Fitz Interview

NJCat

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Matt Fortuna met with Pat in a long interview in The Athletic. It's a long interview with much old answers. One on QB's I'd like to share:

It’s no secret how big of an impact Peyton Ramsey made for you guys. Has that changed your philosophy as it relates to the quarterback position? This sport used to have the stigma that if you take a grad transfer QB, it means you can’t develop one, but the portal is the way of the world right now.

I think it’s totally different. I think just the way you manage your roster, let alone the quarterback position, is totally different. We’re in a new era, the transfer portal, on the eve of the ability to one-time transfer, to me, it’s like anything: you have to adapt or you’re gonna die. And we’re looking not to win down the road, we’re looking to win every year, and I have to assess all of our positions for starters, for key backups, for depth. Our coaches have a big voice in that discussion, our recruiting office is heavily involved. I think back five years ago, when guys were leaving your program it was, “Oh my goodness, there’s something wrong with the program there.” That myth is now gone. I mean, the transfer portal is not going away. You’re going to have a handful of guys for myriad reasons that they want to transfer and go find a new home. As I’ve told all of our guys when they come here out of high school, they’ve got me for life, and I’m not gonna be upset with them if they feel like going somewhere else is in their best interest. But I’m not going to stand pat. We’re going to fill the roster with either more high school guys or transfers.

And the quarterback position, as it should, gets a lot of attention, but when we obviously took a step backward in ’19, we just assessed where we were at, and I think we’re in a completely different position and it’s gonna be fun to see how the competition goes this spring. But it will be an open competition, and I look forward to seeing how it plays out. But you’ve got to have talent in that room, you’ve got to have competition in that room, and for you to be successful that position has got to play consistent and do the things that winning quarterbacks do — that’s leading, it’s taking care of the football, it’s managing the locker room, it’s being an extension of the coaching staff 365, 24/7. And if the guy’s got the ability to make plays and make things happen, you’ve got a chance to have a special year. And obviously, Peyton was able to do that last year for us, but prior to that, it was Clayton Thorson for four years.

 

CatChatAR

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My takeaway was that the concept of a “bridge” coordinator is valid. Fitz references that McGarigle and MacPherson are both poised to be coordinators “here” in the near future. They clearly threw their names in the hat.
 

Jonny2TheP

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Just came to post this myself- a really great interview. Covered a lot of larger topics that go beyond what is happening on the field and looking at more the big picture of the program and college football.

As I've said several times on here, while The Athletic doesn't cover NU a ton, if you are a big sports fan, it's a must have subscription. Their writers are great across the board and are constantly writing in depth articles that range from in game x's and o's to larger picture items like this.
 

torque-cat

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Just came to post this myself- a really great interview. Covered a lot of larger topics that go beyond what is happening on the field and looking at more the big picture of the program and college football.

As I've said several times on here, while The Athletic doesn't cover NU a ton, if you are a big sports fan, it's a must have subscription. Their writers are great across the board and are constantly writing in depth articles that range from in game x's and o's to larger picture items like this.


Agree, great read. Fitz keeps college sports in perspective better than any coach I've seen.
 

freewillie07

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"when we obviously took a step backward in ’19, we just assessed where we were at, and I think we’re in a completely different position and it’s gonna be fun to see how the competition goes this spring"

This is interesting. The difference between then and now is adding Ryan Hilinski (and to a lesser extent, young guys Carl Richardson and Brendan Sullivan). While losing T.J. Green and Aiden Smith.

Probably reading too much into this, but I'm hoping this is a sign that he's more confident that Hunter and Marty have picked up Coach Jake's offense better than McCall's.
 

torque-cat

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"when we obviously took a step backward in ’19, we just assessed where we were at, and I think we’re in a completely different position and it’s gonna be fun to see how the competition goes this spring"

This is interesting. The difference between then and now is adding Ryan Hilinski (and to a lesser extent, young guys Carl Richardson and Brendan Sullivan). While losing T.J. Green and Aiden Smith.

Probably reading too much into this, but I'm hoping this is a sign that he's more confident that Hunter and Marty have picked up Coach Jake's offense better than McCall's.

My guess is they are counting on Hilinski, who seems to have shown the most against top defenses at the college level.
 
