Florida be struggling...
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That's there current commitment list for the class that is going to sign February 2015? That's not really right is it? Can they only sign like 15 or something?
People make too big of a deal of transition years. At this point Florida needs to get back to their roots, and recruit some solid native Floridians to round out their class. Guys who want to be there, will work hard and be the future leaders. Should be easy to find some guys to sign and/or flip from neighboring places like USF or UCF, or maybe even Miami/Florida State.
I have no clue if McElwain will succeed there, but I do know that it will depend on the type of offense he runs. If he wants to go Saban-style like when he was OC at Alabama, he will probably fail. He is going to need to build around the speed that Florida geographically possesses.
I have no clue if McElwain will succeed there, but I do know that it will depend on the type of offense he runs. If he wants to go Saban-style like when he was OC at Alabama, he will probably fail. He is going to need to build around the speed that Florida geographically possesses.
I've never understood why, after all the success they had with Meyer and Mullen, they were so dead set on abandoning the spread and running an old-school offense. Stupid.
I agree. I don't get it. Florida fans long for the days of Spurrier and the Fun and Gun, but the spread with Urban and Dan was much more successful than they ever had been. Do not understand it.
Remember Spurrier's fun 'n' gun too. I do not if it is so much the spread, or just basing the offense on speed. Either way, speed kills at Florida. See the link below, it is no coincidence that hardware rolled in when a coach came in that catered to the available talent in that area. I believe their first taste of any success period was when they recruited Spurrier to play there, mainly because they would be throwing the ball around more than other teams.
http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/florida/championships.php
I know there is no one size fits all in sports, but there are a few pretty iron-clad rules. One of them is that speed resides in Florida. It almost makes Foley appear downright foolish.
They wanted to distance themselves as far away from the Urban regime as possible which of course we see was a mistake. Their program is in better shape, McElwain is set up for success, and I agree with Hammer about getting back to their roots and I'm betting they will.
And then meyer punished saban at a different school this year.
Had cam not got in trouble at Florida, meyer is most likely still at Florida imo
Urban Owned Saban 3 weeks ago
The whole Saban scared Urban out of the SEC is dumb.
Big Ten is about to get very interesting with Urban, Franklin, and Harbough.
The whole Saban scared Urban out of the SEC is dumb.
Big Ten is about to get very interesting with Urban, Franklin, and Harbough.
Those 3 are in the same division of the big 10 too including mich st. That may be the best division in college football soon
Foley has hit a couple of home runs with the Donovan and Meyer hires. But he's made a lot of foolish decisions too.
Bottom line to me is that I do not think Meyer liked being at Florida. He has always been a great coach, and early on I think he was motivated by money and just sheer ambition, like most coaches. I do not think Saban chased him out, rather I think it was just the needed excuse to get him out of Gainesville. It is damn sure obvious that all of that family and chest pain talk was simply excuses.
Now, he is coaching again at the school that he truly loves. He got his payback on Saban and much more. Guy has lost 3 games in 3 years at Ohio State, I do not believe he is scared of Saban, especially when he had already beaten him in 2008 en route to a title.
Now, he is coaching again at the school that he truly loves. He got his payback on Saban and much more. Guy has lost 3 games in 3 years at Ohio State, I do not believe he is scared of Saban, especially when he had already beaten him in 2008 en route to a title.
If not for that bad year they had when we beat them without throwing the ball, I still think he'd be at Florida.
It's hard to keep doing what you're doing when everyone you've beenndoing it with for YEARS up and leaves... At least without shaking up things in a serious way yourself.
Foley outsmarted himself. I don't understand why they don't get a coach taht takes the Mullen appraoch to the state of Florida. Just spend a few years with the attitude that FLorida is going to be their priority. Basically don't even look out of state except for elite QB's and maybe OT's. You should have no problem consistently having a top 10 caliber team if you're successful with that strategy and you are really setting yourself up for the long run, as Florida's population is growing more than most places.
I don't think it was all an excuse, I think he reached a crisis point in his life mentally and physically and needed to take a step back and reflect on his life. Saban doesn't have anything to do with his decision IMO
Yeah - after he had 5 years later to collect his thoughts.
Bama beat their brains in in 2009 and 2010 by a combined score of 63-20, one of those games being for the SEC Title with Tebow, Riley Cooper, Aaron Hernandez, Jeff Demps, and Chris Rainey.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are plenty of other reasons (lost a lot of coaches over those years), but it was def a factor in his "retirement".
Bama beat their brains in in 2009 and 2010 by a combined score of 63-20, one of those games being for the SEC Title with Tebow, Riley Cooper, Aaron Hernandez, Jeff Demps, and Chris Rainey.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are plenty of other reasons (lost a lot of coaches over those years), but it was def a factor in his "retirement".
Depression/needing reflection/crisis/drained mentally and physically/etc.....all of that are big symptoms of working hard at something you do not really enjoy, being somewhere you do not want to be, etc. General unhappiness. I agree with you, but all those excuses were simply symptoms of the bigger problem. Maybe I should not have called them "excuses". But we do agree that it was not Saban or fear of the SEC or any of that sort of mantra. And we definitely know he was not tired of coaching per se, seeing how he got back in it a year later. Leads me to believe he was not happy with the U of F, Gainesville, etc.
Agree to disagree. You are taking the story given to the media as gospel, and that is fine. But I always assume there is more to the story, plus I am not really a fan of Florida either, having lived there myself.
Depression (and to an extent your other examples) is a chemical imbalance in the brain and is a mental illness, it is not nearly as simple as "being a symptom of working hard at something you do not really enjoy". I do not agree that it had much at all with him just straight up being unhappy at UF. We can agree to disagree, but that needed to be said.
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