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The average person has no idea how few of them are left. It's basically an impossible business model for a small operation these days in the US. The bucolic advertising is complete BS. It's fully corporate. Provides cheap milk though I guess.
Most of my friends that have small dairies don’t do it anymore. There’s just a couple left. Milk is a commodity so they are at the mercy of the market price so the big dairy operations can make it work because of their size. It’s the same thing in row crops, you have to be big to spread out your costs. If you’re farming small acreage you’re farming on the side and have a second job.
 

johnson86-1

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The idea that somebody would think cattle ranching is hands off and easy is incredible to me.

Hell, growing a pine tree isn't hands off and easy and it's complete cake compared to growing animals.
Not that surprising to me. It's the hobby farm of choice for a reason. That reason is (I think) that you can mostly predict how much you're going to lose while spending less time and money (compared to rowcrop farming at least; really don't know why so many doctors and business owners did cows instead of just planting timber unless it's that they wanted pastureland on their property).
 

BIGDAWG44

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I recently got into ranching 2 years ago. Grew up hunting and being outside and figured what the heck. I love being outside and working. It’s a second/side hustle for me because I still work 8-5 but it’s honestly been a lot of fun to do and it’s really brought me back to God. Just being outside has me appreciate the small things. I figured I’d quit wasting time watching tv and start ranching and see where it goes.
 

RBcoach

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Like the big girls huh?
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Xenomorph

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If you have the cows. If you want to expand you’ll have to do it by calving because calves are ridiculously high that it doesn’t pencil.
Isn’t it always just cheaper to have calves? I mean.. don’t the cows 17 for free?

>not a rancher<
 

Pars

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Who here rents out goats?
Seriously looking to rent some goats to clear some land.
It’s a thing that people do
 

Xenomorph

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So you don't FARM sheep or COWS?
Farms primarily focus on cultivating crops, vegetables, or fruits, often involving intensive soil management and consistent daily routines. Ranches focus on grazing and raising livestock (like cattle or sheep) over vast areas of land. While farms are typically smaller and crop-centric, ranches are defined by large-scale, livestock-focused operations. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
 
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Who here rents out goats?
Seriously looking to rent some goats to clear some land.
It’s a thing that people do
If you can find some they can definitely do that. A guy here that had about 10 acres with Kudzu all over it had goats put on it. Within a couple of weeks it was like night and day.
 

paindonthurt

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Growing up our neighbors were dairy farmers. That has to be the most dedicated and thankless jobs in this country. The average person has no idea the commitment of a small family dairy farmer.
My grandfather owned a dairy farm and 2 of his 10 kids took it over.

I worked with them in the summers. Milked, drove a tractor, built fence.

they worked their tails off for very little money.
 

Pookieray

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Farms primarily focus on cultivating crops, vegetables, or fruits, often involving intensive soil management and consistent daily routines. Ranches focus on grazing and raising livestock (like cattle or sheep) over vast areas of land. While farms are typically smaller and crop-centric, ranches are defined by large-scale, livestock-focused operations. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Yeah, I'm aware. I should have used *** That is why my very first response to the OP was what it was and also why I CAPITALIZED farming. Also, Ranchers have cattle not just cows.
 

She Mate Me

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I think it was the Pioneer Woman's husband I heard say that large scale cattle ranching is mostly cultivating quality grasses and having the proper proportion of cattle to efficiently convert your grasses to beef.
 

BIGDAWG44

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I think it was the Pioneer Woman's husband I heard say that large scale cattle ranching is mostly cultivating quality grasses and having the proper proportion of cattle to efficiently convert your grasses to beef.
THIS. Most of it is trying to improve soil and get rid of trash plants in pasture. I just sprigged some sumrall 007 Bermuda in a pasture and can’t wait to see what it does.

 
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Dawgbite

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Isn’t it always just cheaper to have calves? I mean.. don’t the cows 17 for free?

>not a rancher<
In a perfect world you have halve female, heifers, and half male, that become steers. The heifers replenish the herd as older cows age out and the steers are sold. Some years you get heavy male calves and a steer is cheaper than a heifer so you have to buy females to replace breeding cows. It’s all one big tax exemption until you decide to completely sell out.