FWIW - DB Braxton Clark Article

ThrowBones92

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Bootle, Jackson, Taylor, Clark, and Lee! We just might be alright in coverage this season!
Not to be a downer, but there is only one of those 5 that I trust in coverage right now. At least in man coverage, which seems to be what Chinander would ideally like to play.
 

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Not to be a downer, but there is only one of those 5 that I trust in coverage right now. At least in man coverage, which seems to be what Chinander would ideally like to play.
I know what you mean. They all should be decent in zone coverages but Bootle seems to be the only proven man corner.

I have no idea what the others are capable of in man coverage but they all have good size. You would think they'd all have potential to be decent press corners. If so, Chin could be as aggressive as he wants!
 
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Not to be a downer, but there is only one of those 5 that I trust in coverage right now. At least in man coverage, which seems to be what Chinander would ideally like to play.

Lamar Jackson is basically tied for lowest catches rate allowed with OSUs Okudah last year at 37.9%. Okudah had 37.5%. It’s time we give the man his due. Him and Bootle are both good to great lock down Corners. Jackson struggled early on but turned the corner and now only gave up 37.9% catches allowed percentage. Bootle, Jackson and Taylor are all three legit Corners. I guess some people just hold onto to the past more then I do.
 

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I like the compliments for Clark coming out. This secondary is really starting to take shape (both now and future).
I know safeties caught some flack in the spring from coaches for having maybe a couple bad practices, but I still like their potential.
Hope they shore up the back end and bring the blackshirt impenetrable barrier back.
 

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Lamar Jackson is basically tied for lowest catches rate allowed with OSUs Okudah last year at 37.9%. Okudah had 37.5%. It’s time we give the man his due. Him and Bootle are both good to great lock down Corners. Jackson struggled early on but turned the corner and now only gave up 37.9% catches allowed percentage. Bootle, Jackson and Taylor are all three legit Corners. I guess some people just hold onto to the past more then I do.
Holding onto the past? After watching his footwork last year, I don't trust him in man coverage. He survived as he improved. But to act like he was thriving in man coverage is a denial of what he actually put on tape.
 
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Lamar Jackson is basically tied for lowest catches rate allowed with OSUs Okudah last year at 37.9%. Okudah had 37.5%. It’s time we give the man his due. Him and Bootle are both good to great lock down Corners. Jackson struggled early on but turned the corner and now only gave up 37.9% catches allowed percentage. Bootle, Jackson and Taylor are all three legit Corners. I guess some people just hold onto to the past more then I do.
Holding onto the past? After watching his footwork last year, I don't trust him in man coverage. He survived as he improved. But to act like he was thriving in man coverage is a denial of what he actually put on tape.

I agree. Not sure how anyone could watch LJ and think any differently. He is late on reacting and uses his hands to keep the receiver close. Physical is OK but you also need to use your feet to get into position.

I don’t understand the passing rating stat I guess. If LJ was good at 37% then there were a lot of really bad guys on the team. If he is under 40 then someone else has to be 60 just to get to 50. I know you have more than that involved but you get the drift.

There was a reason he got benched last year. A lot of talk from him the last three years. Time to actually produce.
 
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I agree. Not sure how anyone could watch LJ and think any differently. He is late on reacting and uses his hands to keep the receiver close. Physical is OK but you also need to use your feet to get into position.

I don’t understand the passing rating stat I guess. If LJ was good at 37% then there were a lot of really bad guys on the team. If he is under 40 then someone else has to be 60 just to get to 50. I know you have more than that involved but you get the drift.

There was a reason he got benched last year. A lot of talk from him the last three years. Time to actually produce.
I don’t pretend to know about the stat either, but his percentage isn’t a team percentage, it’s a conference percentage. He had the second lowest percentage against him in conference, so he must have been doing something right, even if it didn’t look like it. Either that or every receiver he faced was worst in conference, which is pretty far-fetched.

Take your pick.
 

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say what you will about his inconsistent performance during his career, but Lamar Jackson sure has the look of a good ballplayer what with all the wristbands and such
 

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I agree. Not sure how anyone could watch LJ and think any differently. He is late on reacting and uses his hands to keep the receiver close. Physical is OK but you also need to use your feet to get into position.

I don’t understand the passing rating stat I guess. If LJ was good at 37% then there were a lot of really bad guys on the team. If he is under 40 then someone else has to be 60 just to get to 50. I know you have more than that involved but you get the drift.

