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Shimmer003

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Year 3. And our line stinks. There is a thing called a transfer portal and we failed to get a difference maker defensive tackle. Cignetti turns Indiana into a winner in his first year. Rhule is in his magical 3rd year and both of his lines stink. And it wasn’t just against Michigan. Our lines stank against Cincinnati too.
RVP is talented? You know this how? So far he just plays like a slow fat slob who can’t shed blockers.
Cignetti was a unique situation where he was a coach at a highly successful JMU and brought most of those guys with him. People need to quit using a one off situation as the measuring stick because it’s unlikely to be able to replicate that. It’s fine to be jealous. It’s another thing to expect the same here
 

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Cignetti was a unique situation where he was a coach at a highly successful JMU and brought most of those guys with him. People need to quit using a one off situation as the measuring stick because it’s unlikely to be able to replicate that. It’s fine to be jealous. It’s another thing to expect the same here
That is a good point. I had forgotten about that with Cignetti.
But my main point still stands. In the era of the transfer portal and three years in, it is not good that Rhule has failed to produce B1G caliber lines capable of holding up against the better teams.
I am not calling for Rhule to be fired or any such nonsense. Overall he has raised our talent level. But I am disappointed with our talent on both lines. We have some “decent” guys in the pipeline. But nothing that looks like future dominance
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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That is a good point. I had forgotten about that with Cignetti.
But my main point still stands. In the era of the transfer portal and three years in, it is not good that Rhule has failed to produce B1G caliber lines capable of holding up against the better teams.
I am not calling for Rhule to be fired or any such nonsense. Overall he has raised our talent level. But I am disappointed with our talent on both lines. We have some “decent” guys in the pipeline. But nothing that looks like future dominance
Huskers best get OL/DL figured out in quick time, or else NU's fixing to get its *** whipped in 2026.
Yes, it starts out pud with Ohio, Bowling Green and North Dakota. Then things get potentially nasty.

First is Indiana, Maryland, Ohio State, Washington all in Lincoln, then
Illinois, Iowa, Michigan State, Oregon, Rutgers on the road.

We replace MICH, MINN,, NW, USC, UCLA, PSU with IND, OSU, WASH, ILL, ORE, and RUT.

Looks like no more than a 7-8 win season next year.

**Edited from earlier**
 
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dinglefritz

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Huskers best get OL/DL figured out in quick time, or else NU's fixing to get its *** whipped in 2026.
Yes, it starts out pud with Ohio, Bowling Green and North Dakota. Then things get potentially nasty.

First is Indiana, Maryland, Ohio State, Washington all in Lincoln, then
Illinois, Iowa, Michigan State, Oregon, Rutgers on the road.

We replace MICH, MINN,, NW, USC, UCLA, PSU with IND, OSU, WASH, ILL, ORE, and RUT.

Looks like no more than a 7-8 win season next year.

**Edited from earlier**
Opening with Ohio likely won’t be a cakewalk either unless Albin gets poached.
 

dinglefritz

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That is a good point. I had forgotten about that with Cignetti.
But my main point still stands. In the era of the transfer portal and three years in, it is not good that Rhule has failed to produce B1G caliber lines capable of holding up against the better teams.
I am not calling for Rhule to be fired or any such nonsense. Overall he has raised our talent level. But I am disappointed with our talent on both lines. We have some “decent” guys in the pipeline. But nothing that looks like future dominance
EVERYBODY tries to get tackles in the portal. There just aren’t that many of those guys available and our NIL budget in most cases isn’t going to allow us to pay as much as some of the top 10 schools for multiple positions. Yeah maybe we can pay the QB and near top dollar but funding multiple offensive and defensive tackles isn’t going to work. We HAVE to grow some of our own and I believe we’re on our way to doing that.

