https://sports.yahoo.com/nick-saban-rants-about-the-ills-of-players-leaving-early-for-the-nfl-draft-051359284.html
Anyone feel sorry for this guy?
Anyone feel sorry for this guy?
Financial Advisor Nick Saban
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Are there any examples of
Bama players going lower or even the same after year 4 than their year 3 draft grade? I’m guessing no sense the article didn’t give any examples. If not, you really can’t argue with Saban.
Bama players going lower or even the same after year 4 than their year 3 draft grade? I’m guessing no sense the article didn’t give any examples. If not, you really can’t argue with Saban.
Does anyone really think Saban cares more about his former players financial well being over just getting to keep these guys for another year?
Ronnie Harrison got a jump start on his career and will make six figures for 4 years in the league. He is now a starter and his second contract will make him 7 figures yearly. There was never a guarantee that he would have been a first rounder this year. He is a safety. He is not Troy Polamalu. I'm not sure he is a Jonathan Abram. Also, he might have needed to start earning as early as possible due to family finances. Was Saban willing to pay him six figures to stay?
Saban is bu++ hurt that he rarely gets to coach seniors. I doubt he even keeps up with former players and how they are doing other than have one of his many staffers contact them to visit during a recruiting weekend. I don't feel sorry for a guy who stockpiles talent and some leave early. At least in football, a player must wait 3 years from HS graduation before they can enter the draft. He has them for 3 years. Baseball or Basketball does not get that. If he wants 4 or 5 year players, he needs to recruit more 3 star rated players.
Ronnie Harrison got a jump start on his career and will make six figures for 4 years in the league. He is now a starter and his second contract will make him 7 figures yearly. There was never a guarantee that he would have been a first rounder this year. He is a safety. He is not Troy Polamalu. I'm not sure he is a Jonathan Abram. Also, he might have needed to start earning as early as possible due to family finances. Was Saban willing to pay him six figures to stay?
Saban is bu++ hurt that he rarely gets to coach seniors. I doubt he even keeps up with former players and how they are doing other than have one of his many staffers contact them to visit during a recruiting weekend. I don't feel sorry for a guy who stockpiles talent and some leave early. At least in football, a player must wait 3 years from HS graduation before they can enter the draft. He has them for 3 years. Baseball or Basketball does not get that. If he wants 4 or 5 year players, he needs to recruit more 3 star rated players.
Josh rob, derunya, forget the linebackers name
He has a pretty solid point.
3 and done without a degree vs 3 and done with a degree and likely higher percentage of not be 3 and done.
3 and done is just a general term I’m used based on the article.
He has a pretty solid point.
3 and done without a degree vs 3 and done with a degree and likely higher percentage of not be 3 and done.
3 and done is just a general term I’m used based on the article.
Whether it is a good or bad decision, it is still the player's decision and they make them for many reasons. What does he want, the ability to block them from entering? Maybe these guys can't stand another year being around that guy.
Feel sorry... no. Do I believe that he is sort of right? Yes. Look at DeRunnya and Beniquez Brown from State. Those guys made poor decisions that hurt their futures. They both would have been better off staying for their senior year.
Is he using these facts to manipulate players to stay for their senior year? Sure. 4 and 5 star veterans are how you win championships. He knows that and he will do anything to win.
Is he using these facts to manipulate players to stay for their senior year? Sure. 4 and 5 star veterans are how you win championships. He knows that and he will do anything to win.
Nobody's arguing his point. People's problem is his self-serving vantage point, veiled by his concern for the players.
There was no guarantee that DeRunnya, JRob, or Beniquez would have been first rounders and NFL standouts even if they stayed for another year. They may still have been in the same boat a year later. There were linemen who ran faster than DeRunnya. He wasn't going to turn into a track star after one more year. We have to understand as much as we love these guys and what they did here, they were very good college players, but not NFL top talent. And Saban isn't talking about these guys, he is talking about his 4 and 5 star players leaving early which is what 4 and 5 star players are supposed to do.
This is Ronnie Harrison's rookie contract
2018 21 $673,876
2019 22 $818,258
2020 23 $908,758
2021 24 $980,258
Total $3,381,150
This is more than most people will make in their lifetime. He got signed in 3rd round and a head start on earning and closer to that second contract. He is now a starter in the NFL and will make seven figures yearly on that next contract. I doubt he was making over $600k in college, even at Bama. Also, he can go back and finish his degree after football if that is a goal. A lot of players do.
