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V1nufanx4

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Sounds like NU system rolling out free tuition benefit for Nebraska residents whose household income falls below $60k. Wonder how the rest of the B1G Ten institutions are going to feel about that?
 

HUSKERFAN66

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Sounds like NU system rolling out free tuition benefit for Nebraska residents whose household income falls below $60k. Wonder how the rest of the B1G Ten institutions are going to feel about that?
Who's going to foot the bill for that??
 

HUSKERFAN66

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Sounds like NU system rolling out free tuition benefit for Nebraska residents whose household income falls below $60k. Wonder how the rest of the B1G Ten institutions are going to feel about that?
Source??? Thanks
 

Kleitusbpn

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If it's for doctors, nurses, comp sci and a few others I'd be ok with this.

Talk to me when it is. 85% of degrees aren't worth the money spent on them.
 

SeaOfRed75

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USC already did this for people making under 80k.

Higher education costs have gotten WAY out of hand, so something definitely needs to be done. The U can still make bank off the kids coming that receive free tuition by getting 12k in room and board, books, and other fees from them.
 

Harry Caray

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USC already did this for people making under 80k.

Higher education costs have gotten WAY out of hand, so something definitely needs to be done. The U can still make bank off the kids coming that receive free tuition by getting 12k in room and board, books, and other fees from them.

That's true. Universities have added a ton of different "fees" that end up being more expensive than tuition itself.

And look on the bright side, this will only help our walk-on program:

 

HUSKERFAN66

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Finally got a chance to read the article. They think it will only add 1000 more students to the current program. Fees, room and board extra....big chunk. More of a feel good program than anything. Let's get the football season going. We need the coin
 

leodisflowers

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This stuff is such horseshit. We need to go back to college being an exclusive place to go. If you don't have the money, grades or test scores, you go to trade schools or enter the work force. I'm young, and I feel like all of this free **** is absurd.
 
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Harry Caray

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This stuff is such horseshit. We need to go back to college being an exclusive place to go. If you don't have the money, grades or test scores, you go to trade schools or enter the work force. I'm young, and I feel like all of this free **** is absurd.

You still have to have the grades and test scores to get into UNL, this is just helping the poorer families financially. A lot of poorer students go to community college first for 2 years and then transfer to UNL anyway (to save money), so this is just giving them the opportunity to go to UNL for all 4 years.

The program will pay for itself with the additional fees & housing costs, as well as expanding the future alumni donation base.
 

50Front

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This stuff is such horseshit. We need to go back to college being an exclusive place to go. If you don't have the money, grades or test scores, you go to trade schools or enter the work force. I'm young, and I feel like all of this free **** is absurd.

timeo danaos et dona ferentes Winking
 

leodisflowers

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You still have to have the grades and test scores to get into UNL, this is just helping the poorer families financially. A lot of poorer students go to community college first for 2 years and then transfer to UNL anyway (to save money), so this is just giving them the opportunity to go to UNL for all 4 years.

The program will pay for itself with the additional fees & housing costs, as well as expanding the future alumni donation base.

So the tax payers then get to pay for them to go get a Art History degree or a standard business degree? No thanks... Yes you will have some success stories, but I don't believe in free **** to this level.
 

oldjar07

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This stuff is such horseshit. We need to go back to college being an exclusive place to go. If you don't have the money, grades or test scores, you go to trade schools or enter the work force. I'm young, and I feel like all of this free **** is absurd.
Sure throw a bunch of unskilled people out into the workforce when most of the economy already has little use for them. I couldn't think of a better idea if we wanted to become uncompetitive in the world economy.
 

leodisflowers

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Sure throw a bunch of unskilled people out into the workforce when most of the economy already has little use for them. I couldn't think of a better idea if we wanted to become uncompetitive in the world economy.

You don't know how the world functions then. We have a huge need for construction workers in all kinds of trades, but can't fill any positions and will give them all kinds of training. These positions pay a pretty decent wage, but congrats on your Business Admin degree. This isn't just construction, so maybe you should go back and rethink your statement.
 

oldjar07

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If it's for doctors, nurses, comp sci and a few others I'd be ok with this.

Talk to me when it is. 85% of degrees aren't worth the money spent on them.
Doctors need 10 years of schooling just to be able to do something with their degree. At least most other disciplines can be out in 4 years. And yes I believe computer science will be the most in demand major in the coming years, but there are others that are important as well.
 

tdierberger

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If it's for doctors, nurses, comp sci and a few others I'd be ok with this.

Talk to me when it is. 85% of degrees aren't worth the money spent on them.
Agree with the worth of some degrees. I’d add engineering and math to the list of worthy recipients.
 
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USC already did this for people making under 80k.

Higher education costs have gotten WAY out of hand, so something definitely needs to be done. The U can still make bank off the kids coming that receive free tuition by getting 12k in room and board, books, and other fees from them.
USC is a private school. They can do what they want, as it does not impose additional burdens on taxpayers
 

mgbreeze

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How do some of you people muster the energy for the endless outrage? There's about 58,000 enrolled in the university system, and we're talking about helping 1,000 low income kids go to school. I make a lot of money, and I had nothing starting out. I borrowed every cent. I'm glad a kid somewhere like me might have the opportunity to not start out with a noose around their neck. Somewhere in my dreams there is a version of life where I don't have to listen to people whine about taxes every day.
 

oldjar07

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You don't know how the world functions then. We have a huge need for construction workers in all kinds of trades, but can't fill any positions and will give them all kinds of training. These positions pay a pretty decent wage, but congrats on your Business Admin degree. This isn't just construction, so maybe you should go back and rethink your statement.
Half of construction workers are temporary and you wonder why noone wants to work there. Sure there probably is somewhat of a labor shortage, but maybe the industry needs to rethink itself a bit too if they want to attract more workers.
 

cubsker_rivals142943

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Doctors need 10 years of schooling just to be able to do something with their degree. At least most other disciplines can be out in 4 years. And yes I believe computer science will be the most in demand major in the coming years, but there are others that are important as well.

