Purdue fouled up 3 pts with 5.4 sec left. How would you play this out with 5.4 sec left? Personally i liked it but purdue coach didn't sub in big for block out and rebound and it cost him. I would have put in the big guy ( Williamson ?) In. Hug mistake
Fouling with 5.4 sec left
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I think it's the way to go. Look at it this way:
If you don't foul, all the opposing team has to do is make a three.
If you do foul, the opposing team has to
1. Make the first free throw
2. Miss the second and get the rebound
3. Secure a very difficult offensive rebound and still make a contested shot to tie/win the game.
Too many moving parts needed for success in the second option.
That said, in the case of the Duke game, the best thing to do would have been to concede the shot to Zion and make it a foul shooting game with Falls still in the game to get the rebound off foul line misses.
If you don't foul, all the opposing team has to do is make a three.
If you do foul, the opposing team has to
1. Make the first free throw
2. Miss the second and get the rebound
3. Secure a very difficult offensive rebound and still make a contested shot to tie/win the game.
Too many moving parts needed for success in the second option.
That said, in the case of the Duke game, the best thing to do would have been to concede the shot to Zion and make it a foul shooting game with Falls still in the game to get the rebound off foul line misses.
I would do it. Like you said, you have to have your best rebounders in the game
If they fouled with 5.2 seconds left, they would have won the game.
Kind of an old debate but I’m against it. Maybe with less than 3 seconds left but even then I want my team to play defense the way they’re trained. Don’t foul, make them take a tough 3.
Plus you have the advantage of knowing they will never shoot a 2, so you can really guard the perimeter.
Plus you have the advantage of knowing they will never shoot a 2, so you can really guard the perimeter.
I think 5s is a lot of time left to foul...3s would've been my goal.
I’ve always thought this. The only way you don’t go in to overtime or win is a four point play, or an intentional foul and then tap out for a three.
The foul and tap is way more likely than the four pointer. Play it out.
It would have been a solid strategy had it not been for the fact that they had been getting worn out on the offensive glass all night. They lost the game because they gave up 3 shots on nearly every possession.
What folks underestimate is the strategy options of the team that IS fouled when you have 5 plus seconds AND a to left. VA could have made both, fouled, had 5 seconds left, a TO, and forced Purdue to hit 2 FTs and STILL had time to win or force OT. Fouling is a good strategy but maybe with less than 4-5 seconds.
I think the strategy looks a lot better if that last shot doesn't go in. Then this debate is moot.
We said the same thing as the clock ticked down.. "you have to foul right?". It was the art play that just had everything go them.
Yeah, I would have made both if I were Virginia, but it worked so that’s all that matters.
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As a general approach it may have a good chance to succeed.
Know your opponent. Who on UVA can get their own good look from 3 in a matter of a few seconds? They have to run off screens to even find a three.
UVA would have gotten a desperation attempt.
Now if the roles were reversed and there was a Carsen Edwards with the ball you foul.
As for UK, UH or any game where the throw in is with 5.4 or so then after the ball is inbounded, foul after a second or so.
The key to the whole thing was the intentional FT miss. Maybe Painter thot/hoped they would make both FTs and play the foul game which would have been a certain losing strategy.
Give credit to Bennett for knowing what to attempt even though it was desperate.
Know your opponent. Who on UVA can get their own good look from 3 in a matter of a few seconds? They have to run off screens to even find a three.
UVA would have gotten a desperation attempt.
Now if the roles were reversed and there was a Carsen Edwards with the ball you foul.
As for UK, UH or any game where the throw in is with 5.4 or so then after the ball is inbounded, foul after a second or so.
The key to the whole thing was the intentional FT miss. Maybe Painter thot/hoped they would make both FTs and play the foul game which would have been a certain losing strategy.
Give credit to Bennett for knowing what to attempt even though it was desperate.
See, I don’t think making both free throws was a certain losing strategy. I believe there were actually 5.9 seconds left. Make both, cut it to 1. Foul immediately, 5 seconds left. Purdue makes both, you still have 5 seconds to advance the ball for a three. We’ve seen this work a million times. If Purdue misses one, you don’t even need a three, and you still have 5 seconds to get a good shot with almost 100% certainty that you will have possession.
By missing the second free throw, there was a big risk that Purdue would rebound the ball, and you could go down 4 with less than 5 seconds left. Almost an impossible situation. It worked because UVA had near perfect execution, but it was the riskier play, imo. They were very fortunate to force overtime, regardless of strategy.
I prefer to trust my defense and rebounding if I can trust them.
I think I like it down one or two more than three. Three unless you foul on a made three the worst thing that can happen is overtime and odds of even doing that aren't great.
Less than three I'm more concerned about time to respond to a score.
I think I like it down one or two more than three. Three unless you foul on a made three the worst thing that can happen is overtime and odds of even doing that aren't great.
Less than three I'm more concerned about time to respond to a score.