Yeah we’re still relying on some experienced holdover guys as starters in the O line, but look at the depth chart in the trenches below that. They’re virtually all highly recruited redshirt or true freshmen. Nebraska’s formula for line success has almost always been having junior through 5th year seniors starting in the O line in particular. We landed a starting guard and one of the highest rated OTs in the portal. I’m not sure what else Rhule could do other than what he has done.

The other thing I think people are missing with Cignetti was the level of success he had with Saban at Bama. He’s really not just a recent success guy. He had a high quality recruiting base ready the first day after he left Bama. Those relationships with high school coaches and players jump started his head coaching career.
 

oldjar07

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NU has 4 gimmees. Akron, Houston Christian, NW, and UCLA.
Huskers don't play a good defensive team again until Penn State and Iowa.
We just need the offense to operate well in the meantime.
Any coach that can't get 3 more wins out of those remaining 8 games should quit crowing for a while.
Since when have UCLA and NW been gimmes? NW is actually fairly decent this year. And UCLA always seems to give us problems when they shouldn't.
 
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oldjar07

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Huskers best get OL/DL figured out in quick time, or else NU's fixing to get its *** whipped in 2026.
Yes, it starts out pud with Ohio, Bowling Green and North Dakota. Then things get potentially nasty.

First is Indiana, Maryland, Ohio State, Washington all in Lincoln, then
Illinois, Iowa, Michigan State, Oregon, Rutgers on the road.

We replace MICH, MINN,, NW, USC, UCLA, PSU with IND, OSU, WASH, ILL, ORE, and RUT.

Looks like no more than a 7-8 win season next year.

**Edited from earlier**
I'm more worried about if NU will get its *** whooped this year or not.
 

oldjar07

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EVERYBODY tries to get tackles in the portal. There just aren’t that many of those guys available and our NIL budget in most cases isn’t going to allow us to pay as much as some of the top 10 schools for multiple positions. Yeah maybe we can pay the QB and near top dollar but funding multiple offensive and defensive tackles isn’t going to work. We HAVE to grow some of our own and I believe we’re on our way to doing that.

Yeah we’re still relying on some experienced holdover guys as starters in the O line, but look at the depth chart in the trenches below that. They’re virtually all highly recruited redshirt or true freshmen. Nebraska’s formula for line success has almost always been having junior through 5th year seniors starting in the O line in particular. We landed a starting guard and one of the highest rated OTs in the portal. I’m not sure what else Rhule could do other than what he has done.

The other thing I think people are missing with Cignetti was the level of success he had with Saban at Bama. He’s really not just a recent success guy. He had a high quality recruiting base ready the first day after he left Bama. Those relationships with high school coaches and players jump started his head coaching career.
We got who we wanted out of the portal in Pritchett and Spindler and paid them well. That Donnie boy can't get one of those guys ready to play when he was a starter at a top SEC school is an indictment on his coaching ability.
 
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4.6.3

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The fact we were even in that game is because of Dylan’s talent. Otherwise we got mauled on both lines of scrimmage. We obviously lack talent on both lines. We do not have quality big uglies on either side.
And not scoring early in the game wasn’t just bad luck. It is a trend. We suck in the red zone because our line sucks. Just like our defensive line.
We have big uglies… they just have no athleticism
 
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dinglefritz

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We got who we wanted out of the portal in Pritchett and Spindler and paid them well. That Donnie boy can't get one of those guys ready to play when he was a starter at a top SEC school is an indictment on his coaching ability.
Pritchett started some. A clearly physically talented kid for whatever reason has a problem with false starts. Spindler has been as expected. As I posted, they went after immediate help in the portal. They’ve done everything they could do but when your QB doesn’t have to be accounted for in the run game you have a major problem.
 

knightwxc5000

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Tony white turned Nebraskas defense ar after chinanders disaster but I also think he peaked out , he had issues with getting stops on third and long. Actually butler’s defense did pretty good until Michigans second to last drive I think until then Michigan was like 1 out 6
Busch made huge strides after the Chinander disaster. White maintained, but with a different system.
 
