With what money? Especially after paying the buyout.
#FireKirk
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That or I'd argue a fan base that doesn't or doesn't want to get it in this new era.
The fact that you had to explain that, twice, to a sports fan who’s been around as long as he has is unbelievable.
The spread was 7.5, then 8.5 right before kickoff. The game was Indiana -7 before they gave Iowa two points for some reason. The game played out about as close as Vegas could have called it and we’ve got fans acting like Iowa had some huge moral victory because it wasn’t a blow out.
Yes, a moral victory only losing to a coach in his third year as an FBS level coach (second at a P4) level by five points at home. That’s Iowa Football in 2025.
1) Uhhhmm, 2001 ... 2008 ... 2020, Iowans and the rest of the country ain't as rich as it once was.
2) It's an entertainment product, not a religion (well in the SEC it is). Lots of shiny things for people to spend their money on, and college sports is just one of them.
3) When you have a program that rewards mediocrity with 7 figure checks and private jets, and it even becomes a jobs/scholarship program for the family, well let's just say that can rub small donors the wrong way.
4) And finally your honor, the idiots who run our society have turned an amateur sport into a professional one. On principle alone, many donors object to enabling this new crapitalistic approach to "higher education".
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Everything that anybody ever wants lives on the other side of fear.
I cannot argue with many of your points. I still thought we had a more passionate fanbase tho.
That's some funny **** right there.
Iowa had a program before Kirk. Remember that guy named Hayden Fry? The world will not end when Kirk is gone, either.
I don’t think Indiana has the talent of the blue bloods. They have a very solid and well coached team. They’re like Iowa and WI in our KF glory days.
Indiana decided they wanted to go toe to toe with Iowa in a trench battle. I’m not sure why when most of us felt they had the advantage going thru the air….
But Iowas scheme, when executed fairly well, brings all games into a phone booth and we see these results over and over. We’ve had success with it against UM often, sometimes against PSU….but the more dynamic offenses like OSU, TN, Stanford, etc…..were susceptible to blow outs
The major issue is that Kirk has now lost over and over to ranked teams without ever trying to adapt or adjust the scheme. He could kinda get away with it in the Big10 West division
Now, it’s never going to work without a schedule that avoids all the top teams.
If Kirk won’t change anything, then he needs to step away cause no one wants to see 7-5, 8-4 but hope for anything more is gone before October
Really what makes you think he will walk away, the guy is stubborn and has shown that over and over. He will just dig in his heel and preach, you will be better next year and have to work harder. The guy is under contract until 2029 and will be here at least until 27 or 28.
How many teams in the conference would trade their QB, WRs/TE and RBs for yours, maybe one or two at most. Lack of talent on offense and little to no creativity on offense, this is what it looks like.
Is Indiana better now? What about Illinois? Was Michigan better after hiring Harbaugh? It is a risk, but, there are plenty of instances where a coaching change worked out. Not a fan of Campbell, but, Iowa State is better after hiring him
Don't let the 3 yrs in FBS fool you. He has plenty of experience w/ success and involvement w/ DII, FCS, FBS and P4 programs.
(Which btw, is somewhat same track as Iowa's new MBB coach)
Curt Cignetti football history:
College Playing Days-
- Cignetti played quarterback for the West Virginia Mountaineers from 1979–1982
College Assistant Coaching-
- Cignetti began his coaching career as a graduate assistant at Pitt in 1983 under Foge Fazio.
- He has also coached at Davidson College, Rice University, and Temple University.
- In 2000, Cignetti joined Chuck Amato's staff at North Carolina State University. During his tenure, the Wolfpack achieved a school-record 11-win
season in 2002. In 2003, he coached quarterback Philip Rivers, who earned ACC Player of the Year honors. Notably, in 2006, Cignetti recruited future Super Bowl champion quarterback Russell Wilson to the Wolfpack.
