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Maybe as long they do not have internet access. Because if they ever stumble onto twitter or any college football message board...
Just remember how Tampa Bay fans went apesh!t when they hire GS, and he was actually a good HC.
Coaches are known to throw other coaches bones from time to time.
Saban threw Steve Sarkisian a bone that led to the Falcon OC position.
Flood's getting his foot in the pro game's door and no matter how we feel about him, he's getting another chance.
Any NCAA discipline Flood might receive doesn't matter to the NFL pro teams have hired sanctioned college coaches .
Flood might be able to use this position to land a better NFL one in the future.
As for salary, what he's getting from Falcons probably will be deducted from what Rutgers has to pay him, so Kyle won't lose a dime taking this job.
Don't have any idea whether he's a good or bad OL coach but the ol softie in me feels it's a good thing he packs up his family and gets out of Dodge. The last couple of years couldn't have been easy on any of them.
I said he'd never coach in the p5 again and I stick by that.
NFL has lower standards for this type of thing. And no show cause order.
Does any know who the assistant OL coach is to the Jets/Giants/Eagles without looking it up...or even the OL coach for that matter?
NFL has lower standards for this type of thing. And no show cause order.
Does any know who the assistant OL coach is to the Jets/Giants/Eagles without looking it up...or even the OL coach for that matter?
But you just said the average Falcon fan would be thrilled, now you say they don't care....I am confused.
I always knew he would land on his feet. I thought Temple would have been all over him but instead the NFL came calling. People here are quick to forget that Coach Flood was asked to compete in the B10 with a Barchi's barebones budget. If it wasn't for Hobbs taking out a 10 million mortgage against future B10 monies Ash would have been dealing with similar circumstances.
As a lifelong die hard Giants fan, I can tell you I don't have any idea who the Giants assistant OL coach is
One time and a bit slower. Poster said the average falcon fan would be pissed. I simply said looking at his resume they wouldn't be. It was not my assumption that they would care to look. That's was his theory.
They don't have one. Their one assistant offensive coach is from Pa. his last name is roeder. He coached at both temple and Princeton. Brother is a head coach in Pa at I think Liberty. He played at Moravian. Nice kid.
Disagree, as noted in another thread. Yeah, Leavitt did not have a show cause order, but what he did (allegedly choked a player) was pretty heinous, and he got a second chance. Maybe Flood will not want to come back to college anyway. Could see if Quinn decides to coach a college team, he could take Flood with him.
He's an asst. O line coach for an NFL team, good for him.
I'll blame Pernetti, but continuing to blame Schiano is just acting like a woman scorned. He was here for over a decade and he didn't have to be. How many college coaches do that nowadays. Why would he turn down a dream job like NFL head coach to stay here for even longer? The timing sucked, being on the verge of our best class, but the timing on a well-liked, decade-long coach leaving is always going to suck. And it's not like he had a choice of exactly when he was going to get an NFL offer.
It's not like we couldn't have gotten someone better, we just didn't.
Some responses backing up Floods big ten performance (and big east defacto champ game season) make me want to set myself on fire. If you can't see that we under performed those two years than I have a hard time valuing your opinion on the topic.
The Falcons fans could care less who the assistant OL coach is.
So you didnt write the average Falcon fan is thrilled by the hire...maybe go a little slower.
And the here you say they dont care...which one is it?
i'd agree except he was in a meeting they previous day saying he's here for the long haul etc etc
all in all, the school's fault so agree
So all that said he would be lucky to coach HS again, maybe a low level college job, etc don't see an assistant at the NFL level is maybe a step up from that. Yes, a steep step down from a B1G HC but step up from where you guys thought he would land, if anywhere. And what do you think the realistic next step would be, ummmm maybe the OL coach at the NFL level. This IS his strength. It is a very smart move by him as well as Quinn.
Ok. It's obvious you don't understand how the quote function or conversation works. Let's say you stated in a thread that supermodel x was fat. I might respond that she isn't fat at least not based on reccomended standards. Now, that doesn't mean I think she is good looking. It's doesn't mean I care if she goes and eats five fat cats. It doesn't mean I care if she gets run over trying to stop a food truck. It's simply means you said something incorrect and I corrected you.
Really? He is an assistant coach in the NFL... U probably couldnt even get a waterboy position for an NFL team
I'm not convinced yet that the Falcons have an ***'t OL coach. This could be a mirage by a friend to try to rehabilitate Elmer's image. They do it in corporate America. I know one guy who recently was transferred from the head of a major investment dept to a newly created R&D job where his main responsibility was to as expeditiously as possible find a real job outside of the company.
Not really sure what he will do but I doubt they hired him to make him find a new job.
Leavitt beat top BE teams except us with regularity and several good OOC teams like Auburn and IIRC FSU. He had one incident, versus several for Flood who then tried poorly to cover his tracks. It is night and day- I would file Leaviitt with Rockin Randy and Flood with Grob.
Flood would stick with the NFL if he knows what is good for him, recruiting and management are not strong suits of his.
Striking a player is indeed night and day compared to what Flood did. And Leavitt continued to deny doing it, and interfered with the investigation. He was seen as a hothead.
"On January 8, 2010, Leavitt was fired after an investigation by USF officials found that he had struck a player in the locker room during halftime of a game against Louisville the previous November 21. Leavitt claimed he was merely trying to console the player and never struck him. School officials found that Leavitt was not truthful about what happened, and also found that he had interfered with the investigation.[7] ESPN's Ivan Maisel reported that Leavitt's interference, which included telling several players and coaches to change their stories, was the biggest factor in the decision to fire him.[8] The Tampa Tribune reported that school president Judy Genshaft and athletic director Doug Woolard felt they had no choice but to fire Leavitt after he refused to admit he had done anything wrong."
