#FightorFlight - what the hell is this?

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I keep seeing this # and just wondering who the hell came up with it? Is this advocating retreat if it isn't going your way? What this has to do with football I just don't know.
 

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Chris Ash Press Conference: "The players were equally impressed by their coach. Many current players and recruits took to social media to express their excitement over Ash's hiring and his plans to overhaul the offense. And apparently Ash already has established a motto with the players: Fight or flight."
 

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I keep seeing this # and just wondering who the hell came up with it? Is this advocating retreat if it isn't going your way? What this has to do with football I just don't know.
Are you on something? Maybe you should call it a night?
 

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"Fight or Flight" = acute stress response. When faced by an imminent threat, we're wired to either combat that threat or turn tail and flee.

Ash trying to tap that primal dynamic, via a jesture of machismo, likely a challenge to a vulnerable recruiting class and transfer possibilities. Time to show your mettle guys: are you a fighter or a chicken shat? If you're not a fighter, you don't belong, anyway.

Kinda gimmicky. Kinda sophmoric. Kinda smart, too, in a culture of hashtags and soundbites.
 

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I keep seeing this # and just wondering who the hell came up with it? Is this advocating retreat if it isn't going your way? What this has to do with football I just don't know.
Its a syndrome usually used in pyschoanalysis associated with military combat or stress situations that 2 things will happen under stressful conditions...you'll either get mad and stand and fight or scared and flee..last I heard it commonly used was in the marine corps Viet Nam era..In Scotland's Highlands they used to say ''Feet or Flee''
 
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NickyNewark51- Love your handle. I'm sure many on here have no idea what it really stands for.
Good...they ABSOLUTELY HATE it on SU or Uconn's boards...like putting red in front of a bull..lol...thats the way it should be....I was born in the North Ward of Newark's heavily Italian ''I'm Scots-Irish'' at the time neighborhood and grew up in Belleville across the street from Frankie Valli's grandma.. I always embraced the ''persona''..
 

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"Fight or Flight" = acute stress response. When faced by an imminent threat, we're wired to either combat that threat or turn tail and flee.

Ash trying to tap that primal dynamic, via a jesture of machismo, likely a challenge to a vulnerable recruiting class and transfer possibilities. Time to show your mettle guys: are you a fighter or a chicken shat? If you're not a fighter, you don't belong, anyway.

Kinda gimmicky. Kinda sophmoric. Kinda smart, too, in a culture of hashtags and soundbites.
nicely said...i only saw your response after posting a more sterile version saying basically the same thing below....
 

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I used to hang out on "the Avenue" in my younger days. Finish Line sports bar, Rockin Robins, Ed's Hot dogs (JJ's sucked) on Bloomfield ave across from Branch Brook Park.
 
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It's a basic psychological stress response and it tends to be more pronounced in males. Basically if confronted with a problem/issue or threat of some perceived kind, the reaction is either to engage and confront it or fly/run from it. In a lifetime .. most people experience both sides of this.
 
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I used to hang out on "the Avenue" in my younger days. Finish Line sports bar, Rockin Robins, Ed's Hot dogs (JJ's sucked) on Bloomfield ave across from Branch Brook Park.
Remember a guy named Marco DiGiovanni...Anthony Imperiale liked my mom as a Newark teenager..Dairy Queen incident....Tony said ''We kicked the crap out of 22 junkies''.. in Time Magazine ..''68'' or ''69''lol...those were the days..I hung out on Mt Prospect and sometimes Summer Ave...
 

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I used to hang out on "the Avenue" in my younger days. Finish Line sports bar, Rockin Robins, Ed's Hot dogs (JJ's sucked) on Bloomfield ave across from Branch Brook Park.
Barringer High...my question mark key don't work..I went to school in Belleville..
 

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trotter

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Good...they ABSOLUTELY HATE it on SU or Uconn's boards...like putting red in front of a bull..lol...thats the way it should be....I was born in the North Ward of Newark's heavily Italian ''I'm Scots-Irish'' at the time neighborhood and grew up in Belleville across the street from Frankie Valli's grandma.. I always embraced the ''persona''..

Barringer High...my question mark key don't work..I went to school in Belleville..

Finish Line was right around the corner from Schools Stadium. Isn't Anthony Imperiale the guy that beat up a mugger with a ball peen hammer as a city councilman? I hung out more Down Neck in the Italian private social clubs.
 

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I used to hang out on "the Avenue" in my younger days. Finish Line sports bar, Rockin Robins, Ed's Hot dogs (JJ's sucked) on Bloomfield ave across from Branch Brook Park.

Talk about Fight or Flight...Branch Brook park at around 11:30 on a weekend night...lol
 
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It is pretty simple, you are either here to fight or go home. We only want people will not back down from anyone.

It sure beats the hell out of the preschool please don't hurt me FAMILY: Forget About Me I Love You

I like it and the players and recruits seem to really like it. They starting using it right away.
 

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To answer the OP's question - our group consensus is that it's an intentional message to the NJ recruits.
 
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To answer the OP's question - our group consensus is that it's an intentional message to the NJ recruits.

Tell him the second part...

about the connection between those who leave and "let's strap it on."

tell em...tell em
 
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Tell him the second part...

about the connection between those who leave and "let's strap it on."

tell em...tell em
if your strapping something on, you bet your *** I'm fleeing!

To answer the OP's question - our group consensus is that it's an intentional message to the NJ recruits.

I think it is bigger than that, it is also a message to the current team.

It means if you're a high school kid in NJ and leave the state to play football, you're a pu$$y.

Thanks guys. I can get behind this...Hudson, stay away!
 

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"Fight or Flight" = acute stress response. When faced by an imminent threat, we're wired to either combat that threat or turn tail and flee.

Ash trying to tap that primal dynamic, via a jesture of machismo, likely a challenge to a vulnerable recruiting class and transfer possibilities. Time to show your mettle guys: are you a fighter or a chicken shat? If you're not a fighter, you don't belong, anyway.

Kinda gimmicky. Kinda sophmoric. Kinda smart, too, in a culture of hashtags and soundbites.
With your manifest linguistic abilities, it's okay to come right out with it and use the noun form.
 
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I think those saying it is aimed at recruits are right. It's like at tOSU we say come to Ohio State or get beat by Ohio State.
 
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Keep It coming Nick. Great memories with da 'talians in New Brunswick from that era. Loved the clothes, cars, music.
 

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If it's aimed at recruits and new Jersey high school players soon to leave high school it's exactly the kind of thing we need--emphasis on getting all those nj recruits we're losing and emphasis from the get go on playing for your home state and kind of mocking/shaming those who leave. It amazes me how gentlemanly and meek our past coaches have been on the subject especially considering our insistence on trying to play tough guy football on offense.
 
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