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What I found interesting was Fitz’s comments as to how NU already assists players with NIL branding, etc. If I understand correctly, Kellogg was at one point known for its marketing expertise. Is that still the case? If so, Kellogg’s reputation in this area would presumably be a draw for recruits once the NIL era kicks off and Governance/rules are spelled out.
 

torque-cat

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What I found interesting was Fitz’s comments as to how NU already assists players with NIL branding, etc. If I understand correctly, Kellogg was at one point known for its marketing expertise. Is that still the case? If so, Kellogg’s reputation in this area would presumably be a draw for recruits once the NIL era kicks off and Governance/rules are spelled out.

Unlikely that Kellogg is directly helping players market themselves and there is no undergraduate Kellogg degree program last I heard.
 
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Unlikely that Kellogg is directly helping players market themselves and there is no undergraduate Kellogg degree program last I heard.

I agree that Kellogg is unlikely to be directly helping players market themselves. Kellogg staff can, however, educate NUFB staff as well as recommend other resources and leading organizations who can directly assist.
 

NURoseBowl

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Just came to post this myself- a really great interview. Covered a lot of larger topics that go beyond what is happening on the field and looking at more the big picture of the program and college football.

As I've said several times on here, while The Athletic doesn't cover NU a ton, if you are a big sports fan, it's a must have subscription. Their writers are great across the board and are constantly writing in depth articles that range from in game x's and o's to larger picture items like this.
Agree, Jonny. The Athletic has some of the best sportswriting around.
 

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"when we obviously took a step backward in ’19, we just assessed where we were at, and I think we’re in a completely different position and it’s gonna be fun to see how the competition goes this spring"

This is interesting. The difference between then and now is adding Ryan Hilinski (and to a lesser extent, young guys Carl Richardson and Brendan Sullivan). While losing T.J. Green and Aiden Smith.

Probably reading too much into this, but I'm hoping this is a sign that he's more confident that Hunter and Marty have picked up Coach Jake's offense better than McCall's.
Is Smith definitely gone?
 

DaCat

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What I found interesting was Fitz’s comments as to how NU already assists players with NIL branding, etc. If I understand correctly, Kellogg was at one point known for its marketing expertise. Is that still the case? If so, Kellogg’s reputation in this area would presumably be a draw for recruits once the NIL era kicks off and Governance/rules are spelled out.
Kellogg provides a four-course undergrad certificate, but nothing in marketing.
Northwestern University and the Kellogg School of Management have partnered to create the Certificate Program for Undergraduates, an elite, four-course academic program for undergraduate students that offers early exposure to — and preparation for — careers in consulting, financial services and other data-driven professions.​
Students enrolled in the program may choose between two four-course certificates: the Financial Economics Certificate or the Managerial Analytics Certificate. Both tracks help students improve their critical thinking skills, business acumen and understanding of strategic models that are used in a wide range of industries and occupations. Certificate Program students remain in the Northwestern University school in which they are enrolled (e.g., Weinberg School of Arts and Sciences, McCormick School of Engineering and Applied Science), taking the four Certificate courses in addition to those required by their schools and majors.​
 

JVENETOS

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Kellogg provides a four-course undergrad certificate, but nothing in marketing.
Northwestern University and the Kellogg School of Management have partnered to create the Certificate Program for Undergraduates, an elite, four-course academic program for undergraduate students that offers early exposure to — and preparation for — careers in consulting, financial services and other data-driven professions.​
Students enrolled in the program may choose between two four-course certificates: the Financial Economics Certificate or the Managerial Analytics Certificate. Both tracks help students improve their critical thinking skills, business acumen and understanding of strategic models that are used in a wide range of industries and occupations. Certificate Program students remain in the Northwestern University school in which they are enrolled (e.g., Weinberg School of Arts and Sciences, McCormick School of Engineering and Applied Science), taking the four Certificate courses in addition to those required by their schools and majors.​
Question for those that know; how is a kid who has this Certificate looked upon compared to a kid who has a traditional business degree? I would be skeptical if I wanted to enter the business world with just a certificate.
 

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Question for those that know; how is a kid who has this Certificate looked upon compared to a kid who has a traditional business degree? I would be skeptical if I wanted to enter the business world with just a certificate.

Better than a kid without either.
 

DaCat

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If I'm a football recruit who wants to enter the business world can you really sell him with a certificate?
It depends on the profession. A business degree is often not highly regarded. Employers often value a major in a more rigorous discipline like engineering, mathematics, etc. The certificate from Kellogg seems like a competitive and challenging 4-course program and could bolster a candidate's appeal to an employer.
 

