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that is, of course, 100% a lie.

And when Trump “closed” travel from China, he still let more than 50,000 more people in from China. This is after resisting the calls from his advisers to close travel from China for more than a week.

And then he did the same thing with Europe.

so, wrong again. I know it’s a hard thing for conservative snowflakes like you, but maybe try reading for once instead of just parroting Fox News’ ********.
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Former Vice President Joe Biden now says he supports travel bans to contain the Chinese coronavirus after all – after he previously called the China travel ban issued by President Donald Trump in late January “xenophobia.”

Deputy campaign manager Kate Bedingfield told CNN on April 3 that Biden “supports travel bans that are guided by medical experts, advocated by public health officials and backed by a full strategy,” adding, “Science supported this ban, therefore he did too.”

Was that before or after looking at a poll that said Trump would do a better job dealing with this crisis than Biden? Asking for the potentially hundreds of thousands of American lives President Trump saved by acting decisively in the early days of this pandemic at a time Biden was hysterically complaining about “reactionary” travel restrictions.

And why wasn’t Biden the first one explaining his new position on this issue? Why tell us now? And why pretend he was in favor of it all along when he never supported it at the time? Why not just admit he was wrong?

Biden not only didn’t support the ban, he explicitly opposed it, repeatedly saying it was unscientific, even though it turns out it ultimately was backed up by the science. Which, you don’t need a medical degree to understand. It’s just common sense. Travel restrictions are just another form of social distancing from those traveling from the hotspot at the time, which was China, to prevent the American people from coming into contact with others who had been exposed to the virus, just as not going to work if you’re sick might.


On Jan. 27, Biden wrote an op-ed published in USA Today, perhaps anticipating the upcoming travel ban and blasted President Trump’s calls in 2014 for travel restrictions during the Ebola outbreak as “reactionary.”

Biden wrote, “I remember how Trump sought to stoke fear and stigma during the 2014 Ebola epidemic. He called President Barack Obama a ‘dope’ and ‘incompetent’ and railed against the evidence-based response our administration put in place – which quelled the crisis and saved hundreds of thousands of lives – in favor of reactionary travel bans that would only have made things worse.”

On Jan. 31, President Trump issued the travel restrictions from China. One day after the travel restrictions were put into place, Biden said in Iowa, “We have, right now, a crisis with the coronavirus… This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia – hysterical xenophobia – and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science.”

Biden added, repeating a line from his USA Today oped: “Diseases have no borders, they have no borders.”

On March 12, the very same day President Trump implemented further travel restrictions on Europe, leaving little doubt about his thoughts on the travel ban, Biden said, “Banning all travel from Europe or any other part of the world may slow it but as we’ve seen will not stop it. And travel restrictions based on favoritism and politics, rather than risk, will be counterproductive.”

That might’ve been the first crack in Biden’s façade, when he first acknowledged that travel restrictions might slow the virus down. Still, he didn’t support the policy. As it turns out, slowing the virus down was exactly what President Trump’s policy did – buying valuable time for the U.S. to put in place mitigation and race to bring desperately sought medical supplies to areas of the country now experiencing surges of new cases and hospitalizations.

The same day, Biden Tweeted similarly, “A wall will not stop the coronavirus. Banning all travel from Europe — or any other part of the world — will not stop it…”

Is that so, Joe? Then why are the doctors telling those who are sick to stay inside? Why are patients at hospitals kept in separate rooms behind glass?

You know who wouldn’t stop the virus? Joe Biden, that’s who. We know Biden wouldn’t have done the travel ban in late January, because he told us every chance he got."
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You know who wouldn’t stop the virus? Joe Biden, that’s who. We know Biden wouldn’t have done the travel ban in late January, because he told us every chance he got. He called it “reactionary,” “hysterical,” “xenophobic,” and “counterproductive.” All he has done up to this point is mock and deride President Trump’s efforts.

In fact, until Bedingfield told CNN that Biden now supported the travel restrictions, nobody in the world ever knew Biden had changed his position. Bedingfield said Biden’s “reference to xenophobia was about Trump’s long record of scapegoating others at a time when the virus was emerging from China,” but not a reference to the travel ban. Uh-huh.

