Final 40 seconds of first half

[TaxMan308]

Why would you expect something that just isn’t done? Anyone tries rolling a ball on us and Caleb steals it. There were 3 MSU players in the area when Cliff first grabbed the ball.

To further refute your point the Hauser shot went in at 41.8 and as you said Geo didn’t touch it until 36 seconds yet Harper got fouled with 15 seconds left. We wasted 6 seconds and I just don’t see how we waste another 15 seconds. MSU has players on their team. We weren’t playing in a vacuum.

Please show me where there were 3 people around the inbounds???? There wasn’t even one Michigan St player in the back court when cliff was inbounding. Go to the 11:25 mark in the video.

 

[RUfromSoCal?]

Please show me where there were 3 people around the inbounds???? There wasn’t even one Michigan St player in the back court when cliff was inbounding. Go to the 11:25 mark in the video.

give it a rest bro.

you raised a point that is reasonable to consider in very specific circumstances........ but, not here.

the time MSU had left on the clock to make that last 3 had everything to do with the Iso look RHJ had with 24sec left in the half -- and nothing to do with running an extra 3 seconds off the clock before touching the ball on the in-bounds.

 

[TaxMan308]

give it a rest bro.

you raised a point that is reasonable to consider in very specific circumstances........ but, not here.

the time left on the clock had everything to do with the Iso look RHJ had with 24sec left -- and nothing to do with running an extra 3 seconds off the clock before calling a time out by letting the ball roll before touching.

 

[DC8690]

There is definitely a Mich St players watching the inbound in the back court. No way he would let 6 seconds tick off the clock. At most 2, so the fact that you were furious regarding this is ridiculous

 

[GORU2014]

I would care about this if we didn’t win by more than 20. Is that the right way to think about it? Probably not, but so it goes.

 

[TaxMan308]

I would care about this if we didn’t win by more than 20. Is that the right way to think about it? Probably not, but so it goes.

At the time this happened I was furious because i know how many close games we have had. But yes, you are right, because we ended up blowing Michigan st out, it didn’t matter. But it could matter in another game. Though it appears most people on this board disagree with me. Oh well.

 

[Scangg]

The real alpha move is what FIG said about taking your time getting the ball after the made bucket. Let it roll away. Make the ref go grab it.

 

[RedTeamUpstream94]

The real alpha move is what FIG said about taking your time getting the ball after the made bucket. Let it roll away. Make the ref go grab it.

Agree.

Overall the end of half was fine

the fact that they set up a play and got Harper the ball to get an “and 1” and not some desperate chuck at the horn is progress

the real thing to be upset about (not “irate” tho) is Harper sinking down way too far in the zone leaving #44 waaaaay too open for the 3.

but the OP being “furious” about the non ball rolling ….just a strange over-reaction to a non issue

 

[fluoxetine]

The fact that this guy has ****** up quoting people in multiple posts in this thread is.. not a coincidence.

 

[Scarlet Shack]

Objectively ….

If you want to be really annoyed …ask yourself why pike went back to zone on that possession ???

Michigan state had it figured out …and led to an open look.

We stayed in the zone too long in the first half a couple of Poseidon too long …just like the end of the northwestern game (where they got comfortable , first missing good looks, and then eventually making them )

Zone only to break a team out of rhythm …onky for a few possessions

 

[RU-ROCS]

I was “irate” at the long line at the men’s room at halftime.

 

[TaxMan308]

In case anyone noticed, Brad underwood called timeout after Illinois made a basket with 36 seconds left to go in the first half. Why?? To ensure an extra shot…. To not let 6 seconds tick off and let Rutgers have last second shot. So obviously Illinois knows how the clock works. I hope Rutgers learns from this. I love my Knights. Been a knight fan since 1992. But please can we acknowledge that other teams seems to understand time management better than Rutgers.

 

[Scangg]

In case anyone noticed, Brad underwood called timeout after Illinois made a basket with 36 seconds left to go in the first half. Why?? To ensure an extra shot…. To not let 6 seconds tick off and let Rutgers have last second shot. So obviously Illinois knows how the clock works. I hope Rutgers learns from this. I love my Knights. Been a knight fan since 1992. But please can we acknowledge that other teams seems to understand time management better than Rutgers.

I noticed this too. Smart move

 

[MLBash93]

In case anyone noticed, Brad underwood called timeout after Illinois made a basket with 36 seconds left to go in the first half. Why?? To ensure an extra shot…. To not let 6 seconds tick off and let Rutgers have last second shot. So obviously Illinois knows how the clock works. I hope Rutgers learns from this. I love my Knights. Been a knight fan since 1992. But please can we acknowledge that other teams seems to understand time management better than Rutgers.

That wasn't the reason for the time out. You only get 3 timeouts that carry over to the 2nd half so it was a use it or lose it timeout

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

That wasn't the reason for the time out. You only get 3 timeouts that carry over to the 2nd half so it was a use it or lose it timeout

Disagree. He could have used it righ after RU last possession. This was a better use.

taxman is right. Underwood itemized this timeout, didn’t take the standard TO

 

[RUBB86]

TaxMan is right about the TO last night. He was trying to get the last shot to cut into the lead.

 

[willisneverrana43]

That wasn't the reason for the time out. You only get 3 timeouts that carry over to the 2nd half so it was a use it or lose it timeout

So? If it’s a use it or lose it timeout, that’s all the more reason to take it to ensure that you get a second possession. Do you think that he just likes to chat?

 

[RUtrumpet92_rivals498139]

I think Underwood would have called the timeout there even if there were 28 seconds left after they scored.

 

[richthedentist]

I think Underwood would have called the timeout there even if there were 28 seconds left after they scored.

And the gist of it all is it didn’t help as they got the last shot off after the buzzer anyway

 

[RU516]

OP is right. Matt Painter has been doing this all year. A smart coach takes advantage of EVERY loophole they can. It kills a 2 for 1.

See video/ twitter thread here

 

[RedTeamUpstream94]

Not this crap again

 

[DC8690]

But your original post slammed the team for not rolling the ball up to save 6 seconds when a player was from the other team was standing in the back court and would have prevented that from happening. Two totally different scenarios

 

[willisneverrana43]

And the gist of it all is it didn’t help as they got the last shot off after the buzzer anyway

Well, it did help, in that they got a chance.

 

[TaxMan308]

Just to point it out…: Penn State knew what to do when Rutgers scored with 35 seconds to go in the first half. The inbounded held the ball until there were only 30 seconds left to go in the half. Not rocket science. They did it. We need to learn.

 

[needmorecowbell]

OP is right. Matt Painter has been doing this all year. A smart coach takes advantage of EVERY loophole they can. It kills a 2 for 1.

See video/ twitter thread here

There are multiple strategies. Not just one way to end the half.

 

[RUsojo]

should be a relatively easy thing for us to incorporate going forward

 

[TaxMan308]

There are multiple strategies. Not just one way to end the half.

I had missed the attached video. Thanks for highlighting it again.