There was a reason he got benched last year. A lot of talk from him the last three years. Time to actually produce.
Exactly. I watched his undisciplined footwork cause him so many problems last year. The number of times his poor technique caused him to be off balance or lose leverage was frustrating. If you're wondering what I'm talking about, YouTube a DB coach or two teaching footwork for jamming receivers at the line or simply playing man coverage. So many people think that you need length and size to succeed a jamming receivers at the line. It has a lot less to do with that and A LOT more to do with disciplined footwork and developing instincts. After you watch someone who knows teach it, then throw on some film and watch Lamar's footwork in zero coverage, especially when he tries to crowd at the LOS. He has a ways to go.

Has he gotten better? Probably.
Do I trust him in man coverage today? No.
Am I cheering for him to become a lock-down cover corner this year? Absolutely.
 

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I agree. Not sure how anyone could watch LJ and think any differently. He is late on reacting and uses his hands to keep the receiver close. Physical is OK but you also need to use your feet to get into position.

I don’t understand the passing rating stat I guess. If LJ was good at 37% then there were a lot of really bad guys on the team. If he is under 40 then someone else has to be 60 just to get to 50. I know you have more than that involved but you get the drift.

There was a reason he got benched last year. A lot of talk from him the last three years. Time to actually produce.
I'm with you on Lamar not being a great man corner. I'd love to see it but not sure if it happens.

Three follow up questions:
#1. Will a pass rush make up for our lack of man to man, coverage skills?
#2. Can we expect an improved pass rush?
#3. How do you feel Lamar Jackson and the other corners rate in zone coverage?
 
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I'm with you on Lamar not being a great man corner. I'd love to see it but not sure if it happens.

Three follow up questions:
#1. Will a pass rush make up for our lack of man to man, coverage skills?
#2. Can we expect an improved pass rush?
#3. How do you feel Lamar Jackson and the other corners rate in zone coverage?

1. Pass rush will always help coverage.

2. Despite all the doubts, I think our pass rush improves a lot this year (still a concern regardless)

3. I can’t rate them specifically, but I think a year learning the system with an ex-NFLer coach will pay dividends this year for the entire secondary
 

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I’ll just drop this here...the coaches think they are in the playoff next year.

what do they think for this year?

2020 schedule includes @OSU, @Iowa, @Wisc, @NW + Penn State home

This year we have all those games at home and we don't play penn state. There is absolutely no reason we shouldn't win the division and be playing for a conference championship this year. Disappointing and an underachievement if we don't.
 
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2020 schedule includes @OSU, @Iowa, @Wisc, @NW + Penn State home

This year we have all those games at home and we don't play penn state. There is absolutely no reason we shouldn't win the division and be playing for a conference championship this year. Disappointing and an underachievement if we don't.

Disagree. We have a shot this year, but we went 4-8 last year, our defense is unproven, we have a long ways to improve upfront on offense and defense to contend in the big 10, we are thin at wr, unproven at RB, and we are one injury away from “do we make a bowl game?” at QB.

We have potential. But to say we underachieved and disappointed if we don’t win the division is a bit much imo. Baby steps.
 

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I'm with you on Lamar not being a great man corner. I'd love to see it but not sure if it happens.

Three follow up questions:
#1. Will a pass rush make up for our lack of man to man, coverage skills?
#2. Can we expect an improved pass rush?
#3. How do you feel Lamar Jackson and the other corners rate in zone coverage?
1) I absolutely think a pass rush protects our DB, regardless of coverage.
2) I have no idea what our pressure will look like with rushing 4-5 defenders, but I'm not hopeful solely on the fact that I don't see a guy on the roster who played last year who consistently won one-on-one matchups in the pass rush.
3) I think we looked really exposed through the Northwestern game. Think about this: We had one decent corner in man coverage, and everyone else was below average. Considering this, and also that Chinander stayed very committed to defending with man coverage, he exposed our weakness in an attempt to get the guys to run the scheme he was most comfortable coaching. I don't have a lot of thoughts yet about Chinander, I just wish he would have moved us out of almost strictly man coverage earlier in the year. If he had done it, I think we win another game or two. With that said, I don't blame him, they were in a phase of discovery with the team and figuring out who could be relied on to execute on game days. I think he and Frost will have a much better idea of how to utilize the pieces on defense this year.

It was either midway through the Northwestern game or after that game that we finally started to mix zone coverages in a with a little more consistency. Prior to doing this, opposing offenses KNEW what we would be sitting in, and the KNEW which defenders they could target bc of poor man coverage skills. It made for pretty easy pickings when our man blitz package had trouble getting home. Remember what Northwestern did to us? They ran crossing route after crossing route. They iso'd Flynn to the tune of 12 catches, 220 yards and a TD. The few times that we sat in a zone on the crossing routes, we had a more success slowing drives by opposing offenses.