For Those Guaranteeing a Rebears Win on Monday

121Josey

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You should listen to Rebear Mike Huguenin from GridIron Now on B.Bounds.

Listen Hear
(from beginning)

Bo has the wench on fast-retract.
Bo say, "François has never taken a snap, FSU is down to their 3rd string center"
"So is this basically a pick'em for you, Mike?"
 
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karlchilders.sixpack

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Interesting

I'm not guaranteeing an OM win, but

Dude say MGK will pitch for 350. But if fill in QB throws for 150 , FSU wins.

I expect him to throw for more than 150, but expect 2 or more turnovers.

Homers are gonna be homers.

Great weekend ahead. Gonna be fun.

Tee it up.
 

msstate7

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"The task of replacing Tunsil becomes even more daunting when you compare last year's offense with and without him—a comparison made convenient by his seven-game NCAA suspension. Against Power 5 opponents (and Memphis) without Tunsil, the Rebs averaged 2.7 yards per carry, allowed three sacks per game and went 2-2. Against Power 5 foes following Tunsil’s return in Week 8, Ole Miss averaged 5.3 yards per carry, surrendered 0.8 sacks per game and went 4-1 down the stretch of the regular season (and were a fourth-and-25 away from 5-0)."



http://www.tomahawknation.com/2016/...d-to-know-about-ole-miss-but-were-too-lazy-to

Then factor in losing their 2nd best olineman (cooper)
 

121Josey

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But they got Stringfellow and Myles Hartsfield. Those guys have the Midas touch.**

Freezus' offense plays right into the strengths of the FSU defense. FSU isn't going to play base defense against a team that can't run the ball.
 
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This guy was on today in Houston also. Kelly this, Kelly that, and OM has unreal receiving corps. Blah Blah Blah.
 

11thEagleFan

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I wouldn't say that I'm guaranteeing a Rebel win, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if they won. Having a good senior QB masks a lot of weaknesses on the OL, and their line doesn't look that bad to me. They do have a really good receiving corps, don't know how anyone can deny that. Don't know anything about their running game. Don't know much about their defense other than it looks like they have some playmakers on the DL and in the secondary. I'm pretty unfamiliar with FSU, but I know Cook belongs in the conversation with Fournette and McCaffrey as the nation's best. I'd expect OM to stack the box against him and make FSU throw. I'd be surprised if it's not a close game.
 

121Josey

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I'd expect OM to stack the box against him and make FSU throw. I'd be surprised if it's not a close game.

Did you see #3 TUNS v. #25 UF last year? Expect more of the same.

You want to stack the box and throw against freshmen safeties and sub-par linebackers? Praying for a tropical storm on Monday would be a better strategy.
 

MaroonNation

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I wonder if Stanky Finger will be able to control his desire to do "the secret handshake" on defenders who tackle him?
 

HD6

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Just saying, be careful. I think FSU will win, but I won't be shocked if Ole Miss wins.
 

121Josey

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Just saying, be careful. I think FSU will win, but I won't be shocked if Ole Miss wins.

What is that "1" in 8-1? T.C.U. Be careful is right.

The only game they were an underdog in 2015 was Bama.
 

RingN2012

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You don't just lose 3 first round picks and not drop off a little.
I don't think people understand the impact that Tunsil, Nkemdouche and Paidwell had on the Bears team the last few years.
Remember when we lost McKinney and P smith and how pedestrian our defense looked the year after?
Did anybody see the difference in YPC and sacks given up when they had Tunsil vs when they didn't? The numbers were staggering.
Teams not named Bama and Ohio State, etc can't lose that many top end players and expect to not suffer some the next year
 

msstate7

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You don't just lose 3 first round picks and not drop off a little.
I don't think people understand the impact that Tunsil, Nkemdouche and Paidwell had on the Bears team the last few years.
Remember when we lost McKinney and P smith and how pedestrian our defense looked the year after?
Did anybody see the difference in YPC and sacks given up when they had Tunsil vs when they didn't? The numbers were staggering.
Teams not named Bama and Ohio State, etc can't lose that many top end players and expect to not suffer some the next year

Tunsil wasn't the only nfl OT they lost. Cooper was drafted also. Elston and Hilton were big losses too. Elston and Hilton combined for 140 tackles, 17.5 TFL, and 6 ints... That's a lot of production
 

johnson86-1

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Tunsil wasn't the only nfl OT they lost. Cooper was drafted also. Elston and Hilton were big losses too. Elston and Hilton combined for 140 tackles, 17.5 TFL, and 6 ints... That's a lot of production

The production understates it though with respect to the big time players. They had a LT that they could put out there and basically not worry about pressure coming from his side. They at least spent a lot of last year without that benefit, so it won't be a complete shock. I think Kelly is going to actually miss Treadwell more. It's a huge benefit to a QB to have a WR that basically has to be doubled, or if not, that you can just throw the ball in his direction and count on him to either win the fight for it or at least prevent an interception. They still have good receivers so maybe they'll be good enough as a whole that it will make up for not having that one safety outlet (or maybe Stringfellow will be similar).

NKemdichee was similar in that teams pretty much had to account for him. Even though he took a whole lot of plays off, teams still had to be prepared each play for him to blow up or blow by one of their Olinemen.
 

fishwater99

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Tunsil wasn't the only nfl OT they lost. Cooper was drafted also. Elston and Hilton were big losses too. Elston and Hilton combined for 140 tackles, 17.5 TFL, and 6 ints... That's a lot of production

They will be down on defense(especially in the middle upfront and lb's) and the OL is a lot weaker this year. I just don't see where all Hype is coming from outside of Oxford.
 

Drebin

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The production understates it though with respect to the big time players. They had a LT that they could put out there and basically not worry about pressure coming from his side. They at least spent a lot of last year without that benefit, so it won't be a complete shock. I think Kelly is going to actually miss Treadwell more. It's a huge benefit to a QB to have a WR that basically has to be doubled, or if not, that you can just throw the ball in his direction and count on him to either win the fight for it or at least prevent an interception. They still have good receivers so maybe they'll be good enough as a whole that it will make up for not having that one safety outlet (or maybe Stringfellow will be similar).

NKemdichee was similar in that teams pretty much had to account for him. Even though he took a whole lot of plays off, teams still had to be prepared each play for him to blow up or blow by one of their Olinemen.


I've said it before but I really believe Treadwell is going to be missed much more than just for his production and demanded double teams. That guy set the edge a lot on bubble screens and wide runs - he was a beast of a blocking wideout. They don't have anyone in that mold, and I think that's going to impact their ability to hit the quick screens and run wide. They have talent at WR, no doubt, but they won't be as physical of a group as they were last year, and that's a big deal when you factor in the lost physicality on the OL, DL, and LB. I really thing Ole Miss is going to be a punch and judy football team this year.
 

121Josey

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Wouldn't think so since the 1 would have happened in the regular season. Not sure who it would have been to.

If we're removing bowl games, then FSU is 5-0 against the spread in last 5 (underdog against Clemson).
 

121Josey

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Didn't it coincide with the return of tunsil? Was it Werner's play calling or the return of one of the best LTs in the country?

Toss-up. Their offense sucked for two months after the Bama game. T$UNil wasn't an immediate remedy.
 

Digging dog

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But if they get blown out of the water, I believe there is gonna be a few State fans call in sick on Tuesday.
 
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