first time in the Big 10, 4 regular season wins for the first time ever, first regular season win over Indiana, two consecutive wins over the Indiana basketball program. Superlatives all around. The seeds are all planted and now we are seeing the buds reaching out all around.

OSU was Pike's biggest win until Nebby became his biggest win, which has now been surpassed by the win over Indiana and to me now his biggest win of his tenure. When games start mattering and each game starts taking on more meaning than the previous then you know that a program is growing and this program is growing ALOT...more than anyone would have dreamed of. Just in 3 short weeks, we went from the up of OSU to walloppings on the road to now getting to the point where each performance is built on from game to game to game. Each win provides another opportunity...you want meaningful game opportunies. By beating PSU and now coming home and defeating Indiana, RU has set itself up for what could potential be yet another meaningful milestone vs OSU on the road. RU isnt going to win every game but its about being in the position for the first time in this conference to actual make noise.

Tonight's game...the way it went, the flat start, the absolute 9 minute **** kicking of Indiana spanning parts of two halves, and then repelling a couple of Indiana late runs by making the plays needed to do to win. This game had all the elements where Pikiell can watch how his players respond to situations...and now as you have seen from last year and early game this year, this team is responding in more positive ways and succeeding in areas where they were used to failing. I am not so sure what it is but this team takes its time to get warmed up. Last week they were down 31-18 to Nebby before going on a 15-2 run to close out the half. Tonight RU was down 29-19 looking dead in the water and closed the half with a 11-0 run. They would then take go on another 11-0 run capping off a ridiculous 22-0 over Indiana over 9 minutes of play where RU was stifiling on defense contesting everything and stepping into the passing lanes for steals that led to transition opportunity and on offense looked smooth passing the ball around and making Indiana fall a few steps behind on defense.

At 29-19 my thoughts in the game thread was that RU was just being outplayed by Indiana. They came ready to play and RU didnt, RU wasnt working hard on the defensive end but in addition they were atrocious handling the basketball. There is one thing that I notice about RU over the course of this season in the Big 10. RU will get shredded in transition. If they turn it over and do not make baskets things get out of hand quickly. We saw it vs Maryland, Minny, and Purdue and in the first half of the Nebby game. Usually turnovers are the cause and thats what was going on early on tonight, 8 RU turnovers....just wasted sloppy passes, you cannot waste possesions like that even early. But then in the last 6-7 minutes of the half, RU settled down, its simple...stop turning the ball over and rebound....and I noted at halftime two key stats....RU had come back to 29-28 and was outboarding Indiana 21-14 and 9-3 on the offensive boards....the other key stat 8 turnovers but again only one in the latter part of the half. What I loved about RU is that their half court defense was very good. Indiana was being forced to run alot of clock and not get open looks and RU was preventing 2nd chance opportunities. I felt good that RU would win if they cut down on the turnovers and rebounded...and thats exactly what happened. It went from an Indiana dictacted pace to one where RU controlled.

Lets just dig in to what went on in that 22-0 run. For starters its a totally asburd silly ridiculous stat....22 to freakin zero...what teams do that against similar competition? Huge step that RU is now capable of elevating their game to a dominant level. Ron Harper Jr was the catalyst for the run in what I believe was his best game and coming out party as a Knight .He had two rebounds, a fast break dunk that got the crowd into it and then a big 3 that made it 29-28 and followed that up with a steal in the closing minute. With Montez struggling and Indiana really clamping down on Geo and Gene, Harper provided the tonic for RU stepping in a big way and outplaying the much hyped Indiana players on both ends of the court. Coming out of the gate in the 2nd half, Harper continued his dominance on the court....a steal which led to Eugene breakaway, rebounds here and there, even a block, Ron just was all over the place...moreso on defense than offense....30 minutes, 4-8 shooting, 5 boards, 10 points.

