Foglesong should be our guest picker.

[biguglyjoe]

If you don't understand why, then you haven't suffered enough.

 

[tenureplan]

If you think that's the only reason

you haven't suffered enough. You really have to pity the blue hairs. They might not make it through this.

 

[Digging dog]

Maybe he can write it in the sky from his airplane.*********
Btw HELLLLLL NOOOO!!!!!!!

 

[biguglyjoe]

I'm joking of course, but he doesn't get the credit he deserves in my opinion.

 

[uptowndawg]

I'm assuming that you weren't a student during his tenure? Because most that were have a completely different opinion of him.

 

[dickiedawg]

I was, and I give Doc a lot of credit.
He pissed a lot of folks off, possibly most of all the staff of The Reflector. Everyone on staff at the time hated him.
Honestly, though, no amount of dead daffodils and doo-doo colored paint could tip the scales after he canned LT.
Does anyone think we'd be where we are today if that hadn't happened?

 

[Drebin]

I'm joking of course, but he doesn't get the credit he deserves in my opinion.

Doc was a bit polarizing, but he definitely deserves credit. We had this mush-mouth, aww shucks administration in place and he came in and shook things up. Culture change is rarely popular. He definitely set things in motion, however. We were able to dump LT, and then hire an AD who wasn't afraid to flex his muscle. The result was Croom/Polk gone, and Mullen/Cohen hired. Stricklin stepped in and has maintained. Fellas, we played for a national championship in baseball in 2013 and we are in the top three in the country in football in 2014. We have a shiny, beautiful, new football expansion. We have the best baseball facilities in the country on their way. If you can't see it, you're blind.

And it all started with Doc.

 

[Digging dog]

My biggest complaint I have with him was what he did during Gameday. If he wasn't doing a flyover, he was in shorts on the sideline. He needed to be in a coat and tie and working the alumni. This was during a time when we desperately needed extra financial support.
He did release LT though.****

 

[uptowndawg]

Yea, the LT firing was huge. But anyone not named J. Charles Lee would have done the same.

 

[Drebin]

Yea, the LT firing was huge. But anyone not named J. Charles Lee would have done the same.

I don't think so. LT was here for a while, and he had connections in the SEC office. He had powerful backing. It wasn't easy throwing him to the curb. It took someone who didn't give a **** what people thought about him to do it.

 

[johnson86-1]

He pissed a lot of folks off, possibly most of all the staff of The Reflector.

As a rule of thumb, a University President could do much worse than "Do whatever will piss off people at the student newspaper the worst." I will say that at least when I was there, the people at the Reflector were actually pretty normal and not particularly terrible, so this might not be a good rule at MSU, but it would be a pretty good rule at most places.

 

[PiedmontDawg]

In his defense, being from WV, dressing up for him WAS wearing a pressed red MState athletic polo, a nice pair of jorts, and shin high white socks with athletic shoes.

 

[Seinfeld]

And let's not forget that LT's firing was ridiculed by certain outside media. I could be wrong, but I think it was Ron Higgins that wrote an entire article about how MSU fans were delusional and unappreciative of what he had done. Basically, he predicted that MSU athletics would take off on a downward spiral from the day that we let LT go. He really nailed that one

 

[dickiedawg]

As a rule of thumb, a University President could do much worse than "Do whatever will piss off people at the student newspaper the worst." I will say that at least when I was there, the people at the Reflector were actually pretty normal and not particularly terrible, so this might not be a good rule at MSU, but it would be a pretty good rule at most places.

The story with him was supposedly he called, basically his first day, with a letter he had written to introduce himself. He said he wanted it front and center, and the editors said no, it has to go in the opinion section.
He apparently got bent out of shape and would not comment on any story for the paper (nor would anyone in his office). The scribes were bitter evermore.

 

[AHSDawg]

^^It definitely took an 'outside' person to clean house^^ No one with MSU ties was going to buck the good ol' boy system that has ruled the roost for 30+ years.