A 4 year degree is not needed to be a programmer. A motivated, intelligent person could be useful with a few months of high intensive training.
 

Harry Caray

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So the tax payers then get to pay for them to go get a Art History degree or a standard business degree? No thanks... Yes you will have some success stories, but I don't believe in free **** to this level.

I'll go out on a limb and say those students who want to major in Art History probably aren't cut out to be construction workers or welders or plumbers anyway. And I doubt most smart students from poor families will want to major in something like that. It's mostly rich trust-fund babies that get those worthless degrees.

But regardless, they will make connections at the university that will likely allow them to get a decent job and be a productive member of society, rather than being a welfare recipient for the rest of their lives. It's more about who you know than what you know. Plus, UNL has a great entrepreneurship program, and not having student loans might allow many of these students to stay in Nebraska and start their own business.
 
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They should limit the majors that this applies to. No gender studies or European art majors or any of those other worthless majors.
 

oldjar07

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Finally got a chance to read the article. They think it will only add 1000 more students to the current program. Fees, room and board extra....big chunk. More of a feel good program than anything. Let's get the football season going. We need the coin
Yeah, students are usually already able to get help with tuition. It's room and board that's the real problem and not nearly as many resources for students to get help in that area.
 

leodisflowers

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Half of construction workers are temporary and you wonder why noone wants to work there. Sure there probably is somewhat of a labor shortage, but maybe the industry needs to rethink itself a bit too if they want to attract more workers.

You don't understand the construction industry then, so just stop. It also isn't just the construction industry that can have labor shortages. There are plenty of unskilled jobs that need to be filled.
 

leodisflowers

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I'll go out on a limb and say those students who want to major in Art History probably aren't cut out to be construction workers or welders or plumbers anyway. And I doubt most smart students from poor families will want to major in something like that. It's mostly rich trust-fund babies that get those worthless degrees.

But regardless, they will make connections at the university that will likely allow them to get a decent job and be a productive member of society, rather than being a welfare recipient for the rest of their lives. It's more about who you know than what you know. Plus, UNL has a great entrepreneurship program, and not having student loans might allow many of these students to stay in Nebraska and start their own business.

If they have the test scores and the grades then why don't they have to take out loans like the majority of us? They will already probably get financial assistance. We are going to disagree, but I value your side. For me, I don't like giving free stuff away to only certain income levels. If you want to try and go you need to realize the financial risk you are taking on. There are plenty of kids who have to go struggle with life because they chose to go to college that their parents probably make a little more than 60K. Hell even 100K isn't that much money anymore for a household.
 

oldjar07

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I'll go out on a limb and say those students who want to major in Art History probably aren't cut out to be construction workers or welders or plumbers anyway. And I doubt most smart students from poor families will want to major in something like that. It's mostly rich trust-fund babies that get those worthless degrees.

But regardless, they will make connections at the university that will likely allow them to get a decent job and be a productive member of society, rather than being a welfare recipient for the rest of their lives. It's more about who you know than what you know. Plus, UNL has a great entrepreneurship program, and not having student loans might allow many of these students to stay in Nebraska and start their own business.
I had to take art history as an elective and I learned a ton from it. With all the image and speech recognition software these days, art majors and English majors, etc. can play a big part in that. Heck there's probably going to be a bigger shortage of skills in those fields than there is plumbing or welding. I'm not saying construction welders or plumbers or welders aren't important. They are. But a lot of the fields people on here like to dish on will likely play just as big if not a greater role in the coming years than the trade industries.
 
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Yeah, students are usually already able to get help with tuition. It's room and board that's the real problem and not nearly as many resources for students to get help in that area.
Until the shutdown there were plenty of part time jobs available to college students. My daughter worked 3 sometimes 4 jobs (until the shutdown) to pay for her room and board. She could live at home if she wants to, but wants to live off-campus with some friends and is willing to put in the work to do it. There are plenty of scholarships available for those who want to put in the work to find them and apply for them.
 
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This stuff is such horseshit. We need to go back to college being an exclusive place to go. If you don't have the money, grades or test scores, you go to trade schools or enter the work force. I'm young, and I feel like all of this free **** is absurd.
So if your parents worked trades and didnt set you up for the future, or even know how to succeed themselves, you are doomed to the same? College is really just expensive, drawn out job training. Doctors and the like should be heavily vetted but the more general degrees like say business, do not need to be as exclusive
 

oldjar07

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You don't understand the construction industry then, so just stop. It also isn't just the construction industry that can have labor shortages. There are plenty of unskilled jobs that need to be filled.
Oh really, then why did this shortage of workers in the construction industry and other trade industries seem to coincide with the decline of union labor? It's pretty simple. People will work in construction if the pay and labor conditions get better.
 

oldjar07

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Until the shutdown there were plenty of part time jobs available to college students. My daughter worked 3 sometimes 4 jobs (until the shutdown) to pay for her room and board. She could live at home if she wants to, but wants to live off-campus with some friends and is willing to put in the work to do it. There are plenty of scholarships available for those who want to put in the work to find them and apply for them.
A lot of scholarships are for tuition only. So making the cost of tuition free does little to help students who also need to pay for room and board.
 

sparky4986

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I really don't think this will last more than a couple years. These are extraordinary economic times right now. I wish they would extend this to trade schools.