RU's defense was good in those first 5 minutes that it led to everyone getting involved in the offense, Indiana was scrambliing and on the defensive. Eugene, Kiss, Carter, Geo, Montez all stepped up.... a team effort during that run in converting offensively. By the time the run was over at 27-3, the lead was 46-32 and RU was in total control and the question became could RU close it out. Thats when the leaders step up. Eugene like he has in all these wins was the steadying force to give RU points when they were struggling to get some. Man what does Eugene mean to this team...another double double 14 points, 10 boards and less rust from the injury. It wasnt the prettiest close out but lets be honest here. We know RU can play from behind, but could they play with a big lead. ...and you know what for such a young team they did a pretty good job. Yes we all want more free throws to go, we want more chippies to go down, yes this game could have been over with about 4 minutes to go if RU had made a few extra plays here and there. Still the benefit to a young team of being challenged by a wounded dog and shaking them off even as the lead was cut to just 6 and Indiana had the ball. RU only had one fg in the last 5 minutes but it was an emphatic one..a dunk by Kiss which made up for the Kiss turnover and the Kiss missed foul shots. Credit to him because that shot was big in sealing the deal. 7 points, 4 boards, on 3-5 shooting, Peter know is really settling into the guy we thought he could become, it may be a reduced roll, but its an important one. Then RU simply put the ball in Geo's hand, the guy you want to make foul shots. Geo had a quiet 16 but his impact was huge. 5 assists, did such a great job at running the offense in the 2nd half, one of his best jobs this year. Carter was grabbing rebounds right and left tonight...8 points, 7 boards, 5 of them offensive in just 15 minutes. That is knowing and playing his roll

McConnell, Doorson, Johnson all contributed minutes and boards and little things here and there to contribute to the team win. Montez Mathis...quiet night, he struggled in the first half, Obviously word is getting out about him in league, he was matched up with some tough competition. Struggles like this will always happen at times with freshmen but the good thing to see is that in the 2nd half, Mathis didnt allow his struggles to hurt the team, he settled down and helped out without having to be the man that had to make the plays.

We need sit back and enjoy this. RU is in rarified air right now. This is exactly how you want to see a program being built. We are not there yet but Pike is pushing all the right buttons and this great group of kids are working their butts off to simply grow and get better with each game. So so young, the ceiling is so high for the future. I have no illusions about winning at OSU, its a tough game, we know its tough to win on the road and OSU needs this game for their NCAA hopes but all we can ask is this team keep doing what they are doing and the chips may fall in the right direction. Michigan coming next week..house money game, should be a sick atmosphere at the RAC win or lose vs OSU. The first real game where you will feel the buzz in the era during the Pike era
very fine summary.....I think one of the reasons for the many turnovers at the beginning of recent games is that Rutgers tries to force passes into the paint to get the big guys involved and last night Indiana was collapsing in the paint and grabbing the passes. I don't disagree with the plan since Indiana's strength is away from the hoop but Rutgers just needs to be more careful with its passes. Two players stood out to me the most --I love Harper's all around game . Even when he's missing shots he still contributes with the little things that help the team. Once he sheds some of his excess weight , look out. Big upside with him . Also Myles Johnson. He is so smooth , sees the court well , and really rebounds well. And he's become much more aggressive on defense although he needs to watch the fouls. I also love his upside. Finally , because he's gotten a lot of criticism, kudos to Kiss. He made some critical baskets and contributed valuable minutes. Can't wait for the Michigan game. Driving down from Massachusetts to catch the team.
 
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ClassOf02v.2

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The two traps on Kiss- anyone see on TV what happened - was there a foul missed by the refs?
I think the first one the no-call was correct. Kiss just stood there assuming Indiana would foul him. He invited a double team, which he promptly got. Were they a little grabby? Maybe, but Kiss has got to dribble out of there before the double team comes. Can't just stand there.
 

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BAC excellent post. Spot on. I think you'll get a kick out of this; I went over to the Indiana board and one of their long time posters said, "We have no point guards like they have Geo. Why can't we get a point guard like Geo Baker..." I LOL, because we all know that Geo is a natural 2 guard and playing out of position. Wait until next year and they see two true PG's in Mulcahy and Young come to play and Geo is in his natural 2 guard spot. But I thought it was pretty funny that they wished they had a guard running the point like Geo. Man, winning is fun.

In he second half, My college roommate asked about incoming recruits, I told him about Mulcahy and Young and how Mulcahy is one of the best pass first 1s I have seen, and my buddy said, “We dont need 1s, Geo is a really good 1!” Just a proof point they Geo played really well yesterday at PG.
 
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Halftime and down 9. This is B.S. I don't know what Guirantes did to be in C Viv's doghouse but we desperately need her. For us to shoot 27% is disgraceful. We CANNOT afford to lose at home where we are undefeated. Plus we have Maryland and Iowa breathing down our necks. We need this win. I don't care what the issues are. C Viv. needs to give this team a tongue lashing at halftime and get their heads back into this game.
 
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