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Yea I’m aware of why it happened . Because of a timeout called at 15 seconds that Howard was mad about .
The timeout was called by the Wisconsin coach because he had his kids from the end of the bench in the game and Howard kept pressing and stealing the ball even though the game was over for all practical purposes.

Howard was a butt to do that. He initiated the whole thing. So all of this crap about the Wiscy coach instigating this situation is ridiculous.
 

Shaudylo

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The timeout was called by the Wisconsin coach because he had his kids from the end of the bench in the game and Howard kept pressing and stealing the ball even though the game was over for all practical purposes.

Howard was a butt to do that. He initiated the whole thing. So all of this crap about the Wiscy coach instigating this situation is ridiculous.
Yeah I agree there . If you’re pressing you shouldn’t get mad at anything at that point .

But I have never agreed with most unwritten rules type stuff in sports .
 
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Bush league move by a bush league coach. I recall watching a game earlier that mentioned where he cocked off saying he didn't need a coaching job, doing it because he wants too and Michigan is the only coaching job he'd do. If he stands by his words, his career is done. Shouldn't be so cocky
 

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Black coach....black history month.....woke culture....he's not going anywhere. He might be suspended for a couple of weeks. But no loss of his job.

All the woke BS and shameful if that’s how it goes down. Absolutely shameful. The woke media is out in full force calling it a “swipe” and all sorts of other BS. Doesn't matter if a swipe or a punch. Putting a forceful hand on another person is a crime. Let’s see how it plays out.
 
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Only Michigan, always seemed in check with his emotions as a long time player
BUT He has gone Woody Hayes, Bobby Knight LITTLE TEN CONFERENCE CRA CRA.
Thanks for the enjoyment.
I could see UK canceling any series we had in the works with Michigan.
They are not done fighting with leadership like that.
 
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seccats04

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Except he said nothing like that in his defense.

It’s funny that the very ones who claim they hate how everything turns racial and political is trying to turn this into a racial thing when no one else has mentioned it. It’s uncanny actually..
Well that’s because every time we see a fight where the black guy was the aggressor this is always their defense. Go back to sticking your head in the sand.
 
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Harbaugh and Howard are the most prominent coaches at Michigan? The Michigan AD had a Hex put on him. So much for staying in the family for the big positions.
Sacco and Vanzetti at the helm in Ann Arbor.
 

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And now this…


There is little defense to Howard’s claim. Yeah, Gard touched him to stop him to explain. But when you try to blow by someone and say something quite a-holy, then expect that guy to stop you and have their day in verbal court.

And what did the assistant say? Probably told him to f-off, and I would to if someone has their finger in my coach’s face because they don’t understand the game and can’t handle the situation.
 
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revcort

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That was crazy. Like Juwan but he lost his cool and is going to pay for that one. Whisky coach didn’t help it by confronting him over the blow by. Grabbed him to say “what’s up with that?” And thats what lit it up.
Yeah, there is no excuse for what Howard did, but the stupid Wisconsin coach needs to understand that moment is not the time to have a heart to heart with him. You don't grab the opposing coach and try to force him to have a conversation right there. It was clear to anyone with a brain that Howard didn't appreciate the late timeout by Wisconsin when the game was over. And it was a bit of a punk move by the Wisconsin coach. Just let the game end. It was over, but he wanted to relish it and soak in it. I don't blame Juwan Howard for taking issue with that. The problem for Howard is that you can't let your anger get the best of you there and put your hands on someone.
 

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From this angle once Howard says don’t touch me why continue touching him ? Just let him keep walking at that point . Howard has to behave better but the Wisconsin coach only made matters worse .
Come on now. Howard started the whole thing. He started mouthing to Gard, of course Gard is gonna stop and respond.
 

Cawood86_rivals

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Yeah, there is no excuse for what Howard did, but the stupid Wisconsin coach needs to understand that moment is not the time to have a heart to heart with him. You don't grab the opposing coach and try to force him to have a conversation right there. It was clear to anyone with a brain that Howard didn't appreciate the late timeout by Wisconsin when the game was over. And it was a bit of a punk move by the Wisconsin coach. Just let the game end. It was over, but he wanted to relish it and soak in it. I don't blame Juwan Howard for taking issue with that. The problem for Howard is that you can't let your anger get the best of you there and put your hands on someone.
He explained in a video why he called a time out.
 

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Well that’s because every time we see a fight where the black guy was the aggressor this is always their defense. Go back to sticking your head in the sand.
Well yeah, except Howard said nothing of the sort. But I’m the one sticking my head in the sand. Y’all are hilarious…
 

MakinMusic_rivals

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Yeah, there is no excuse for what Howard did, but the stupid Wisconsin coach needs to understand that moment is not the time to have a heart to heart with him. You don't grab the opposing coach and try to force him to have a conversation right there. It was clear to anyone with a brain that Howard didn't appreciate the late timeout by Wisconsin when the game was over. And it was a bit of a punk move by the Wisconsin coach. Just let the game end. It was over, but he wanted to relish it and soak in it. I don't blame Juwan Howard for taking issue with that. The problem for Howard is that you can't let your anger get the best of you there and put your hands on someone.