Finally, on April 5, Biden completed his about-face on the issue on ABC News with George Stephanopoulos, who must have simply forgotten to roll the video tape of Biden blasting the travel ban. Biden said, “[Trump] indicated that I complimented him on dealing with China. Well you know 45 nations had already moved to keep – to block China’s personnel from being able to come to the United States before the president moved. So it’s about pace, it’s about the urgency and I don’t think there’s been enough of it.”


Perhaps ABC or CNN should bring Biden back to explain all his other statements away, or even better, to point out a single statement made in January or February supporting the travel restrictions. You know, when they might’ve still made a difference.

Ironically, Biden added, “I think it’s important to follow the science. Listen to the experts. Do what they tell you.”

But if President Trump had done that, there might have been no travel ban from China at all. We’d still be taking flights from there. At the time, Trump was acting against the academic models, according to Acting Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security Ken Cuccinelli, who testified to the House Homeland Security Committee on March 11.

Cuccinelli stated, “Our understanding at the time we recommended it to the president and we had that discussion with him was that the academic model suggested not to do that. So, our advice was contrary to the then existing models as it was described in the task force. We made the recommendation anyway. The president was well aware of that sort of contrary indication and he adopted the recommendation and we universally now believe we tremendously benefitted from adopting those measures.”

It was Trump who proved wrong whatever model said travel restrictions wouldn’t work. Even Biden admitted, albeit a month and a half too late, that such a travel ban might slow the virus down.

That bought us time – time we never would’ve had Biden had been president.

Leadership does not come in a textbook. It’s not something you can look up. It requires instincts and an ability to take decisive action. In politics you don’t a second chance to act decisively. Trump acted decisively. Biden failed. To say he supported it all along is a monstrous lie.
 

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Coronabro alert !
Totally the opposite, I'm probably mostly republican, and hope Trump gets re-elected (although he is an absolute bufoon), but lets deal with facts, not Tray Travis tweets.
 
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jeffcoat

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No one is looking at any true facts. Media is broken. CDC is political hacks. Truth is coming one day I hope. Good news is not acceptable to Liberals on here or anywhere.
oh, sorry i thought you were @areeves for a second.
 
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BTW, you ignorant snowflake, in case you do, for once I your life, want to read up instead of just buying Fox News’ BS hook, line, and sinker, here you go:

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/07/trumps-misleading-comments-on-biden-and-the-coronavirus/
Nothing in there really refuted anything. It put the liberal spin on Joes actual statements since we can’t erase those. It’s nothing more than his campaign’s explanation. That’s your fact check? I find it humorous that someone who obviously sucks down CNN as if it’s 100% unbiased is lecturing others on their news sources. CNN couldn’t be anymore on team liberal. They didn’t even cover Trumps Coronavirus Briefing until the gotcha questions started. Open up your mind a little.
 
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Nothing in there really refuted anything. It put the liberal spin on Joes actual statements since we can’t erase those. It’s nothing more than his campaign’s explanation. That’s your fact check? I find it humorous that someone who obviously sucks down CNN as if it’s 100% unbiased is lecturing others on their news sources. CNN couldn’t be anymore on team liberal. They didn’t even cover Trumps Coronavirus Briefing until the gotcha questions started. Open up your mind a little.

That’s from factcheck.org, as non-partisan a source as you will find. But crazy snowflakes like you would rather just regurgitate Fox News garbage than have an original thought.

and this quote shows what a crazy partisan you are. CNN covers all of Trump’s crazy press conference all the time. Liberals like me hate CNN because they cover his lies without calling him on it. Yet, because they don’t slobber all over his balls like Hannity does, idiots like you call them “100% team liberal.”

I hate to break it to you, but it’s not gotcha when Trump talks about injecting people with bleach. Or says he wants to slow testing down, or he says 100 times that COVID will just magically disappear. Neither CNN, nor anyone else made that up.

He’s. Just. That. Stupid.

And I 100% guarantee that my mind is more open, that I’ve not only thought about this more than you have, but researched it way more than you have.

