First 0-5 SEC start in 30 years...

[thekimmer]

The legacy of the stans-ray debacle reaches a new low.

Hopefully help is coming. These guys play hard but have no idea how to win a ball game.

 

[esplanade91]

IJ is great when he's sinking shots, but the other 95% of the time he's a ball hog who limits his teammates opportunities. What a horrible last shot.

I think the effects of not having anyone worth a damn to practice against are still plaguing this team. That Daniels foul with 45 seconds left was him not knowing how to post up someone his own size or bigger 15 feet from the ball, and that pretty sunk any chance we had at winning that game.

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

Damn you ReLARDO Sidney! We sold our future for that fat, lazy, entitled 17er and we are still feeling the side effects.

 

[msstate7]

Ready's last shot was no where near as horrible as Holman attempting a 3 at the 1 min mark

 

[esplanade91]

Holman is also a freshman with almost no experience, practice or in-game, and he doesn't have a history of jacking up ill advised shots. IJ is an upper classman with extended minutes with a tendency to ignore coaches and shoot at will - which admittedly none of us would be arguing about if they went in.

It's only my opinion, but that final shot was a great representation where the program is right now.

 

[msstate7]

Oh, I'm not taking up for ready. Both were horrible shots. Holman has taken 3 3's (2 tonight) in his limited action. I want Holman to play even more, but that has to stop

 

[esplanade91]

Absolutely. No argument there. But going back to my point about him being greener than anyone on the floor, UF gave him that last shot and asked him to take it. If he's still taking it next year I'll be upset.

 

[rugbdawg]

Are we sure he can't shoot the 3 ball? Seriously. I have no idea. But just because he is 0 for 3 on the year doesn't mean he can't make a wide open three on occasion.

 

[coach66]

It sucked but I do think we are getting

better. If we had any front court talent besides Gavin
we would be fairly competitive. I thought IJ had a good
Shot, he just missed it.

moody is hurt and may not be 100 percent so maybe*

 

[msstate7]

Are we sure he can't shoot the 3 ball? Seriously. I have no idea. But just because he is 0 for 3 on the year doesn't mean he can't make a wide open three on occasion.

He hasn't looked good on his attempts. Regardless with a minute to go and up 1, we don't want Holman shooting 3's

 

[klong-dog]

I believe I've heard Howland say that Holman has great range. He's wide open there, I'm actually ok with that shot. If we hit it were up 2 & in much better shape. Oh well. I just did not want to see us throw the ball away or get a charge called, which we're so accustomed to do.

 

[fishwater99]

He hasn't looked good on his attempts. Regardless with a minute to go and up 1, we don't want Holman shooting 3's

I think we had 4 other players on the floor that I would have rather taken that 3 point shot than Holman did tonight.

 

[Utah_Chaney]

We are getting closer. It's just the little things throughout the game that's taking us out of producing wins. If we have a few things change, and a couple other plays that result in a few points, and several of these games are wins instead of losses.

We are a long way from being a factor, but we just need to start playing well with what we have, and things will hopefully start heading in the other direction.

HOPEFULLY, we get our first SEC win against Ole Miss.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Well ..

Holman is also a freshman with almost no experience, practice or in-game, and he doesn't have a history of jacking up ill advised shots.

Sorry, but he does have a history of "jacking up ill advised shots" .. of the 9 shots he has taken this year, 4 (44.4%) have been from 3pt range. So far, he is shooting 0 for 4, 0%.

 

[512taylor]

We are getting closer. It's just the little things throughout the game that's taking us out of producing wins. If we have a few things change, and a couple other plays that result in a few points, and several of these games are wins instead of losses.

We are a long way from being a factor, but we just need to start playing well with what we have, and things will hopefully start heading in the other direction.


I am by no means an expert, but I agree that we are getting closer and have played well lately against some good teams.

Hopefully, we don't take a step backwards like we did against Tennessee.

 

[johnson86-1]

Sorry, but he does have a history of "jacking up ill advised shots" .. of the 9 shots he has taken this year, 4 (44.4%) have been from 3pt range. So far, he is shooting 0 for 4, 0%.

Supposedly he shot 50% from 3 his sr year of high school. If that's true, going 0 for 4 from three after coming off a major injury is not exactly a history or jacking up ill advised shots.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

If they had finished strong in some of those games, they are 2-3 or possibly better. They just can't finish games.

 

[tcdog70]

Damn you ReLARDO Sidney! We sold our future for that fat, lazy, entitled 17er and we are still feeling the side effects.

sidney would have scored 20 with 10 boards and still walked up the court. I'll take a Sidney over Travis Daniels or no-clutch IJ.