No one has to agree with a decision a coach makes. However, it’s his decision to make and not outside the line when it comes to coaching his team. Opposing coaches can take offense but can’t slap or punch someone because of it. Tell the media in the post game conference. Howard should be fired and sent back to the assistant bench with the NBA. Absolutely stupid.
 

mebeblue2

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Yeah, there is no excuse for what Howard did, but the stupid Wisconsin coach needs to understand that moment is not the time to have a heart to heart with him. You don't grab the opposing coach and try to force him to have a conversation right there. It was clear to anyone with a brain that Howard didn't appreciate the late timeout by Wisconsin when the game was over. And it was a bit of a punk move by the Wisconsin coach. Just let the game end. It was over, but he wanted to relish it and soak in it. I don't blame Juwan Howard for taking issue with that. The problem for Howard is that you can't let your anger get the best of you there and put your hands on someone.
if Howard felt the game was over then why was he still pressing the bench players
 

revcort

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He explained in a video why he called a time out.
Yeah, I get that. He had his scrubs in and Michigan was pressing. I get that. Where he was in the wrong here is putting his hands on Howard and attempting to force him to have a conversation in the hand shake line. There is no defense of that. Without that, nothing further would have happened. He started the entire altercation.
 

Cawood86_rivals

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Yeah, I get that. He had his scrubs in and Michigan was pressing. I get that. Where he was in the wrong here is putting his hands on Howard and attempting to force him to have a conversation in the hand shake line. There is no defense of that. Without that, nothing further would have happened. He started the entire altercation.
Not so imo. Howard was mouthing to Gard before they got to each other. If Howard doesn’t mouth off, Gard walks on by and nothing happens.
Btw, Gard didn't grab Howard like Howard grabbed him. Laying all on Gard is ridiculous. Howard hit a coach fromthe other team, not even Gard. Howard owns all of this.
 

revcort

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if Howard felt the game was over then why was he still pressing the bench players
Yeah, he shouldn't have still been pressing. I agree. And the Wisconsin coach shouldn't have called timeout. Howard shouldn't have made a comment in the line and the Wisconsin coach shouldn't have grabbed Howard to force a confrontation. Howard was doing a fly by. The Wisconsin coach should have just walked on by. He started the physical confrontation.

I'm not excusing Howard here. But the Wisconsin coach is not without guilt here. He started the physical confrontation. He should be disciplined as well. He won't be, but he should be. Howard should be suspended for the rest of the season. The Wisconsin coach should be suspended for a game, maybe two.
 

Cats_2010

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Yeah, there is no excuse for what Howard did, but the stupid Wisconsin coach needs to understand that moment is not the time to have a heart to heart with him. You don't grab the opposing coach and try to force him to have a conversation right there. It was clear to anyone with a brain that Howard didn't appreciate the late timeout by Wisconsin when the game was over. And it was a bit of a punk move by the Wisconsin coach. Just let the game end. It was over, but he wanted to relish it and soak in it. I don't blame Juwan Howard for taking issue with that. The problem for Howard is that you can't let your anger get the best of you there and put your hands on someone.
Don’t agree with anything you just said. Howard can press and keep stealing the ball from walk-ons with his starters but gard isn’t allowed to keep coaching his own team? Also gard would not have grabbed Howard when they walked by had Howard not ran his mouth. Gard not allowed to coach, not allowed to try and defend why he coached or anything. Just let Howard have his way all the way around I guess! Sorry but no!!
 

revcort

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Not so imo. Howard was mouthing to Gard before they got to each other. If Howard doesn’t mouth off, Gard walks on by and nothing happens.
Btw, Gard didn't grab Howard like Howard grabbed him. Laying all on Gard is ridiculous. Howard hit a coach fromthe other team, not even Gard. Howard owns all of this.
Wrong. 2 opposing forces. Gard started the physical confrontation. Smarting off by Howard is childish but not a physical confrontation. Gard grabbed Howard first.
 

revcort

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You guys are all misunderstanding me. I'm not excusing Howard. As I said above, he should be suspended the rest of the season. I'm just adding that Gard is not innocent here. The entire blame doesn't get shouldered by Howard. Gard started the physical confrontation. If a guy lays hands on you to force you to stand still and gets in your face, what are you gonna do? That is why the physical confrontation happened. Gard started it. The rest is just 2 competitors getting mad and smarting off. When you put your hands on someone, that changes everything. Howard returned the favor and then escalated it by slapping the assistant. That is inexcusable.
 

mebeblue2

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Yeah, he shouldn't have still been pressing. I agree. And the Wisconsin coach shouldn't have called timeout. Howard shouldn't have made a comment in the line and the Wisconsin coach shouldn't have grabbed Howard to force a confrontation. Howard was doing a fly by. The Wisconsin coach should have just walked on by. He started the physical confrontation.

