For those chasing RPI in basketball...

[missouridawg]

Currently, UK, USCe, UGA, Arky, and OM are top50 RPI teams. None of our OOC games were top50.

Which means we are 1-0 against top50 with 6 more games against top50, assuming the teams stay where they're at (which they won't).

TN is 60 (2 games left)
Bama is 66 (1 game)
Vandy is 69 (1 game)
UCF is 78
AU is 81 (1 game)
aTm is 82
We are 97
Lehigh is 99

We will likely need a 14 or 15 win SEC season to get in the NCAA.

 

[msstate7]

Boise state is 64. Need them to win MW

 

[57stratdawg]

It's virtually 0% we earn the bid in the reg season. Tuesday is a must win if it's not 0%.

We are playing for a double bye in the SECT, IMO. Try to sneak into the SECCG is our best bet to make the NCAAT.

 

[Croom's knee socks]

I hate RPI. Teams like ole miss find ways to manipulate it every year.

 

[wpmusm]

Read an article the other day that said the NCAA might scrap it as early as next year's season.

If that happens, how does that affect other sports (particularly baseball, but also hockey and soccer)?

 

[Go Budaw]

Read an article the other day that said the NCAA might scrap it as early as next year's season.

If that happens, how does that affect other sports (particularly baseball, but also hockey and soccer)?

Personally I am against scrapping it unless they plan to replace it with some other more accurate statistical assessment. The RPI has its flaws, but generally serves as a fairly accurate TOOL when comparing a group of teams that don't have a lot of separation. Tool is the key word, because it should not be the only criteria utilized. However for a while there in baseball it seemed to be the only thing they were looking at when deciding regional hosts / national seeds.

The biggest flaw is the home / road correction factor is severely skewed. 1.33 multiplier for 1 road win or home loss and 0.67 multiplier for one home win or road loss is too big of a swing. Should be closer to 1.1 / 0.9 or 1.15 / 0.85. Or it shouldn't be used at all. It really makes no sense anyway because whenever resumes are compared, they always break out the road / neutral records of the two teams in addition to the RPI. It then becomes redundant that the road / neutral record is even mentioned since it is already in the formula.

 

[Shamoan]

I remember standburys bubble teams. Seemed like one year the selection committee would keep us out because of rpi one year when we would have a higher rpi, but comparable everything else, then other years, they would say we had a nice rpi, but a poor sos or Ooc slate with comparable everything else . Basically, with that may outs, the selection committee could give any reason consistent or not to justify their decision.

 

[ShrubDog]

Haha you said NCAA

 

[engie]

Obviously they are going to replace it. Have already met with Sagarin, Pauga(KPI), KenPom, and Alamar(Espn BPI) to discuss a new system.

 

[missouridawg]

Haha you said NCAA

The team that took the court the last 3 games is as good as everyone in the league except U.K. and UF. We are going to get 11 or 12 wins in SEC play this year barring injury. We are going to have to avoid a let down game or three to have a shot at the NCAA.

Sorry for being optimistic.

 

[gymdawg.sixpack]

I see your point. But whats to account for teams that are clearly completely diffetent teams in march/apr than they were in nov/dec? Lets say we go 12-6 and finish 3rd in the league and make the title game but lose to uk in a close game. That puts us at 24-10. Now if im a committee member i look at the youth and growth of this team to equate. Theres gotta be some consideration for a team thats this young and theyre growth to even get to the bubble.

 

[missouridawg]

I see your point. But whats to account for teams that are clearly completely diffetent teams in march/apr than they were in nov/dec? Lets say we go 12-6 and finish 3rd in the league and make the title game but lose to uk in a close game. That puts us at 24-10. Now if im a committee member i look at the youth and growth of this team to equate. Theres gotta be some consideration for a team thats this young and theyre growth to even get to the bubble.

The committee can really do what they want. In the last they've been fairly arbitrary on what was important to them and they'll likely continue to be pretty inconsistent. A team like us that has the built in excuse for early season struggles might be looked at favorably if we can get to 15 SEC wins as well as scare the bejesus out of UK twice.

The key though, is we've got to be the second place SEC team overall with 15 or more wins. No real room for a cold streak. And we really need to be UsCe both times and win at Bama. Beating UF will be a big help too

 

[Drebin]

The team that took the court the last 3 games is as good as everyone in the league except U.K. and UF. We are going to get 11 or 12 wins in SEC play this year barring injury. We are going to have to avoid a let down game or three to have a shot at the NCAA.

Sorry for being optimistic.

I agree with you about the last three games. Unfortunately that team will not take the court every game. They are freshmens...and they are going to struggle at times.

 

[ShrubDog]

This team has a Long way to go at being consistent. If we make the NCAA I will be very happy. If we don't, I will not be upset because I never expected to.

 

[missouridawg]

This team has a Long way to go at being consistent. If we make the NCAA I will be very happy. If we don't, I will not be upset because I never expected to.

Im not expecting it either. But it sure is going to be fun watching it unfold the next 50 days. Heaven forbid we get excited about an MSU sport around here.

 

[johnson86-1]

I see your point. But whats to account for teams that are clearly completely diffetent teams in march/apr than they were in nov/dec? Lets say we go 12-6 and finish 3rd in the league and make the title game but lose to uk in a close game. That puts us at 24-10. Now if im a committee member i look at the youth and growth of this team to equate. Theres gotta be some consideration for a team thats this young and theyre growth to even get to the bubble.

Been a long time since I've paid attention for obvious reasons, but at one time the committee did some mock selections with journalist present to let them see the process and how a team finished and whether early struggles were due to injuries supposedly played a pretty big role when they got down to the final selections and final seeding decisions.

If that's still the case, surely being so young and finishing strong would grant us some leeway for a weak RPI and early season struggles. Not sure we'll be close enough for it to matter, but if we are the third best SEC team or neck and beck with the third best team and all the bubble teams are weak, maybe we'll have a shot even if our RPI looks too weak.

 

[MSUDC11]

23-7. 14-4 overall. Go 2-2 against UK, UF, and SC. Have the other loss be on the road against a Top 50 team.

That's the ticket right there if you want an NCAA bid. Extremely tall task, but I legitimately think this team has a chance in pretty much every remaining game.

I know Kentucky is Kentucky, but we took a bad team to Rupp Arena last year and lost by 6. It was a one possession game in the final minute. They are better this year, but obviously so are we. There's a chance we get whipped, but I would not be shocked at all if we make a real game out of it. Vandy is 8-9 and they made that a really close game. We can too, and if the threes are falling we might have a chance to steal one.