Follow up question about NCAA & ACT Fraud

[Indndawg]

So is cheating on ACT 100% in the NCAA's purview? Or, is parts of the investigation handed off to another agency to delve deeper?

 

[mount lefroy]

So is cheating on ACT 100% in the NCAA's purview? Or, is parts of the investigation handed off to another agency to delve deeper?

It was the ACT people that first notified the NCAA of the irregularities.

 

[rem101]

No, that can't be right. I thought Leo Lewis turned them in for the ACT fraud.**

 

[thatsbaseball]

Man, they are really going to rue that day. Bye bye ACT.......

 

[LandsurveyorDawg]

I guess all our chilrens will have to take the SAT now.

 

[codeDawg]

The cheating is a NCAA concern because of the institution's involvement in it. There are lots of other parties that also care, including law enforcement.

 

[Drebin]

So is cheating on ACT 100% in the NCAA's purview? Or, is parts of the investigation handed off to another agency to delve deeper?

It is 100% in the NCAA's purview if it was done to allow a prospective student athlete to meet minimum eligibility requirements. Remember the litmus test for potential violations....any time a prospective student athlete receives a benefit that is not open to all students, it's considered a violation.

It also could have the attention of other agencies, but no question the NCAA is interested in it.

This is the part of the investigation that I think people forget about....and it really could bring a hammer with it. I think Ole Miss thinks because it was several years ago and a couple of staffs ago that the impact will be minimal. But this is the essence of cheating. David Saunders got an 8 year show cause for his involvement in this at ULL with a couple of students...and that was discovered during the Ole Miss investigation. The scope of this is much bigger for Ole Miss, and Saunders probably shared the goods. Lest we forget, this is all connected back to Freeze as the recruiting coordinator back then, too.

 

[willi13]

Another question:

If athlete is allowed on campus by school and is deemed ineligible by fraudulent ACT/SAT manipulation and athlete is given PELL grant money, is this a federal crime issue?

 

[BiscuitEater]

So is cheating on ACT 100% in the NCAA's purview? Or, is parts of the investigation handed off to another agency to delve deeper?

If a student cheats on the ACT, then in the NCAA's view, he is not an 'eligible' student athlete. Playing an ineligible athlete is an NCAA violation.

See Memphis basketball under John Calipari.
Memphis president Shirley Raines said shortly after the NCAA's announcement that the school is appealing what she called an unfair penalty.
"We know the rules," Raines said. "We did our due diligence. We did everything we could to determine the student-athlete was eligible and that the rules were being followed."
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In May, the NCAA accused Memphis of several major infractions under Calipari, including a fraudulent SAT score by a player, later revealed to be Derrick Rose, and providing close to $1,700 in free travel to Rose's brother, Reggie.

 

[RightOfCenter]

It is 100% in the NCAA's purview if it was done to allow a prospective student athlete to meet minimum eligibility requirements. Remember the litmus test for potential violations....any time a prospective student athlete receives a benefit that is not open to all students, it's considered a violation.

It also could have the attention of other agencies, but no question the NCAA is interested in it.

This is the part of the investigation that I think people forget about....and it really could bring a hammer with it. I think Ole Miss thinks because it was several years ago and a couple of staffs ago that the impact will be minimal. But this is the essence of cheating. David Saunders got an 8 year show cause for his involvement in this at ULL with a couple of students...and that was discovered during the Ole Miss investigation. The scope of this is much bigger for Ole Miss, and Saunders probably shared the goods. Lest we forget, this is all connected back to Freeze as the recruiting coordinator back then, too.

Interesting. This got me to thinking so I happened to look at the Beav's Wiki page. Why was he the Assistant AD in 2005?

 

[boatsandhoes]

Their cheating apparently knows no bounds (in a doc holiday voice), but yah it's always someone else's fault. And of course Hugh freezes only does things the right way.**

Modern day bernie madoff of college athletics they are, and somehow it's all leo Lewis'/the ncaa's fault

 

[Bulldogg31]

They will be vacating every win that the ACT cheaters played in, and one of them was there four years.