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TruHusker

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Year 3. And our line stinks. There is a thing called a transfer portal and we failed to get a difference maker defensive tackle. Cignetti turns Indiana into a winner in his first year. Rhule is in his magical 3rd year and both of his lines stink. And it wasn’t just against Michigan. Our lines stank against Cincinnati too.
RVP is talented? You know this how? So far he just plays like a slow fat slob who can’t shed blockers.
To be fair, dingle thinks everyone is talented or athletic. I guess that is a true statement to a degree or they wouldn’t be playing football at this level.
 

dinglefritz

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To be fair, dingle thinks everyone is talented or athletic. I guess that is a true statement to a degree or they wouldn’t be playing football at this level.
I played sports with guys who went on to play at Nebraska and a few who went on to the NFL. IF you get a scholarship from a major college football program like Nebraska, you’re very physically talented. Many of the walkons we were taking in the 70s and 80s probably should have been scholarship guys at other P5 programs.

Most of the keyboard warriors on here have never tried to tackle a RB who would even be the 5th string guy at Nebraska. IF you get to be a starter at a P5 program, you’re likely a 1 in ten thousand kind of physical talent. Then there’s the guys we all want who are generational talents like Rozier. One in a million guys.

A frat brother of mine was a backup O lineman at NU in the late 70s. He played intramural basketball a few times with us. I saw him at 275+ pounds take off down the court on a fast break and throw down a 360 dunk. Most guys on here have no idea….
 

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EVERYBODY tries to get tackles in the portal. There just aren’t that many of those guys available and our NIL budget in most cases isn’t going to allow us to pay as much as some of the top 10 schools for multiple positions. Yeah maybe we can pay the QB and near top dollar but funding multiple offensive and defensive tackles isn’t going to work. We HAVE to grow some of our own and I believe we’re on our way to doing that.

Yeah we’re still relying on some experienced holdover guys as starters in the O line, but look at the depth chart in the trenches below that. They’re virtually all highly recruited redshirt or true freshmen. Nebraska’s formula for line success has almost always been having junior through 5th year seniors starting in the O line in particular. We landed a starting guard and one of the highest rated OTs in the portal. I’m not sure what else Rhule could do other than what he has done.

The other thing I think people are missing with Cignetti was the level of success he had with Saban at Bama. He’s really not just a recent success guy. He had a high quality recruiting base ready the first day after he left Bama. Those relationships with high school coaches and players jump started his head coaching career.
And most...not all. Of the OL prospects in the portal aren't guys we want either. For every Ben Scott we have tons of other guys who are depth pieces at best. OL must be built from high schools.
 

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I played sports with guys who went on to play at Nebraska and a few who went on to the NFL. IF you get a scholarship from a major college football program like Nebraska, you’re very physically talented. Many of the walkons we were taking in the 70s and 80s probably should have been scholarship guys at other P5 programs.

Most of the keyboard warriors on here have never tried to tackle a RB who would even be the 5th string guy at Nebraska. IF you get to be a starter at a P5 program, you’re likely a 1 in ten thousand kind of physical talent. Then there’s the guys we all want who are generational talents like Rozier. One in a million guys.

A frat brother of mine was a backup O lineman at NU in the late 70s. He played intramural basketball a few times with us. I saw him at 275+ pounds take off down the court on a fast break and throw down a 360 dunk. Most guys on here have
And most...not all. Of the OL prospects in the portal aren't guys we want either. For every Ben Scott we have tons of other guys who are depth pieces at best. OL must be built from high schools.

I played sports with guys who went on to play at Nebraska and a few who went on to the NFL. IF you get a scholarship from a major college football program like Nebraska, you’re very physically talented. Many of the walkons we were taking in the 70s and 80s probably should have been scholarship guys at other P5 programs.

Most of the keyboard warriors on here have never tried to tackle a RB who would even be the 5th string guy at Nebraska. IF you get to be a starter at a P5 program, you’re likely a 1 in ten thousand kind of physical talent. Then there’s the guys we all want who are generational talents like Rozier. One in a million guys.