 

[mstateglfr]

sidney would have scored 20 with 10 boards and still walked up the court. I'll take a Sidney over Travis Daniels or no-clutch IJ.

He would have also watched players skip past him on D and either give the player a free layup or slap at the player as they skipped past, giving them an and1 opportunity.

 

[Dog316]

The legacy of the stans-ray debacle reaches a new low.

Hopefully help is coming. These guys play hard but have no idea how to win a ball game.

^^^^^
The last three years and the first half of this season lead me to believe that some of the "experts" in evaluating Stansbury's competence as a basketball coach didn't have a clue. Howland should turn things around in his third year. He has the credentials and the great committed class for 2016. But when he turns things around we will have suffered through five years of something we never experienced under Stansbury. That is a fact

 

[fishwater99]

He would have also watched players skip past him on D and either give the player a free layup or slap at the player as they skipped past, giving them an and1 opportunity.

Yep, but his offense alone would be worth it on this team... He would have made that 3 that Holman shot last night..

 

[thekimmer]

Indeed....

^^^^^
The last three years and the first half of this season lead me to believe that some of the "experts" in evaluating Stansbury's competence as a basketball coach didn't have a clue. Howland should turn things around in his third year. He has the credentials and the great committed class for 2016. But when he turns things around we will have suffered through five years of something we never experienced under Stansbury. That is a fact

At the risk of opening that argument back up but then as long as we suck wind in the wake of that idiotic decision then I think its fair game. I said at the time it was being discussed that ultimately it came down to risking losing a level of success for the CHANCE for greater success but with zero assurance that it would happen. Well here we are at a point where many would kill to be back where stans had us. Sad, sad, sad.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

We are getting closer. It's just the little things throughout the game that's taking us out of producing wins. If we have a few things change, and a couple other plays that result in a few points, and several of these games are wins instead of losses.

We are a long way from being a factor, but we just need to start playing well with what we have, and things will hopefully start heading in the other direction.

HOPEFULLY, we get our first SEC win against Ole Miss.

We have lost a few games by not having a "go to" guy late in the game... and I am not talking about our Freshmens. It always ends up in an upperclassmen's hands (and not Ware).

I would love to see either Q or Newman have a shot when the game is on the line.

They definitely cannot do any worse.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

IJ is great when he's sinking shots, but the other 95% of the time he's a ball hog who limits his teammates opportunities. What a horrible last shot.

I think the effects of not having anyone worth a damn to practice against are still plaguing this team. That Daniels foul with 45 seconds left was him not knowing how to post up someone his own size or bigger 15 feet from the ball, and that pretty sunk any chance we had at winning that game.

Ready was doing great in the first half. Second half, we forgot him like we did Ware.

I kept wonder why in the heck he wasn't on the court more in the second half.

 

[FlotownDawg]

You would think that our NBA "one and done" guy would be our go to player

but apparently not. Newman just kind of fades in and out of this team. He'll score a few points and then just disappear for stretches. Consider me very underwhelmed.

 

[Predestined]

The only thing more depressing that this stat

is the realization that just hit me - that was my sophomore year.

Well, at least my son and I have something in common about our MSU experience we can share.

 

[anon1787432961]

The legacy of the stans-ray debacle reaches a new low.

Hopefully help is coming. These guys play hard but have no idea how to win a ball game.

1) team does not have role players willing to play a role other than arguably Ware who does shoot further out than he should
2) team does not have a clearly defined leader on the floor
3) team does not have a strong enough hunger to scrap out a win (even though i do see this growing slowly)
4) team does not want to do the dirty work it takes to win a game

The more the term "record low" and "worst ever" sink into these guys egos the better. They need to realize they are the worst and swallow their pride and ego and start over.

New plan:
1) No one takes the last shot other than Sword or Malik.
2) Everybody but Ware double their current rebounds per game.
3) Everyone other than Ware and the hottest guard that night (Q, Malik or Sword) cut the # of shots they take per game in half outside of 8 feet from the goal
4) Everyone that misses a few long shot need to drive to the goal and either lay it up or get fouled and stop firing it up and hoping for the best
5) Everyone set at least 15 picks per game
6) Everyone actually try on defense or sit down

 

[olblue.sixpack]

Supposedly he shot 50% from 3 his sr year of high school. If that's true, going 0 for 4 from three after coming off a major injury is not exactly a history or jacking up ill advised shots.

Why would put any stock in his HS stats?