Frost willing to make changes...

[jlb321_rivals110621]

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"Does anyone have any intel on Chins best man toast and/or wedding gift he gave Frost?"

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tongue in cheek quotes generally have some element of truth"

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"I think it is a reasonable assumption that someone with whom you are familiar, friends with, was in your wedding party is going to get the benefit of the doubt and a much longer leash versus someone with which you have little or no relationship."

"Much in same way fans are more tolerant of losing/underachieving seasons when your coach is a popular former player than say an outsider."


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if these aren't implications, I'm Miles Davis.

Dearest Miles,

which of the above statements do you find to be false?


Best,
jlb

 

[John_J_Rambo_rivals315142]

the best man's speech post was to illustrate he will be less willing to make a change because of his close relationship with Chins not that he absolutely will not

the remainder of the posts have nothing, what-so-ever, to do with whether or not Frost is willing to make changes

deleting posts now, I see.

you've managed to take this from mundane to mind-numbing. the quotes I used weren't meant to have anything to do with your implications of whether or not Frost will make changes. your odd double-talk in this thread did that for me.

just simply showcasing what we'll all continue to expect from you, as clearly stated in the preceding sentence.

hope you feel better soon! xoxo

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

he never said a change wouldn't be made.

instead, he's spent countless posts spelling out exactly why they wouldn't be made between reminding everyone we don't win games.

can't you see the difference?

you clearly stated "countless posts" with regards to whether or not changes would be made
you've provided ..one ... maybe
most people I know can count to more than one .... and wouldn't consider one as "countless"



please forgive me if there is some type of numerical learning disability that I am unaware of

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

I've decided to add in.
I haven't been on the site that long, but jlb is one negative protagonist.
I'm not going after you jlb, but I'm not blind

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

I've decided to add in.
I haven't been on the site that long, but jlb is one negative protagonist.
I'm not going after you jlb, but I'm not blind

i do have a tendency to let the numbers, records, etc speak for themselves
I do appreciate the nuance you and others provide in pointing out all the positives amidst the losing

looking forward to conference championships where we will all be speaking the same language

 

[John_J_Rambo_rivals315142]

you clearly stated "countless posts" with regards to whether or not changes would be made
you've provided ..one ... maybe
most people I know can count to more than one .... and wouldn't consider one as "countless"



please forgive me if there is some type of numerical learning disability that I am unaware of

hyperbole. ever heard of it?

you clearly implied Frost is so close to Chins that he won't do what's needed should it come to that. own it. it's a fair criticism.

this odd double-talk is bizarre, but impressive considering your mouth is so full to begin with.

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

i do have a tendency to let the numbers, records, etc speak for themselves
I do appreciate the nuance you and others provide in pointing out all the positives amidst the losing

looking forward to conference championships where we will all be speaking the same language

So, when you were young, and at Christmas, you had a crappy Christmas the year before, did you look at all your wrapped presents and say what they wont be because of the year before? That those presents can't be good or fun?
This is how you come accross. Sure, reality was what it was, but it doesn't make for a solid,fun,inciteful tomorrow

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

hyperbole. ever heard of it?

you clearly implied Frost is so close to Chins that he won't do what's needed should it come to that. own it. it's a fair criticism.

this odd double-talk is bizarre, but impressive considering your mouth is so full to begin with.

no ... what I implied was that if the defense is identified as a problem, Chins will have a much longer leash, because of their friendship, than say Diaco, had Frost been forced to take him on as his DC

i also stated that this loyalty could either be a good thing (MCBRIDE) or a bad thing (Cosgrove)

do you disagree?

 

[huskerssalts]

If the consensus is that Frost has shown a willingness to make changes in the coaching staff to improve the team, why do posters think he won’t make changes at key positions like QB or center to improve the team if we have better players on the bench?

I am really puzzled by this train of thought... at first it was only QB that Frost would never make a change, but now I am seeing some posters say he would never pull Jurgens from center.

To those who believe this, why do you believe this? Don’t the coaching changes communicate otherwise?

just my thought and opinion here but my guess...those fans are setting Frost up for failure. There will always be open competitions, Frost has said this much. No starting spot is ever locked down and I believe him and that includes Adrain Martinez and his starting QB spot. If Luke McCaffrey keeps growing and getting better and better...he will eventually jump Martinez or push Martinez to be an even better QB. No way does Martinez stay above McCaffrey if Luke’s the better option. GBR

 

[Sodakred]

Did Frost can any coaches? That’s news to me. I though one guy probably left to work for a close friend and the other may have chosen to leave to seek a true OC or HC position. Regardless, Frost never hesitated to criticize the players — while he never said a negative word about coaches.

I believe he is very willing to bench players or “help” them decide to transfer. Not sure if this thread was yet another reference to Frost’s alleged blindness re AM, but I think the AM haters will either see a much better AM or another Qb. (If AM loses the job in Spring Ball, I bet he transfers, which will then cause a massive orgasm for his many critics here.)

BTW, many great Husker teams had qb’s that were no better than AM, but none of those teams were ordinary up front.

 

[spinner4_rivals42045]

Jurgens probably has the most upside on the team and is likely going to be the best O-lineman we’ve had in 20 years so I doubt we need to change him out.

Chins defense heavily improved at the end of the season and if it didn’t, he’d likely be “mutually moving on” too.

QB is always going to be a difficult spot for Frost to replace and even more so here. He was a QB that fans wrongfully wanted replaced. If AM is clearly playing awful next year, with the amount of talent we have at that spot, Forst won’t hesitate to make a switch. Now when your looking at replacing Martinez with Noah or Bunch, it’s a different story.