- In 2007, Cignetti became part of Nick Saban's inaugural coaching staff at Alabama, serving as wide receivers coach and recruiting coordinator. During Cignetti's at Alabama, the Crimson Tide achieved a 12–0 regular season in 2008 and a 14–0 national championship season in 2009. During this period, Alabama won 29 consecutive regular-season games. Cignetti played a pivotal role in recruiting and developing key players, such as wide receiver Julio Jones, Heisman Trophy winner Mark Ingram II, and linebacker Dont'a Hightower.
College Head Coaching-
- He is the only college football coach to have started 10-0 with two different teams. (JMU in 2023 and IU in 2024.)
IUP - 6 yrs / 53-17 record / 3 NCAA DII Playoffs
- When Cignetti became head coach at IUP in 2011, the program was coming off a 4–10 conference record in the previous 2 seasons. In his first season, he revitalized the team, which won six of its final seven games by an average margin of 28 points, finishing 7–3. The following year, IUP won the Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference (PSAC) title and advanced to the NCAA Regional Finals, ending the season 12–2.
- Across six seasons, Cignetti compiled a 53–17 record at IUP, with three NCAA playoff appearances
Elon - 2 yrs / 14-9 record / 2 NCAA FCS Playoffs
- At Elon, Cignetti inherited a program with a 4–20 conference record and six consecutive losing seasons. In his first year, the Phoenix turned their fortunes around, winning eight straight games after an opening loss to MAC champion Toledo. They were ranked as high as sixth nationally and competed against James Madison for the conference championship, earning their first NCAA Playoff berth since 2009.
He also was a finalist for the Eddie Robinson National Coach of the Year award.
JMU - 5 yrs / 52-9 record / 3 NCAA FCS Playoffs ( 1 Champ loss and 2 Semi losses) in 3 years and 2 yrs in FBS
- At James Madison, in his first season, he orchestrated a dramatic turnaround, leading the Dukes to a 14–2 record and an appearance in the FCS National Championship game, where they fell to North Dakota State. The 2021 season saw further success, as the Dukes finished 12–2 and announced their move from the Colonial Athletic Association (CAA) to the Sun Belt Conference. In their first season at the FBS level in 2022, JMU made a seamless transition, finishing 8–3 and earning a share of the Sun Belt East Division title.
In 14 years as a head coach his record is 130-37 (incl. last year at IU)
As an assistant, his main duties were QB and some WR coaching at all stops. Might have some connection to IU's talent at QB and WR. ; )
Trivia: His father, Frank Sr was the head coach @ West Virginia and is in the HOF and younger brother, Frank Jr, was the OC for Boston College and Pitt as well as QB coach for the GB Packers. Currently OC for IUP.
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Thanks for providing that bio.
I’d love to get a guy with that pedigree.
He wins
Turns programs around
Has recruiting chops
I’d love to get a guy with that pedigree.
He wins
Turns programs around
Has recruiting chops
We don’t care. Tired of the SAME exact garbage year after year.
Iowa is unwatchable even when Iowa wins.
Comedy Central here for sure. The all time winningest coach in B10 history and there are call for his firing. The folks yelling the loudest go to an occasional game and spent $25 at Walmart on their hawk apparel. Of course they never attended Iowa but expect their voices to be heard. I can assure you that the powers that be, and the alumni base, couldn’t care less what you think.
And they can suck my nutz. The great thing about this message board is I can say this **** because tons of people agree with it and bums like you don’t and we have discourse.
With that being said, #FireKirk
And this attitude is why they couldn’t care less what you think. I think they understand that your $25 purchase may be in future jeopardy, but they will live with it.
At no point, watching the game and in the time since, has this loss triggered the “Yep, time for Kirk to go!” reaction.
Our QB got hurt. I truly don’t think we lose if he stays healthy. It really boils down to that for me.
Our QB got hurt. I truly don’t think we lose if he stays healthy. It really boils down to that for me.