Flood ham-handedly tried to help is best DB remain on the team. He never strong armed the TA. He was just a clumsy pest. Burying the drug test results is more problematic, but was it clear he did the burying?
How about all the arrests? And the lousy results matter as well. From 2005 till he was fired, I believe they went to a bowl every year. And the lack of show cause.
As RU's HC, Flood was an unmitigated disaster. He progressively put this program deeper and deeper into a hole that we're now having to climb out of, and the things that happened within the program under his watch sure as hell didn't help matters either.
Connections and friendships can be a help to anyone in any profession and I've no doubt that worked in his favor here. As a result, he got a job with the Falcons where he'll have limited, specific responsibilities in an area where he might possibly be able to contribute something. -Good for him, I guess.
All I really care about is that he's no longer honing his writing skills on the sidelines as the Knight's head guy, and whether he turns out to be a positive or negative addition to the staff in his new job remains to be seen.
Bottom line in terms of importance, though, is that he's gone from "The Banks", and by him somehow, someway getting a gig with an NFL team, it might help Rutgers in terms of the amount of money it still owes KF for the "magic" he worked as the Scarlet's chief honcho. -Beyond that, the Falcons are more than welcome to him.
Connections and friendships can be a help to anyone in any profession and I've no doubt that worked in his favor here. As a result, he got a job with the Falcons where he'll have limited, specific responsibilities in an area where he might possibly be able to contribute something. -Good for him, I guess.
All I really care about is that he's no longer honing his writing skills on the sidelines as the Knight's head guy, and whether he turns out to be a positive or negative addition to the staff in his new job remains to be seen.
Bottom line in terms of importance, though, is that he's gone from "The Banks", and by him somehow, someway getting a gig with an NFL team, it might help Rutgers in terms of the amount of money it still owes KF for the "magic" he worked as the Scarlet's chief honcho. -Beyond that, the Falcons are more than welcome to him.
The vast majority of the hate towards Flood has very little to do with his time as O line coach, but rather his disaster of a tenure as head coach and the wreckage he left behind. And all of that was well earned, which you know. Taking this slant with your post is just trying to incite people. You're better than that.
How about this suggestion for RU fans. Take the high road and wish KyleFlood well in his new position with Atlanta ?
Do RU fans always have to act so butt hurt when any HC or AD leaves RU ? I swear that some of our fans are still sticking needles into voodoo dolls of ex girlfriends from 20 years ago.
Lets move on. We are in a better place now.why continue to sling mud at an ex FB coach ?
Do RU fans always have to act so butt hurt when any HC or AD leaves RU ? I swear that some of our fans are still sticking needles into voodoo dolls of ex girlfriends from 20 years ago.
Lets move on. We are in a better place now.why continue to sling mud at an ex FB coach ?
The fact that KF was hired by a pro team is inevitably going to lead to a discussion of his time here as HC, which cumulatively was detrimental to the program. That's simply the truth of the matter, and to think people aren't going to refer to that is unrealistic. And I doubt there are many who are somehow hurt over Flood being gone. If anything, the majority of sentiment is greatly weighted in the opposite direction.
And you're right; we are in a better place now, but it's because someone completely unqualified to run a P5 program was fired, and justifiably so, but unfortunately, only after leaving behind what amounted to a total and absolute mess. Also, in many instances, (and this isn't directed at you), a lot of posts telling people to "move on" come from those who supported/defended KF the most emphatically to the bitter end.
Talking about the poor job someone did while here isn't slinging mud, it's discussing something that clearly had a negative impact on Rutgers football...and nothing more. -Personally, I don't wish KF good or ill with the Falcons. However he does, he does, and it's a fortunate bit of luck for him he was able to find another position on a coaching staff even after his performance as top guy at RU. I do care, though, about what he did while he was the head man at Rutgers, since the aftermath of that is something the new staff is still having to deal with, correct, and overcome today.
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This is why it is a smart move by both Quinn and Flood. I agree with the thoughts that if Flood wanted to stay in college ball he would have had to start back into it at a much lower level than P5. And Ironically, that may have made him decide to come back in a position that he just wasn't good at. This man is a very good mind for a pro style OL. He is not an OC or HC. So, if he came back for a "Maine" for HC it would have been a bad move. If he came back as OL coach for Delaware or UConn, it would have been an "ehhh" move. Coming back into football as an Asst OL coach at the very highest level, very smart on his part. It is what he is good at. He gets away from the last impression he gave at the college level. Anyone that does see his resume on paper, including the NFL OL he will be working with, he looks like a good, successful coach. Once he gets involved in coaching them and working with them solely on the OL, he will look even better to them. Flood's next move would be OL coach at the NFL level. He can carve himself a wonderful career for the next 15 years.
As for Quinn, he is getting someone he knows is very good on the OL. He will be paying him very low by NFL standards and if for some reason the move doesn't work, it is only a blip. If it works out, he looks very good. I'm betting on the latter.
There are so many here that are rightfully angry and upset at his time as HC. You don't have to wish the man well at all and it is fair to discuss and even knock him for what he did as HC. My point out of all these threads is that when we are discussing his skills, being a bad HC does not mean you were bad at everything.