This is Ronnie Harrison's rookie contract
2018 21 $673,876
2019 22 $818,258
2020 23 $908,758
2021 24 $980,258
Total $3,381,150
This is more than most people will make in their lifetime. He got signed in 3rd round and a head start on earning and closer to that second contract. He is now a starter in the NFL and will make seven figures yearly on that next contract. I doubt he was making over $600k in college, even at Bama. Also, he can go back and finish his degree after football if that is a goal. A lot of players do.
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17 that little angry garden gnome. Is there no end to ******** telling other people what they need to do with their money?
I find it ironic that a coach making what he makes is micromanaging student athletes.
Also ironic, has not this guy "left early"? As I remember, he had a whole lot of people in Miami lining up their personal **** for another season with a coach who "will not be the next coach at Alabama."
I find it ironic that a coach making what he makes is micromanaging student athletes.
Also ironic, has not this guy "left early"? As I remember, he had a whole lot of people in Miami lining up their personal **** for another season with a coach who "will not be the next coach at Alabama."
He also hated the hurry-up offense because he was concerned about player safety.
I would say that with JRob and Derunya at least, another year of college wouldn't have made any real difference in their earning power afterwards. Some kids just aren't going to apply themselves academically to get a decent degree no matter how many years they stay in college on a football scholarship.
That seems questionable to say the least. For the most part, a lot of these players making "bad decisions", their decision to leave early is not the problem, but a symptom of the problem. Some players that leave with a "bad" draft grade are just making a rational decision (probably the minority of them). For many of them the decision to come out early with a bad draft grade is reflctive of the same decision making process/attitude that would prevent them from reaching their potential if they stayed another year.
I'm not sure about DeRunnya, but I think Brown definitelyf it in the former category. He had a degree, was smart, and wanted to either take his shot or move on with his life. I'm sure he had seen some people that spent all their twenties chasing their dream only to end up with nothing except maybe a better resume for entering coaching, so I can get him feeling like he either wanted to make it or not earlier rather than later.
Exactly. He didn't have any problems with players leaving a year early until Dabo and Clemson kicked his ***.
He needs to raise the salary for that last year of the contract
Right now it is set up so they get the same amount all 4 years. He needs to back end weight their contracts so they make more their junior and senior year.
Right now it is set up so they get the same amount all 4 years. He needs to back end weight their contracts so they make more their junior and senior year.
Desperate to beat Clemson. They are the new gold standard. And they LIKE their head coach. Can't blame players wanting to get away from Saban. He's an ***.
Now he's got excuses on why Clemson will win another title this year.
Most only sign with Saban due to his reputation for developing their fundamentals and getting them the best shot at the NFL. I hate Saban, I think he's a self-serving dickhead. Just adapt, it is not like he does not have the best players in the country. And he usually does. I just do not like the complaining.
I would not bet on him losing again to Clemson though, especially this year. This might be his most dominating team ever.
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I still have no understanding of why they cannot return to college if they do not get drafted. If they picked with the very last pick of the last round, I understand that they cannot return to college. But if you undrafted, I see zero reason why you shouldn't get a chance to return.
I could see a situation like baseball, if you do not like your draft position, you turn it down and still get to play college. Since the nfl only has a few draft rounds, this could work if each player set a draft position, like say 140th overall as thei limit. Anything above 140, they get a choice to return. Anything below, they have to go.
No they wouldn't be first rounders, but they would have paid for degrees and have a chance to better their draft grade.
No doubt in my mind those guys decision hurt their future.
No doubt in my mind those guys decision hurt their future.
Sure it is, but I’d hope a coach tried to give players good advice.
You can say what you want abt saban but he has some experience getting his a lot of money in the nfl.
You can say what you want abt saban but he has some experience getting his a lot of money in the nfl.
They don't sign with Saban because of his reputation
They sign with Saban because a booster reached an agreement with them. That is why after losing to us he said we were collecting bottles and cans from the side of the road to finance our team while Alabama had the funding to be successful. Saban has destroyed college ball with his system for hire.
They sign with Saban because a booster reached an agreement with them. That is why after losing to us he said we were collecting bottles and cans from the side of the road to finance our team while Alabama had the funding to be successful. Saban has destroyed college ball with his system for hire.
No but Saban is. And it's going to be amazing to watch Clemson make him their ***** for the next few years. Can't wait.
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