 

[huskerssalts]

Jurgens probably has the most upside on the team and is likely going to be the best O-lineman we’ve had in 20 years so I doubt we need to change him out.

Chins defense heavily improved at the end of the season and if it didn’t, he’d likely be “mutually moving on” too.

QB is always going to be a difficult spot for Frost to replace and even more so here. He was a QB that fans wrongfully wanted replaced. If AM is clearly playing awful next year, with the amount of talent we have at that spot, Forst won’t hesitate to make a switch. Now when your looking at replacing Martinez with Noah or Bunch, it’s a different story.

100% agreed on all. And it’s a completely different beast when you have a Luke McCaffrey and Logan Smothers on the team compared to two walk ons. He didn’t bring those two 4 star QBs in to sit. If they are better then A Martinez, then they will get the nod. End of story.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

100% agreed on all. And it’s a completely different beast when you have a Luke McCaffrey and Logan Smothers on the team compared to two walk ons. He didn’t bring those two 4 star QBs in to sit. If they are better then A Martinez, then they will get the nod. End of story.

the QB run game utilization will be in large part determined by how McCaffrey develops - if there is little or no drop off expect more designed QB power runs with Mills and/or an H back serving as lead blockers

 

[timnsun]

Did Frost can any coaches? That’s news to me. I though one guy probably left to work for a close friend and the other may have chosen to leave to seek a true OC or HC position. Regardless, Frost never hesitated to criticize the players — while he never said a negative word about coaches.

I believe he is very willing to bench players or “help” them decide to transfer. Not sure if this thread was yet another reference to Frost’s alleged blindness re AM, but I think the AM haters will either see a much better AM or another Qb. (If AM loses the job in Spring Ball, I bet he transfers, which will then cause a massive orgasm for his many critics here.)

BTW, many great Husker teams had qb’s that were no better than AM, but none of those teams were ordinary up front.

Yes, I don’t fully understand those who say Frost won’t have position battles at certain positions because he has his favorites already lined up… And yet these coaches were sent packing. I know you can say that maybe they left on their own, and I thought as much regarding Dewitt… But I don’t see Walters walking away from $700,000 without another job already in hand…

 

[John_J_Rambo_rivals315142]

no ... what I implied was that if the defense is identified as a problem, Chins will have a much longer leash, because of their friendship, than say Diaco, had Frost been forced to take him on as his DC

i also stated that this loyalty could either be a good thing (MCBRIDE) or a bad thing (Cosgrove)

do you disagree?

of course I agree. I didn't see your edit adding the last bit about loyalty. plenty of other examples on both ends there, too.

 

[redli33]

Chin's philosophy meshes with Frosts, there might be other "better" d-coordinators out there but it wouldn't necessarily be the right fit. I think moving forward we will see better defense, not "only give up 150 yards a game" defense, but defense that allows the team to win a lot of games.

 

[Huskerchil]

If the consensus is that Frost has shown a willingness to make changes in the coaching staff to improve the team, why do posters think he won’t make changes at key positions like QB or center to improve the team if we have better players on the bench?

I am really puzzled by this train of thought... at first it was only QB that Frost would never make a change, but now I am seeing some posters say he would never pull Jurgens from center.

To those who believe this, why do you believe this? Don’t the coaching changes communicate otherwise?

Leave Jurgens alone he is a heck of a athlete and he will continue to get better. Offensive line takes time. Frost is building let him build!

 

[timnsun]

Leave Jurgens alone he is a heck of a athlete and he will continue to get better. Offensive line takes time. Frost is building let him build!

I don’t disagree... I was just wondering why people feel like Frost won’t make changes where his favorites are concerned.

Best man will play.

 

[Charlie Marlow_rivals363743]

Best man will play.

Speaking of Best Man, does anyone know who Scott Frost's Best Man was?

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

Speaking of Best Man, does anyone know who Scott Frost's Best Man was?

MD

 

[Charlie Marlow_rivals363743]

MD

Play him!

 

[cubsker_rivals142943]

More stuff about frost never replacing AM2 than Chins. Some pretty cheap shots on AM2. Pretty similar to what we saw with TMart where a handful of people just really have it out for the kid for no real reason other than hes not as good as they would like.

 

[Jimmy Frank]

If the consensus is that Frost has shown a willingness to make changes in the coaching staff to improve the team, why do posters think he won’t make changes at key positions like QB or center to improve the team if we have better players on the bench?

I am really puzzled by this train of thought... at first it was only QB that Frost would never make a change, but now I am seeing some posters say he would never pull Jurgens from center.

To those who believe this, why do you believe this? Don’t the coaching changes communicate otherwise?

You obviously didn’t graduate from the John Madden school of arm chair quarterbacking excellence. RollingLaugh

 

[timnsun]

What’s interesting to me in all this is I don’t think a single person who has said “I hope Frost has a true QB competition” has posted in this thread. They are the ones I wanted to hear from most.

I can only assume they don’t believe that way anymore...

 

[oldjar07]

Nebraska PPG Allowed Ranking:

2017 - 116th

2018 - 88th

2019 - 67th

Oh wow our defense is fantastic!

 

[hedonistimpulse]

Oh wow our defense is fantastic!

Brilliant analysis.

It's an obvious improvement. You can complain because the defense didn't go from terrible to great like it did when Nebraska had generational players like Suh and David, and I know you will, but the notion that Chinander is some glaring weak spot on the staff when his unit has improved significantly both seasons is lazy criticism.