I wasn’t referring to you at all, if Imleft that impression my apologies. I simply mean that in sports as everywhere else it seems, nobody wants to take responsibility for what they do. There is always aI did it BUT in there somewhere. Having played sports in high school and college I did some things in the heat of competition I regret, that said a coach has to be above the type of stuff we saw here. Wish coach was out of line but Howard threw a punch, just don’t see how that can be justified.
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Because this was his second incident is why Howard should be fired imo.
Ultimately I don’t think Michigan has the stones to fire him. We shall see.
Ultimately I don’t think Michigan has the stones to fire him. We shall see.
For me, no dog in this fight. Objectively speaking, I don't really have anything but the tape to tell or show me what happened, but I did watch the Gard/McIntosh (AD) Wisconsin press conference after the game. Gard provided the explanation about having his bench players in the game with just seconds to play but wanted to call time out to get them an additional amount of time (10 seconds vice the 4 they had to deal with after a break in play) and to get them settled so they could advance the ball past the mid-court stripe using the full 10 seconds and then let the clock run out. He instructed them not to shoot the ball.
While I except that as truth, his reasoning really is not so great for doing it with his team up 77-63 at the time. Yes, he can call time out, and yes, he does need to teach/coach his team, but up 13 with seconds to go changes things. What he did seems a bit petty and unnecessary to me, and that further fanned flames from an earlier time out call he made with less than two minutes remaining in the game. I understand you want your kids to be coached up and prepared, and to make it as easy for them to succeed as you can in all situations, but to do this at the very end of this game is taking that to an extreme. Win graciously; lose graciously.
That said, Howard needs to be a little more of an example of strength and composure to his kids. You may not like getting your *** handed to you, but you log it away and get them the next time all the while trying to get your kids to play better.
Depending on my review of the facts and what Juwan Howard tells me, if I were the Michigan AD, I would find it very difficult not to relieve him of his duties. I am almost 100% sure that this will not happen, that in today's world of tolerating more shocking and undesirable behavior, he will survive and likely be suspended for a few games.
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You can watch the video and Howard was already running his mouth to Gard before they reached each other.
I absolutely hate Wisconsin. Ever since 2015 when we are on a cruise ship and the few fans pulling for them in the Final Four were obnoxious beyond belief after the game.
That said. This is 1000% on Howard. Coaches have "discussions" all the time during the handshake line. No suspensions...because no one throws a punch...and this isn't Howard's first rodeo...He had a similar brush up with Mark Turgeon last year....hot heads are going to hot head.
Oh, and don't get down by 15 and still press and not think that may not come back around at some point.
So yea...horrible take.
Alright alright…..arrested for assault? Did you see that “punch”? The pussification of America rages on. Also, gotta love how easy we all demand folks lose their jobs. Howard didn’t shine as a professional today but damn. Fire him AND send him to jail? Some of y’all gotten toughen up.
I agree completely. I've said some things in the heat of competition that I regret as well. Howard deserves to be suspended, no doubt. I'd say he should be suspended for at least the rest of the regular season, and maybe the B10 tourney as well. He has to be above these kinds of actions. I think Michigan, if they don't fire him, should put him on a kind of probation. He has had 2 strikes, if memory serves. He had an altercation last season as well. So, 3 strikes and you're out.
Bad take on your part. Attempting to explain something to the opposing coach is NOT instigating a physical altercation.
Grabbing a guy and holding him back, not letting him go, though he is clearly trying to walk away, and then angrily screaming at him IS instigating a physical altercation. Howard clearly wants NO part of any discussion right there and he's doing a blowby. You can't force a guy to stand there with you mid court in front of the whole world and have it out.
And again, I'm not excusing Howard. I'm just not laying the entire blame for the situation on him because it wasn't all his fault. If the Wisconsin coach lets Howard blow by without grabbing him, this never happens. We hear some smart aleck comments in the media room afterward from both coaches and that's it.
IL Wildcat is 2 or 3 posts away from claiming Gard tried to kidnap Howard.
I get your point, but after they were separated from their initial contact Howard then goes through and over a couple people to make contact with the coach.
That is all on Howard.
Howard should be fired...end of discussion.Gard should be suspended but no way you can condone Howard's actions.
The twitter responses from the people trying to minimize what he did are pretty cringeworthy....and typical
Well, when he does something horrendous (beyond this) the third time, then it will be too late.
Oh, well. Glad he isn’t coaching my team.
Oh, well. Glad he isn’t coaching my team.
Here is a good read on the situation.
Yeah I agree . This is 100% on Howard . And because Howard was running his mouth HARD in the shake hands line Gard tried to cool him off a bit .. and explain the the TO ... yes Gard touched his chest .. but it wasnt in anger .. from then on Howard was in ghetto mode . Aint no body disrespecting me. !!! LOL , ( by placing a hand on his chest to slow him down). Thats not dissing you , he's a nut and needs removed before he does clock some opposing player or coach -- see the Maryland tape , this isn't the first time . Howards defense in the presser was just that " He laid hands on me " LOL you fool .. its a weak , lying , woke defense .. but it will save his job , because people are growing accepting of terrible behavior .
I'm not sure what reason they would use to suspend Gard, but if they don't do something to him, Steven A will go off for about 20 minutes about it.
Most of us live our lives by a code. A code that includes, among other things, decency and respect for each other. It has nothing to do with toughening up.
Serious question, how do you disgrace Michigan?
If you want to see real anger watch Chris Webber and Howard after they lose in 93 or maybe 92 when they're walking back to the locker. Screaming at camera men.
Just a reminder that Howard called TO when down 15 to OSU the other day. Holtmann didn’t gripe to Howard about it.
Hmmm.
Funny how that works when one coach doesn’t act like a complete *******.
Hmmm.
Funny how that works when one coach doesn’t act like a complete *******.
Howard should be in the unemployment line today.
Also another reminder that Howard called TO when up by 15 with :55 seconds left against IU. Mike Woodson didn’t gripe to Howard either.
Howard is a jerk.
Howard is a jerk.
Calling someone names on a basketball board, do you know what that makes you look like ? If you don't remember people on here wanting Howard here after Cal leaves you either have no memory or you know nothing about Kentucky basketball. Calling people names on a basketball board should get you suspended from this board, if not banned permanently. This board is supposed to be fun discussion about basketball, not calling other people names.
If Howard doesn’t get the needle for this, just shows how weak America has become.
I really dgaf what I look like to you. You’re a **** poster that does nothing but stir the pot. Your original post only had 1 purpose and that was to troll and get the thread going the wrong direction.
There are thousands of people that post on this board, there might have been a handful of people that brought up Juwan Howard as a replacement for Cal and I wasn't one of them. Heck, I'm not even sure anybody dropped Howard's name in any of those threads, I'm just taking your word for it, but since you’re nothing but a troll, I shouldn't trust you enough to take your word for it.
No accusations came. He said it was about the timeout. Are you going to be a racist ******* or apologize?
If I'm the President of Michigan or even on the board his *** is fired.Its completely unacceptable.Im being serious here,as much as I love Cal if he had done this I would be just as adament that he must be fired.
If they slap Howard on the wrist here considering he has already shown a tendancy to get explosive with other coaches then it opens up Pandoras box going forward for all other hot headed coaches.
An example must be made of Howard on this matter.Its completely unacceptable and for the sake of the game he must be fired.
Of course Juwan was on the right side of the scoreboard in two of those.