Just pondering frost has a lot of things in common his offense won’t adapt it will work every where just like Bill. Both had terrible defensive coordinators and were to loyal not to fire them. I will say chin is a tad better than cosgrove but you can’t constantly give up first downs on third and long or continue to play a zone to teams that bleed the clock
Frost = Bill Callahan 2.0
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Why does everyone think chins is the problem. His defense has been much improved. When you as an offense keeps turning the ball over and giving them short field position what do you think will happen. Minnesota was 4-14 on 3rd downs yesterday. So idk where you are seeing he keeps giving up these 3rd and longs. The zone yesterday was odd I agree since we played man so well the week before. I'm guessing it has something to do with their rpo and keeping everything in front of them to not
Callahan was a better coach too. His loyalty to Cosgrove and having a toxic AD cost him. In no way should you compare a legitimate football coach like Callahan with an inexperienced and mediocre coach like Frost.
Absolutely. Callahan could recruit his *** off and is a way better coach. He’s seems to do pretty well in the NFL. I think his schemes were complicated and hard for college players to learn. Plus cosgrove was a disaster.
Why isn’t Callahan a head coach today then? If he was such a better coach he’s should be a head coach and he’s not
Very few similarities. The defense has improved immensely this year. They are hitting and the rush defense is stopping people. I am seeing a pass rush with only 3 and getting to the QB.
Frost has to admit his offense sucks and his play calling is worse. I think there was about 30 pass attempts yesterday against the worst rush defense in the B1G and second last in the nation... Really?? And using Washington in between the tackles... Really. AM cannot hit water falling out of a boat, but yet he continues to call passes...
There is bad coaching, then there is refusing to see the obvious.
I wont even go into developing QB's and WR's...
Frost has to admit his offense sucks and his play calling is worse. I think there was about 30 pass attempts yesterday against the worst rush defense in the B1G and second last in the nation... Really?? And using Washington in between the tackles... Really. AM cannot hit water falling out of a boat, but yet he continues to call passes...
There is bad coaching, then there is refusing to see the obvious.
I wont even go into developing QB's and WR's...
Why does everyone think Chins defense has improved? We're worse statistically than last year.
Because they compare Chin’s defense to Frost’s offense. Chins defense looks like a masterpiece compared to our finger painting offense. Winking
I don’t know why people have such an issue with running Wandale between the tackles. Our biggest play yesterday was running him between the tackles.
I've seen many D Linemen use 1 arm to tackle him while engaged in a blocker... He needs a bigger butt
Part of the problem is they're not really engaged by the blocker. I do think Wandale is one of the most overrated players we've had in recent memory. He's short, not a good route runner, not very fast, and has average hands. His biggest redeeming quality is he's fairly quick, but I've heard him called great and elite when he's really just an average player.
Bill Callahan drops a better coach than Frost in his toilet 
every morning. Callahan walked into a roster with almost no talent and in a few short years had NFL level talent on the roster. He thought his college buddy Cosgrove could bridge the gap on defense while he stockpiled talent. He had a bad 2007 season, but at least that team was competitive against the toughest NU schedule in years. Was it an excuse, no, just a reality.
Frost hasn’t prove. He can recruit or win in Lincoln, two things that Callahan was able to do.
every morning. Callahan walked into a roster with almost no talent and in a few short years had NFL level talent on the roster. He thought his college buddy Cosgrove could bridge the gap on defense while he stockpiled talent. He had a bad 2007 season, but at least that team was competitive against the toughest NU schedule in years. Was it an excuse, no, just a reality.Frost hasn’t prove. He can recruit or win in Lincoln, two things that Callahan was able to do.
Actually the defense has been the highlight of the team. If we want good defense and development of players on that side of the ball, hire KF right hand man Parker.
He had a bad 2004 season too. 2 bad seasons and you're out. And yes, that should apply to Frost too.Bill Callahan drops a better coach than Frost in his toilet
Frost hasn’t prove. He can recruit or win in Lincoln, two things that Callahan was able to do.
He's been there a long time, so I don't know if he'd be interested. But some of the best defenses are right here in the Big 10. Why not poach NW, Wisconsin, or Iowa's DC? Offer 1.5 million a year and see if they're interested.
He had Joe Dailey as the only viable option at QB. Not a big Callahan fan, but he deserved a mulligan for 2004.
Nope
Bill Callahan > Scott Frost
Better at Offense and way better recruiter.
The only parallel to consider is if Callahan would of had a better DC than his buddy Cosgrove how would things have turned out? Now it’s not too late for Frost to stop calling plays, turn the Offense over to someone he can trust and manage ALL aspects of the team to get a handle on things.
Bill Callahan > Scott Frost
Better at Offense and way better recruiter.
The only parallel to consider is if Callahan would of had a better DC than his buddy Cosgrove how would things have turned out? Now it’s not too late for Frost to stop calling plays, turn the Offense over to someone he can trust and manage ALL aspects of the team to get a handle on things.
Idk if you really deserve a mulligan when you're making a $1 million+ salary. But he had his mulligan and he had another bad year and he got fired. He also didn't really fit here and I don't know if he even wanted to be here.
For freaking real. The problem with this program right now is the offense. Not even a question. Defense has been solid.
He wanted to be here. He even asked Osborne if he wanted him to replace his Defensive coordinator.
It amazes me to "always" have endless excuses for Clownahan here. His offense wasn't much better than his defense but as he was getting horribly blown out he did rack up tons of yards and scores in the 2nd half garbage time. Yeah, when going against the opponent's water-boys.....he did excel.
The thread compares Frost to the second coming of Callahan. This is simply not true. Callahan was a much better coach in his first three years than Frost. The Frost era so far has been a disaster. A lot of talk but no walk.
The thing about stats is that they’re dependent on the offense. Bad offense leads to tired defense.
I watch the games and what I see is a defense that’s far less of a problem than the offense, which ironically is what Frost came here to excel in.
This conference is full of ****** offenses. Yet several Big 10 teams have been able to produce top 10 defenses lately. We've gotten nowhere close to even sniffing top 30. And this year, we're even worse than last year and people are acting like we're improved. Whatever, if Frost wants to keep his loser DC with him, that tells me all I need to know and I guarantee he'll fail.
Defense doesn't win football games in this day and age. Our D has done enough is 80% of our games to win the game. We suck dick on O and that is losing us the game.
Iowa isn't winning anything of Significance. Go look at the top teams. Yes it helps they have decent defenses but the are putting up loads of points.
Nebraska has had plenty of stops, but then right after that we go 3 and out where good teams go score.... That also helps the D out because teams will have to change what they are doing to keep pace and the breaks their rhythm.
Bama - Scores a ton
Notre Dame - Scores a ton
Ohio State - Scores a ton
Clemson - Scores a ton
A&M - Scores a ton
Florida - Scores a ton
You have a few outliers, but for the most part all of the Top teams have Top Offenses.
You need to compliment for sure, but if we had an elite O, our D has done wayyyy more than enough to win.
They obviously haven't because we haven't won. I don't know how you can say the defense is doing their jobs when they're ranked in the 70's and we're 2-5.