For those who wanted Cignetti

[Hans81]

I don't know... I still feel the fan base is always stuck in instant gratification mode... and because of that we push off good coaches that could end up figuring it out. You could get lucky and find another Cignetti, but the odds are not good. Stop gambling and let this current coach earn his freaking money. I also don't believe extending Rhule's contract was a bright idea in the least. He has done nothing to deserve that IMO

Back to the "pushing out good coaches before they have a chance to figure it out" talk... Take Fred Hoiberg for example

First 3 years... if football he would of been burned at the stake before being let go with his output. Sometimes you just got to let coaches work and figure it out

2019/20 - 7-20
2020/21 - 7-25
2021/22 - 10-22
2022/23 - 16-16
2023/24 - 23-11
2024/25 - 21-14
2025/26 - 6-0

Here is the thing... the light clicked on and Fred figured out how to compete. The Bryce McGowens high end players did not fit his system... at least not what he figured out would work to compete in the Big 10. Yes, he was a good player, but as a coach you have to get players that work for your system not just high talent. Is Fred Hoiberg amazing and a hall a fame coach currently, no! Is he making Nebrasketball better, your damn right he is.

Rhule is not Cignetti, but he also is not as bad as we feel he is after that egg he just left in Happy Valley. Remember this team is the youngest team in the Big 10, and Iowa is not Penn State athletically. We do not match up well with them, but I for one am not ruling them out. It is at home and Iowa is just roided up afterthoughts, that slow the game down to their playing style. They do not have players Penn State does... or USC... or Michigan. However they do have Minnesota type talent. Just have to learn to not play conservative against slow boring *** conservative teams when we have explosive talent over them.

lol…your last paragraph where you lump all of Iowa’s athlete’s as just “roided up afterthoughts” is so funny it’s pathetic.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

One thing Cignetti had that NO coaches had in past history, is immediate transfer eligibility and the larger roster limit. He's picked a veteran transfer QB to fit his system, brought in a slew of transfers many from his old school. All eligible immediately. It was a Deion Sanders type transition.

I would like to see what Cignetti could have done with 85 scholarships and only jucos & incoming 18 year olds eligible to play that first season. Does he take 20 transfers and let them sit out a year? Play the first season with 65? No way.

We'll never really know, will we? Some guys can evaluate talent in athletes, staff and frankly, some can just flat out coach. Those select few like Bob Stoops, Nick Saban and Urban Meyer can take over down an out programs, take one year to shape it and win the national title in year two. Again, some coaches can just flat out evaluate.

In any day and age, Cignetti will "find" that outstanding QB from Miami (OH) or California and next thing you know, the kid turns into a viable Heisman candidate because Cignetti knows the difference between a Jeff Sims and a Fernando Mendoza. This ability to evaluate likely permeates throughout his entire selection process.

Maybe in a couple years, we will find that much of Cig's success has to do with outstanding minds on his staff in terms of evaluation, etc. Kind of like Hawkins at Boise State who had great success, only to find as time went along, the real brains of the operation was Chris Peterson who went on to a great career at both Boise and U of Washington.

Having said that, it's not likely IND is ready to make a super serious play on a national title in year 2 of his regime. As much as anything, IND does not have the long standing football tradition of an OK, LSU, BAMA, FLA or OSU. That's what makes Cigs rise that much more impressive, regardless of nowaday rules.

I do believe in any era, coaches like the 3 I mentioned, along with your TO's, Barry Switzers, Bobby Bowdens, Peter Carrolls all just have that something extra that 99% of other coaches lack. As those coaches reached near their 60th or so birthday, they rarely made a mistake at the key QB position.

And Katie bar the door once they began to quit trying to outscore everyone and got serious about upgrading the talent level on team defense. The OSU defense is what now separates them from the most serious contenders. Just like TO had to track OU's great talent base that resulted in NU's rise to the top just to compete with a juggernaut in their own conference, the same thing will eventually drive IND to trying to close that gap with the Buckeyes.

NU has a coach trying to stay with the IA, MINN, ILL's of the football world, the reach to the top 4-5 in the conference are beyond his grasp and ability to narrow that gap. The results will be slightly above .500 football and a meaningless low level bowl game. Whooppee!!

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

I've said it so many times, coaches like Cignetti would never be hired at Nebraska because they are not big name coaches that the BIG DONORS WANT and those big donors are the ones that really put the the head men in charge at Nebraska.

Indiana had nothing to lose and took a man who took that program to heights we only dream about now. Until those donors at Nebraska get their heads out of the clouds and understand college football is a different animal now we will continue to spin our wheels.

 

[Poster FKA schuele]

One thing Cignetti had that NO coaches had in past history, is immediate transfer eligibility and the larger roster limit. He's picked a veteran transfer QB to fit his system, brought in a slew of transfers many from his old school. All eligible immediately. It was a Deion Sanders type transition.

I would like to see what Cignetti could have done with 85 scholarships and only jucos & incoming 18 year olds eligible to play that first season. Does he take 20 transfers and let them sit out a year? Play the first season with 65? No way.

WTF difference does it make how Cignetti would have done in some other era of college football?

This reminds me of the people who argue that Tom Osborne couldn’t have won without partial qualifiers, or under any number of other hypothetical situations.

 

[Nuts McClanahan]

WTF difference does it make how Cignetti would have done in some other era of college football?

This reminds me of the people who argue that Tom Osborne couldn’t have won without partial qualifiers, or under any number of other hypothetical situations.

Call down, Jackass. Who pissed in your Wheaties?

 

[moralvictories]

because one has a real resume,
google it

Scott Frost had a real good resume too, .

 

[BleedRed89]

because one has a real resume,
google it

Uck that quote of his in particular is his most cringe. He clearly lifted it from the Hulu series about WeWorks Founder. Dudes most known quote was shopper from the hour he probably spent with his wife that week.