Fire Moorhead

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It’s bad. REAL BAD. Correct me if I’m wrong, but we were rebuilding with Croom and I don’t recall ever seeing it this bad.

Your memory isn't very good.

This is bad though. Everyone blaming Shoop is ridiculous as well. The D has played well enough for us to win the last 2 weeks. Moorhead's offense is completely falling flat. I still don't understand why Key wasnt in the game in the fourth quarter. I am not one of the people insistent on starting him, but damn...try something else. Tonight was embarrassing.
 
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I guess I just remember history and the misery a little bit better than you to see the storm that is coming. Not an argument or star rating here. You could have the Bama roster out there right now and they would lose. Players not being in right spots is a coaching issue. The corvette is laying in the ditch on blocks.
 

msu84grad

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We don't have the personnel to run the offense Penn State ran last year.

So JoeMo looks at our talent level and what they accomplished, and decided that this winning method with this winning talent needed to change, rather than use the strength available until he could get talent in that could run his scheme.

Most new coaches are hired when changes are needed. What makes a coach great is leaving a winning formula alone, not "fixing" it when it isn't broke.
 

War Machine Dawg

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Well according to Todd McShay and NFL scouts, we have at least 6-8 draft picks and 3 or so of those are first round talent. Jenkins is rated the #1 NFL center prospect, Williams the #1 NFL guard prospect. If you really think we don't have talent, you're crazy. 9 wins should've been the floor with this team. We'll be lucky to get to 6.
 

mst8

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3 to 2 Croom stuff tonight. Hate to say it but Mullen would be 5 and 0 right now. Defense played well enough to win.
 

Drebin

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this guys offense is worst than Croom. Moorhead begging for a roughing call on a terrible 4th down call is pathetic and sad.

17 him.

I saw all I needed to see last week and got blasted for my comments, but I said then that more and more would come around soon. I sold my tickets and didn't even see the game, so I won't comment on particulars. Apparently, it was as ****** as I expected.
 

Drebin

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I am as pissed off as anyone but you have to give these coaches a little time. We don't have the personnel to run the offense Penn State ran last year. That is what I am most frustrated about. We are a running team but we are not being coached that way

This is why you have to hold these coaches accountable. You don't come in here and try to run the Penn State offense. Good coaches change their approach to fit their personnel, not run their system no matter what kind of personnel they have.
 

Drebin

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Everyone says we got talent. Two defensive linemen, who else? I don’t see enough talent to compete.

This is retarded. Shouldn't you be hanging your head because your boys got boat raced by LSU tonight?
 

Hankp22

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It was as bad as I've seen

I saw all I needed to see last week and got blasted for my comments, but I said then that more and more would come around soon. I sold my tickets and didn't even see the game, so I won't comment on particulars. Apparently, it was as ****** as I expected.

It's almost like Sirmon is coaching our offense. I guess I have seen worse but not with the talent level we have on this team.

The thing that bothers me most is we are extremely soft. We aren't tough. This football team was mentally and physically tough a year ago and now we are soft.

We had maybe 15 total yards in the 4th quarter and more first downs by defensive penalties as we earned offensively. I've never seen a team struggle to get a play in from the sidelines like we do. We are as disorganized an offensive football team as I have seen.

I was shocked at how poorly we looked last week. I wasn't shocked this weekend. Our team this time a year ago would beat this team up and down the field.
 
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