Frost retained....
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He's won 36% of his games. The fact there's even a discussion about bringing him back is mystifying.
Including a weak recruiting base to attract big-time coaches that many seem to point to on this board. The HS football - in that 400 to 500 mile radius - just doesn't exist.
That might not be a bad thing if he can figure out your hot / cold QB situation.
I said it weeks ago, I think after Michigan, if HCSF's team can keep the rest of the schedule I could see TA not firing him.
The schedule should be easier next year and if he gets to winning and a bowl game then recruiting will pick up. And he might rise up after that.
I just hope he gets new OL and QB coaches if he's retained.
If I were TA though and could get Hugh Freeze here I'd pull that trigger in a heartbeat. Pretty sure dude would kill it here with the players Nebraska has.
The schedule should be easier next year and if he gets to winning and a bowl game then recruiting will pick up. And he might rise up after that.
I just hope he gets new OL and QB coaches if he's retained.
If I were TA though and could get Hugh Freeze here I'd pull that trigger in a heartbeat. Pretty sure dude would kill it here with the players Nebraska has.
So, if the idiotic decision comes to pass to retain frost with "significant offensive staff changes"....
1. Who do you get for OC? Do you trust Frost to make that hire? Frost has hired 2 OCs already. Both have failed. The 2nd arguably has helped regress the offense from 2018. At the end of the day, whoever he hires, Scott Frosts offensive identity doesn't work in the big ten. Bet they won't look much different in 2022.
2. Do you extend Frost? Almost have to to show commitment, right? What recruit chooses to come here knowing he's likely a lame duck if you don't extend him?
1. Who do you get for OC? Do you trust Frost to make that hire? Frost has hired 2 OCs already. Both have failed. The 2nd arguably has helped regress the offense from 2018. At the end of the day, whoever he hires, Scott Frosts offensive identity doesn't work in the big ten. Bet they won't look much different in 2022.
2. Do you extend Frost? Almost have to to show commitment, right? What recruit chooses to come here knowing he's likely a lame duck if you don't extend him?
Not sure what this means. As long as we don't cancel games Frost can keep his job?
He just wanted to make sure they only lost by 1 score. Oops it didnt happen this time due to their piss poor play calling
What's crazy about #1 is that it's been 4 years and we still don't have an identity on offense. It's mindblowing.
The recruiting has sucked all year. Why ruin recruiting even more by bringing him back as a lameduck coach so we can ruin 2 cycles instead of 1? It doesn't make sense.
He's won 36% of his games. If he wasn't a former Husker, he would've been canned last year. Giving him another year would just signal to me that it'll be another half decade minimum before Nebraska is relevant in the Big 10 with back to back poor recruiting classes.
Close losses aside, our special teams are beyond bad and have not improved over 4 years. O-Line is consistently poor, QB depth is awful and the starter is too and has gotten worse over 4 years. The talent is there to win at a high level and be at least top 25 and go to bowl games. Frost’s staff is underperforming except for defense. He is unable to make a change which is why he should be shown the door. Next year could be a great one to bring in a new staff with a manageable schedule and start off right… if TA doesn’t see that, he is not a good leader..
I still refuse to believe Smothers is so incredibly bad that we play an already average QB who has both a broken jaw and sprained ankle. If he really is that bad, I hope he isn't on an athletic scholarship at Nebraska. For football.
Northwestern this year was the best game of his entire tenure. Unfortunately we havent won a game since and he should've been fired after last season if we are being honest.
agree - they played well - but NW is 3-5 and 1-4 in the conference.
In his time at NU Scott Frost has a losing record against power 5 teams that finished the season with losing records.
You can talk about all the close games against good teams but if you only look at games against really bad power 5 teams (teams that finished under 0.500) Scott Frost still has a losing record.
If he's back next year, I hope he hires a dedicated ST coach and gets a transfer portal QB who can make reads quickly and consistently throw accurately (or is forced to, if necessary). Two pretty obvious areas.
Total nonsense. Keeping bad coaches is not good for a program. There arent excuses for still being a last place team in year 4. If we are still playing a problem QB that is on the coach.
Yep. We are going to be 1-8 in the big 10 after already having three straight losing seasons. It is truly insanity that people on here want this to continue.
My point is there's a trend here: Callahan, Pelini, Riley, Frost......Hey, let's just keep firing / replacing HCs. Guess what, this isn't the 70s, 80s and 90s and people - especially the young kids today - don't recognize Nebraska as the blueblood it use to be and the firing of the HCs over the last decade or two doesn't help build relationships -especially with kids and their parents. Maybe it isn't the recent string of HCs that's the problem.
It's going to be funny when Dan Mullen is fired after winning over 70% of his games in 4 years, while Frost is retained after losing 70% of his games in 4 years
Yep. And next year has another losing season and then people will say "should have just fired him last year."
Frost will be gone eventually anyways so if it takes another year for it to happen then so be it.
IMO, isn't it about time, the AD is allowed to make those decisions? Green and Carter should zip it.
Ya, no.
TA could use the typical weasel words like, "We'll see how the rest of the season goes and re-evaluate then."
Neither he nor Carter did that, so you're wrong. And Rambo agrees with me.
Callahan was correctly fired and Bo pelini immediately turned it around into a consistent 9 win program. Mike Riley also deserved to be fired. Pelini is the only controversial firing. Frost has had four straight losing seasons and has a horrible recruiting class coming in. If you are worried about recruiting, keeping frost will do far more harm. Keeping him would move us closer to kansas level or maybe worse since even Kansas doesnt keep coaches who have 4 straight losing seasons.
If he would have talked about injuries earlier, would he have been accuse of throwing players under the bus?
Agree on the ST and Oline play. Why else would Frost have personally gotten involved in the Oline? Ya, that position sucks and I wouldn't cry if GA was invited to look elsewhere.
Not sure what the unicorn QB remark means tho.......
Frost has been given a wide berth. If he were just 21-21 instead of 15-27 he'd have plenty of support. Big time winners don't lose at the rate Frost loses at.
Plenty of programs have gone the coaching carousel before finding their guy. Could you imagine Bama sticking with an underperforming Mike Shula bc they were tired of playing the carousel? Would have deprived them of an all time great dynasty.
"Martinez is hurt" happened in:
2018 and
2019 and
2020 and
2021
Oh yeah, how did he end up here?
Overlooked in recruiting because he was hurt his entire senior season in 2017.
Not sure about 2016 or 2015.
So, given that, why in the hell do we not have a QB on the roster outside of Martinez that can play football in the BIG?
Kid is obviously tough, but any coach that couldn't predict he'd get hurt this year is a straight up jackass.
Here's a prediction if he comes back next season: He will get injured sometime early in the season. I know, going waaaayyyyyy out on a limb there. Might want to put in a contingency for that.
2018 and
2019 and
2020 and
2021
Oh yeah, how did he end up here?
Overlooked in recruiting because he was hurt his entire senior season in 2017.
Not sure about 2016 or 2015.
So, given that, why in the hell do we not have a QB on the roster outside of Martinez that can play football in the BIG?
Kid is obviously tough, but any coach that couldn't predict he'd get hurt this year is a straight up jackass.
Here's a prediction if he comes back next season: He will get injured sometime early in the season. I know, going waaaayyyyyy out on a limb there. Might want to put in a contingency for that.
Actually they did at least once, Terry Allen had 5 straight losing seasons Laughing Mangino came in and took them to a bowl game just his second season.