But you’ve already proven that, haven’t you?
 

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I wonder if clay Travis will tweet about Florida today now that they have reported 11000 new cases and 171 deaths
Official numbers below:
http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partners/covid19_report_archive/state_reports_latest.pdf
Page 2 Chart 1.
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Cases are not going up anymore which is good news even if they aren't declining. A flattening of the curve is a good thing, even if at a high number. The next part is coming back down from there. Same thing that NYC went through. Same thing SC is going through. The deaths are not good but we all know by now that they lag cases. They too will flatten and begin to decline.

I'm not saying things are great there but the outlook compared to cases spiraling out of control and growing every day is most definitely improving and can be viewed as a good sign and positive news.
 
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I wonder if clay Travis will tweet about Florida today now that they have reported 11000 new cases and 171 deaths

Percent positive also worse today. Unsurprising. Great news, eh? Maybe we need to see more than one day of data before we celebrate.

--Mr. DT
 
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Percent positive also worse today. Unsurprising. Great news, eh? Maybe we need to see more than one day of data before we celebrate.

--Mr. DT
My thoughts exactly! I would love to see this virus go away as fast as possible. But it absolutely irritates the sh^& of me to see so many bozos who jump on one day of better stats to claim it's going away. This has been and will continue to be something to monitor on a weekly total basis, and right now is not good in FL, SC, or about every other state.
 

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Trump should seriously contemplate moving the convention about every 3 weeks and watch the media freak out about cases in that state and then switch it again and again.
 

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Trump should seriously contemplate moving the convention about every 3 weeks and watch the media freak out about cases in that state and then switch it again and again.
Yep because FL having 1250 deaths from Covid-19 in the last 9 days is nothing to be worried about. Just the media. LMAO
 

Tiger Guru

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Yep because FL having 1250 deaths from Covid-19 in the last 9 days is nothing to be worried about. Just the media. LMAO
you're that type.... the ones who believe everything they hear. that really makes me LMAO..
 

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Expect a spike tomorrow. Florida cases have been notoriously low the last few Tuesdays and Wednesdays compared to the surrounding days. If % positives remain low or dip again, that'll be something good

Source: Been watching the FL cases closely because I have a scheduled trip to Disney coming up.

-- Mr DT

Been to Florida twice already, including Universal and Disney.

That mask sucks in 99 degree heat and air you literally wear due to humidity

But my wife and kids love it so we go

You will be fine
 

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Saw the title and thought maybe Ohio man had surpassed Florida man in the news.

Am disappoint.
 

CU91ENGR

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you're that type.... the ones who believe everything they hear. that really makes me LMAO..
Actually, no, I research info and talk with people who would know. I'm not one of "you", who simply spread unfounded conspiracy bullsh^& on here. Your president has made lying ok to do, and he has no issue spreading these lies every chance he gets.
 

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Actually, no, I research info and talk with people who would know. I'm not one of "you", who simply spread unfounded conspiracy bullsh^& on here. Your president has made lying ok to do, and he has no issue spreading these lies every chance he gets.
Ok gotchya. You researched and determined the President made lying ok. Nice! Damn your a genius.
 

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Hey, clay Travis, where's your tweet today? Florida with nearly 13000 new cases today. What an idiot!
 

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Bumping to confirm that back when this thread began it really was good news and flattened 2 weeks ago with a downward trajectory since. It's going as many ITT thread said it was trending following the data. The numbers bounce up and down but the trend line is and has been in a good direction from a case standpoint. Media won't report that......And yes we all know deaths lag....

Newest numbers just released.
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Page 2 Bottom Chart.
http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partners/covid19_report_archive/state_reports_latest.pdf

Peak cases was July 11 @15k cases.

9 days straight under 10k cases and trending downward.

8/1 7K cases. 1/2 of the peak.
8/1 62 deaths. Peak was roughly 250.
8/1 9.28% positive. Peak was about 20%.

8/2 4,800 cases. 1/3 of the peak.
8/2 73 deaths. Peak was roughly 250.
8/2 9.09% positive. Peak was about 20%.