I'm not excusing Howard here. But the Wisconsin coach is not without guilt here. He started the physical confrontation. He should be disciplined as well. He won't be, but he should be. Howard should be suspended for the rest of the season. The Wisconsin coach should be suspended for a game, maybe two.
we are sorta on the same line
i have no problem with the TO since Howard continued to press
i do agree both should get some punishment
i think the Wisky coach should get 1 game
Howard at the very least should be done for the year and in all honesty fired
Howard is supposed to be the adult on the team and lead by example
is that the example you want your 18 year old to follow
what if an opposing player slightly grabbed the arm of a player should he throw a punch
 
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Shaudylo

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You guys are all misunderstanding me. I'm not excusing Howard. As I said above, he should be suspended the rest of the season. I'm just adding that Gard is not innocent here. The entire blame doesn't get shouldered by Howard. Gard started the physical confrontation. If a guy lays hands on you to force you to stand still and gets in your face, what are you gonna do? That is why the physical confrontation happened. Gard started it. The rest is just 2 competitors getting mad and smarting off. When you put your hands on someone, that changes everything. Howard returned the favor and then escalated it by slapping the assistant. That is inexcusable.
Careful careful if you aren’t saying this is 100% on Howard someone is going to think you be praising Howard as a civil rights leader 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
 
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Cats_2010

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You guys are all misunderstanding me. I'm not excusing Howard. As I said above, he should be suspended the rest of the season. I'm just adding that Gard is not innocent here. The entire blame doesn't get shouldered by Howard. Gard started the physical confrontation. If a guy lays hands on you to force you to stand still and gets in your face, what are you gonna do? That is why the physical confrontation happened. Gard started it. The rest is just 2 competitors getting mad and smarting off. When you put your hands on someone, that changes everything. Howard returned the favor and then escalated it by slapping the assistant. That is inexcusable.
Gard grabbed Howard’s arm to stop him to talk. He didn’t physically grab him as to start an altercation. There is a huge difference there. Gard gets zero Blame in my eyes. Howard with the don’t touch me bull after running his mouth was also crap.
 

Shaudylo

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Come on now. Howard started the whole thing. He started mouthing to Gard, of course Gard is gonna stop and respond.
I get Gard responding I don’t get why he grabbed him to talk. Howard is walking by saying what he said Gard should have said something back and kept walking .

Definitely dumb of Howard to hit the other assistant coach that came over considering they were separated . Just get your players and go in the back instead he caused a fight and now I’m sure some Michigan players will be suspended now .
 

revcort

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Gard grabbed Howard’s arm to stop him to talk. He didn’t physically grab him as to start an altercation. There is a huge difference there. Gard gets zero Blame in my eyes. Howard with the don’t touch me bull after running his mouth was also crap.
We will have to agree to disagree then. Grabbing a man right there is starting the physical confrontation. Gard doesn't get zero blame because he got physical first. The right move, as someone above just said, is to make whatever comment you want and keep walking. He decided to grab Howard instead. Without that decision, nothing physical happens.
 

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Yeah, there is no excuse for what Howard did, but the stupid Wisconsin coach needs to understand that moment is not the time to have a heart to heart with him. You don't grab the opposing coach and try to force him to have a conversation right there. It was clear to anyone with a brain that Howard didn't appreciate the late timeout by Wisconsin when the game was over. And it was a bit of a punk move by the Wisconsin coach. Just let the game end. It was over, but he wanted to relish it and soak in it. I don't blame Juwan Howard for taking issue with that. The problem for Howard is that you can't let your anger get the best of you there and put your hands on someone.
Howard was pressing the scrubs when the game was well decided. The bench guys do not get much clock and the Wisconsin coach wanted the TO to give instruction to the group after being pressed. Howard, to me, looked and acted like a jerk. I think both coaches will be punished with Howard getting a big, big punishment. It is warranted.
 

revcort

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Very similar to all the ******** literally thousands of UT people spewed defending their disgraceful behavior agianst Ole Miss. Just another example of the decline of our civilization.
Not defending Howard, just not gonna lay the entire thing at his feet. It seems you want to blame the entire thing on Howard. Watch the video. Gard gets physical first, grabbing Howard and trying to force him to have a conversation in the handshake line. That move is what escalated the situation from a verbal exchange to a physical exchange. Now, what Howard did from that point is inexcusable, but to lay the entire thing on Howard is also wrong. Now, when you begin to attack me as part of the decline of our civilization, well, now you've gone from civil conversation to personal attack. That is uncalled for.

And actually, THIS kind of hyperbolic comment is what I see all the time on social media and message boards. We can't disagree without you making me out to be the cause of the decline of our civilization. Why can't we disagree agreeably?
 

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IMHO - Howard deserves a suspension for the rest of the regular season games they play. But doesn't need to lose his job. Something serious and immediate.

He had an altercation last year in the Big Ten tournament ? At last year's Big Ten tournament, Howard was ejected after getting into a shouting match with Maryland coach Mark Turgeon. So twice now he's had an issue in two years....

Needs to have something serious to prevent this from getting any worse.