Gable Steveson

[MSU158]

Talented at what? Definitely not fighting. He was flat footed hands down and slow as AF. PRO fighters aren't 99.999999% of the planet... I see which group Steveson is on.

Very hard and, quite frankly, EXTREMELY lazy and biased to form that extreme of an opinion based on 10 seconds of a fight. Jon Jones wouldn't be touting him so hard if he didn't see the talent. The training, work ethic and pure tenacity are the issues. NOT, his abilities. An athlete with the wrestling acumen he has could absolutely wreak havoc in the UFC if he put the time in the very top dogs do.

Also, NOTHING you said changes the fact that nearly everyone, including the top UFC fighters get knocked the f out if they get hit the same way. The only difference is the top few have nearly all taken punches similar to that before and have tons of experience fighting that type of style. GABLE HAD NONE. There is a major learning curve and, again, it sure as hell won't be lack of talent that stops him if he doesn't succeed moving forward.

 

[Kohawks99]

That is kind of my point. We have had the best athletes at hwt than we have ever had. Gable probably being the best of all of them He steps outside the wrestling world and has little to no success.

Gable stood above the rest and it makes me think he seemed like such a great athlete because of who he was being compared to. I could be wrong, but it makes me wonder.

Got you now and agree on most all points being made. HWT is deeper than ever, but still lacks the 'best' athletes for the most part.

 

[manatree]

Carlton Haselrig has entered the conversation.

Haselrig had a lot more football experience than Steveson did. Haselrig was originally a football player at Lock Haven before he got hurt and went to UPJ for wrestling.

 

[PennState1985]

Haselrig had a lot more football experience than Steveson did. Haselrig was originally a football player at Lock Haven before he got hurt and went to UPJ for wrestling.

Haselrig got hurt in preseason his freshman year and never played a down of football in college. Became an all pro without ever playing college. Not to mention being a multi time wrestling champion. That's generational talent, and while that is an overused term, in this case it is true.

Edit to add that this sort of proves the point that IF Haselrig had not gotten hurt, he likely would have played football and not wrestled. So the best talent goes to football unless that avenue is blocked for whatever reason.

 

[manatree]

Haselrig got hurt in preseason his freshman year and never played a down of football in college. Became an all pro without ever playing college. Not to mention being a multi time wrestling champion. That's generational talent, and while that is an overused term, in this case it is true.

Edit to add that this sort of proves the point that IF Haselrig had not gotten hurt, he likely would have played football and not wrestled. So the best talent goes to football unless that avenue is blocked for whatever reason.

Yes, I know he got hurt in preseason at LHU. My point still stands that Haselrig had a lot more football experience that Steveson. He had enough football experience to initially go to LHU for football. Steveson never played any organized football until he tried out for the Bills. It’s not just physical talent, it is knowledge and learned skills of the game. I always laugh when people refer to linemen as the unskilled position. Once you hit college and the pros, EVERY position requires a lot of skill to succeed.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

90 percent of the athletic talent at that weight plays football.

Dreshaun Ross being a 10 percenter........

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Which one will Gable be going forward???

The third option people always overlook..........the contemplative stage.

 

[Anon1750875978]

I'm trying to not be a Spooner, but this is a dumb take.....

No one wants to be Spooner!
Not even Spooner.

 

[el dub]

Yeah, I’m just an armchair fan and have never boxed, but watching that fight it seemed like he got touched by the right hand, then put his nose at the ceiling to get away, and got tagged by the left on the chin. “keep your chin tucked.” It seems he needs a little more technique.

I was thinking the same thing.

Talented at what? Definitely not fighting. He was flat footed hands down and slow as AF. PRO fighters aren't 99.999999% of the planet... I see which group Steveson is on.

The 83%, right?

 

[el dub]

That is kind of my point. We have had the best athletes at hwt than we have ever had. Gable probably being the best of all of them He steps outside the wrestling world and has little to no success.

Gable stood above the rest and it makes me think he seemed like such a great athlete because of who he was being compared to. I could be wrong, but it makes me wonder.

All he’s done is wrestle, for the most part, right? Did he ever play football?