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It depends on the profession. A business degree is often not highly regarded. Employers often value a major in a more rigorous discipline like engineering, mathematics, etc. The certificate from Kellogg seems like a competitive and challenging 4-course program and could bolster a candidate's appeal to an employer.

When I briefly joined the management consulting world out of college, they didn't care about an undergrad business degree (except maybe from Wharton, which has an elite and extremely rigorous undergrad business school). To your point they much preferred people who excelled in some other area that was relevant--and actually said that English majors were among the most successful candidates due to written and communication skill. They said you learn business on the job, not in undergrad classes, which I would agree with in almost any non highly technical profession.
 

EvanstonCat

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When I briefly joined the management consulting world out of college, they didn't care about an undergrad business degree (except maybe from Wharton, which has an elite and extremely rigorous undergrad business school). To your point they much preferred people who excelled in some other area that was relevant--and actually said that English majors were among the most successful candidates due to written and communication skill. They said you learn business on the job, not in undergrad classes, which I would agree with in almost any non highly technical profession.

In my experience, IBD (bulge-brackets), consulting (MBB), and VC/PE will value technical and quant capability far more than any thing else. IBD likes to see some finance/accounting, but in general engineering highly valued because you know they can do the math. They also care a lot more about pedigree and academic record, and your ability/record of excelling in an environment where the bar is set by other high performing students. Since they have their pick from the field and thousands of applications each year (not to mention the interviewing process is far from perfect), they see top talent coming from the top 10-20 schools as an important screen/filter that indicates how you might perform in a highly competitive environment. If you go to a lesser regarded school where it is perceived to be easier to succeed, your straight A's won't count for as much -- you better have some distinction that sets you apart (e.g. Rhodes, Olympic medal) and exhibits your resilience, dedication to excellence, and ability to perform at a high level. Nobody cares about someone with an undergrad business degree (unless as Torque points out it be Wharton or NYU) though I did not recall English majors being sought after or successful at all (again, the firms I were at felt writing and communications, though critical to the profession, would be something that could be taught much more easily than the intrinsics including sheer horsepower). For VC, STEM would be highly desired, increasingly so, unless you were doing consumer internet. I live in a narrow world, and have my biases (as do we all), but if I were a kid looking toward the future, at least in any of these areas, I'd be majoring in STEM, particularly EE (over CS) or something biotech related. It's perhaps the one thing I regret not doing back in undergrad.
 

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In my experience, IBD (bulge-brackets), consulting (MBB), and VC/PE will value technical and quant capability far more than any thing else. IBD likes to see some finance/accounting, but in general engineering highly valued because you know they can do the math. They also care a lot more about pedigree and academic record, and your ability/record of excelling in an environment where the bar is set by other high performing students. Since they have their pick from the field and thousands of applications each year (not to mention the interviewing process is far from perfect), they see top talent coming from the top 10-20 schools as an important screen/filter that indicates how you might perform in a highly competitive environment. If you go to a lesser regarded school where it is perceived to be easier to succeed, your straight A's won't count for as much -- you better have some distinction that sets you apart (e.g. Rhodes, Olympic medal) and exhibits your resilience, dedication to excellence, and ability to perform at a high level. Nobody cares about someone with an undergrad business degree (unless as Torque points out it be Wharton or NYU) though I did not recall English majors being sought after or successful at all (again, the firms I were at felt writing and communications, though critical to the profession, would be something that could be taught much more easily than the intrinsics including sheer horsepower). For VC, STEM would be highly desired, increasingly so, unless you were doing consumer internet. I live in a narrow world, and have my biases (as do we all), but if I were a kid looking toward the future, at least in any of these areas, I'd be majoring in STEM, particularly EE (over CS) or something biotech related. It's perhaps the one thing I regret not doing back in undergrad.

ya, not sure if the English major aspect remains as predictive as I was told 20 yrs ago. I don't think they thought that English majors learned the skills via their major as much as had a propensity towards good communications skills. The consulting I was doing had some quantified aspect, but was not that intense. Things may have changed as the world has become much more quantified these days
 

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It depends on the profession. A business degree is often not highly regarded. Employers often value a major in a more rigorous discipline like engineering, mathematics, etc. The certificate from Kellogg seems like a competitive and challenging 4-course program and could bolster a candidate's appeal to an employer.
Agree with this. Traditional Business degrees are becoming less important.