From a lifelong Dem

hinds62

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I’ve already posted about this before, but it’s been awhile.

What I’m referencing is during his first campaign there was a Gold Star family, who were Muslim, and they spoke out against Trump about him being racist and xenophobic blah blah blah blah … they even spoke at the DNC. They were a 100% a DNC plant and were absolutely being used by the democrats …. And Trump fell for it. He popped off in the media and social media, attacking this family. He took the Dems bait …and it disgusted me.

1) it showed incredible weakness IMO
2) the only thing you say to Gold Star family is “We thank you for your sacrifice. Your son/daughter was a hero …., that’s it. Period.

I just don’t care for pompous toolboxes and Trump is the KING of tool boxes.

The Christianity as a prop was a killer for me AND I don’t respect any man who cheats on his wife.

But you’re right, I do like 90% of what he is doing …. I just can’t support him … integrity matters, and he has none.
Do you believe that Biden or Harris has integrity?
 

hinds62

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clempzenbill, you are correct that Trump is the best thing since Reagan and not to "one up" you but I can confirm he is the best thing since John F. Kennedy (except Reagan who was terrific) and I was old enough to have voted for him when he ran for president.
 

fatpiggy

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I’ve already posted about this before, but it’s been awhile.

What I’m referencing is during his first campaign there was a Gold Star family, who were Muslim, and they spoke out against Trump about him being racist and xenophobic blah blah blah blah … they even spoke at the DNC. They were a 100% a DNC plant and were absolutely being used by the democrats …. And Trump fell for it. He popped off in the media and social media, attacking this family. He took the Dems bait …and it disgusted me.

1) it showed incredible weakness IMO
2) the only thing you say to Gold Star family is “We thank you for your sacrifice. Your son/daughter was a hero …., that’s it. Period.

I just don’t care for pompous toolboxes and Trump is the KING of tool boxes.

The Christianity as a prop was a killer for me AND I don’t respect any man who cheats on his wife.

But you’re right, I do like 90% of what he is doing …. I just can’t support him … integrity matters, and he has none.

All fair points. But imagine a world with Kamala freakin Harris as President. We would be in a world of hurt. The economy was in shambles and she is dumber than a rock. No leadership.

I can forgive a man who has cheated. I don't respect it, would never do it. But something like 50% of Americans are divorced so i would think there is a large portion who have cheated. And holding politicians to moral standards, when both sides are abhorrent, has always befuddled me. Rarely is the choice between good and bad. Moreso, bad and not as bad.
 

PAWrocka

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All fair points. But imagine a world with Kamala freakin Harris as President. We would be in a world of hurt. The economy was in shambles and she is dumber than a rock. No leadership.

I can forgive a man who has cheated. I don't respect it, would never do it. But something like 50% of Americans are divorced so i would think there is a large portion who have cheated. And holding politicians to moral standards, when both sides are abhorrent, has always befuddled me. Rarely is the choice between good and bad. Moreso, bad and not as bad.
The question or the statement was about never Trumpers, specifically “Christian” never Trumpers so I was giving context, had nothing to do with Kamala.

What Kamala is or was not is completely irrelevant.
 
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Allornothing

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Today's Trump platform is the moderate to liberal Democrat platform of the 1990's.

I would be very happy if the neocons and progressives go far far away, like Canada........
Canada is too good for most of them. North Korea could be nice. They could inhabit the town north of the DMZ where no one lives.
 
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I’ve already posted about this before, but it’s been awhile.

What I’m referencing is during his first campaign there was a Gold Star family, who were Muslim, and they spoke out against Trump about him being racist and xenophobic blah blah blah blah … they even spoke at the DNC. They were a 100% a DNC plant and were absolutely being used by the democrats …. And Trump fell for it. He popped off in the media and social media, attacking this family. He took the Dems bait …and it disgusted me.

1) it showed incredible weakness IMO
2) the only thing you say to Gold Star family is “We thank you for your sacrifice. Your son/daughter was a hero …., that’s it. Period.

I just don’t care for pompous toolboxes and Trump is the KING of tool boxes.

The Christianity as a prop was a killer for me AND I don’t respect any man who cheats on his wife.

But you’re right, I do like 90% of what he is doing …. I just can’t support him … integrity matters, and he has none.
No one is perfect and President Trump is far from it. However, you like 90% of what he is doing but don't support him? Who are you supporting then? I 100% support him knowing that he has his faults. Some of those are what you mentioned and you and I agree on that.
 

hinds62

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clempzenbill, you are correct that Trump is the best thing since Reagan and not to "one up" you but I can confirm he is the best thing since John F. Kennedy (except Reagan who was terrific) and I was old enough to have voted for him when he ran for president.

Irrelevant
The American people did not think it was irrelevant in the last election!! Keep up the nonsense and the Dems will never win another major election and then they will become irrelevant!!
 

PAWrocka

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The American people did not think it was irrelevant in the last election!! Keep up the nonsense and the Dems will never win another major election and then they will become irrelevant!!
You do you Boo. Integrity matters to me …
 
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PAWrocka

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Perhaps it does but your post don't seem to confirm that.
Because I rightfully believe that a pompous, conceited, disloyal, patronizing, dishonorable, narcissistic, blasphemous huckster lacks integrity????

Say what you want about policy, but Trump is a joke of a man and a horrible person.
 
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Because I rightfully believe that a pompous, conceited, disloyal, patronizing, dishonorable, narcissistic, blasphemous huckster lacks integrity????

Say what you want about policy, but Trump is a joke of a man and a horrible person.
He loves America and is doing what has needed to be done for decades. Enjoy the fruits of the journey of getting a lot of our country's problems under better management.