A frat brother of mine was a backup O lineman at NU in the late 70s. He played intramural basketball a few times with us. I saw him at 275+ pounds take off down the court on a fast break and throw down a 360 dunk. Most guys on here have no idea….
Yes, but that is true for all big conference schools. And yet, some schools are clearly head and shoulders above others. ALL scholarship athletes are indeed better physical specimens than the average Joe. But they are not all equal. The measuring stick isn’t between a scholarship athlete and the average Joe. The measuring stick is between the scholarship athletes. That is the basis for the whole star system and so on. My claim therefore has never been, nor that of other critics, that crap offensive linemen like Gottula aren’t athletic compared to average people. Our claim is that they are not very talented when compared to the level of athletes on their level.
 

dinglefritz

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Yes, but that is true for all big conference schools. And yet, some schools are clearly head and shoulders above others. ALL scholarship athletes are indeed better physical specimens than the average Joe. But they are not all equal. The measuring stick isn’t between a scholarship athlete and the average Joe. The measuring stick is between the scholarship athletes. That is the basis for the whole star system and so on. My claim therefore has never been, nor that of other critics, that crap offensive linemen like Gottula aren’t athletic compared to average people. Our claim is that they are not very talented when compared to the level of athletes on their level.
Schools like OSU and Oregon right now are getting their pick of the very best talent. We are getting some very talented kids but it’s extremely difficult to predict high level production for all but a few national line recruits. I watch way too much football. Our O line isn’t the only P4 line that struggles when their QB isn’t a run threat.

I was noticing yesterday watching the NFL how many FORMER Big Ten D LINEMEN ARE PLAYING IN THE NFL. I’m not just talking about guys from OSU and Oregon. There’s guys from Purdue etc. Then look at how many of our OTs are playing in the NFL. Zero. I think Rhule is going to change that but other than Pritchett right now it will probably be an OT who is a better fit at guard at the next level. I won’t be surprised if Gottula is that guy. Pritchett has NFL OT physical talent potential. Arm length, hand size, feet etc. Gottula would have to be an interior guy. Soooo I temper my expectations when he’s trying to pass protect against some of the guys and schemes in the B1G. He isn’t going to win every play.
 
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Schools like OSU and Oregon right now are getting their pick of the very best talent. We are getting some very talented kids but it’s extremely difficult to predict high level production for all but a few national line recruits. I watch way too much football. Our O line isn’t the only P4 line that struggles when their QB isn’t a run threat.

I was noticing yesterday watching the NFL how many FORMER Big Ten D LINEMEN ARE PLAYING IN THE NFL. I’m not just talking about guys from OSU and Oregon. There’s guys from Purdue etc. Then look at how many of our OTs are playing in the NFL. Zero. I think Rhule is going to change that but other than Pritchett right now it will probably be an OT who is a better fit at guard at the next level. I won’t be surprised if Gottula is that guy. Pritchett has NFL OT physical talent potential. Arm length, hand size, feet etc. Gottula would have to be an interior guy. Soooo I temper my expectations when he’s trying to pass protect against some of the guys and schemes in the B1G. He isn’t going to win every play.
Is Scott still hanging around with some team?
 

Truewooper

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Not sure why people take this sport this seriously. Fandom sure. Death threat? C'mon people go outside, go fishing, or read a book.
 
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Kato

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To be fair, dingle thinks everyone is talented or athletic. I guess that is a true statement to a degree or they wouldn’t be playing football at this level.
I think everyone is talented. Hell, look at all the lower end teams that seem to push us around or block us out. You can't tell me they all out recruit us talent wise. It boils down to more than just talent. It's a bunch of different thing, such as coaching, heart, plays, give a **** during games, etc. Minnesota's lines were beating us on both sides, and we definately out talent them. What about Cincy?