I swear I think Pike is playing him just to make him earn a bit what he is getting in NIL. Makes no sense otherwise. The guy is completely and utterly overmatched.
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No worse than Ogbole, who has no stamina. And Nwuli/Dortch aren’t bigs.
No choice but to play him.
Quadruple Single for Fall today;
2 pts, 3 rbds, 5 fouls, 1 lost shoe
2 pts, 3 rbds, 5 fouls, 1 lost shoe
He’s not getting much and most of you would throw up at what a serviceable center actually costs
Fall is only minimally more responsible for the team sucking than Juel Wiggan and Gary Waters are. Our best players aren’t big10 talents. And Dortch isn’t, and Nwuki isn’t. And Mark isn’t.And Buchanon and so on. Arrows are more fairly slung elsewhere and not toward Fall.
Fall fouling out was hilarious.
As was three Rutgers starters scoring a total of zero points. One of the worst teams I've ever seen at making layups.
As was three Rutgers starters scoring a total of zero points. One of the worst teams I've ever seen at making layups.
It’s actually somewhat remarkable that anyone on this team is being paid. It just shows how out of whack everything has become. The initial purpose was that a student athlete shouldn’t have his name image and likeness exploited without getting compensated for it. Now we are openly hearing how much a power forward or center cost – what does that have to do with name imaging like this which is the underlying basis for these payments
There is nothing wrong with the student athlete being compensated if they’re selling their jerseys in the student center store or if some local car dealership wants someone to show up and shake a few hands. However, paying Fall because he is near 7 foot and may be a good rim protector (if only) has nothing to do with name, image and likeness.
If the universities decide that they want to share some of the revenue received with the student athletes that is fine. However, that is totally separate distinct from what is happening, which is private funding of quasi club teams their needs to be regulation before the golden goose gets cooked, and the loyalties that people have to their schools, which doesn’t exist with pro sports, goes away
There is nothing wrong with the student athlete being compensated if they’re selling their jerseys in the student center store or if some local car dealership wants someone to show up and shake a few hands. However, paying Fall because he is near 7 foot and may be a good rim protector (if only) has nothing to do with name, image and likeness.
If the universities decide that they want to share some of the revenue received with the student athletes that is fine. However, that is totally separate distinct from what is happening, which is private funding of quasi club teams their needs to be regulation before the golden goose gets cooked, and the loyalties that people have to their schools, which doesn’t exist with pro sports, goes away
I agree with your points when it comes to NIL on an individual player basis, but as a team our players collectively help the school generate revenue, which collectively they should be allowed to have a share in, as you mentioned in your last paragraph.
So if your argument is that the NIL portion should be regulated in some way, unfortunately that genie is out of the bottle and I assume it will be difficult to police any type of regulation. If a company or wealthy individual wants to pay one player $2 million to post their likeness on a website somewhere, who is going to say that is unfair market value to that sponsor?
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It’s not like we were gonna win if he sat on the bench. I’d rather he get some minutes in unwinnable games to see if there is anything salvageable.
There isn't. I can't believe the Rutgers staff didn't see that he was a complete zero.
The Prez seems to have been the only person in New Brunswick who didn't know Hobbs was screwing the WG coach and RU
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hey, maybe he was doing her too? Heck maybe the Pres was too and that's why he quit..it's Rutgers.
Fooling Pike is not surprising, but fooling Arkansas and K-State is. Also, I understand hs ratings are sometimes based on potential, but how the hell was this kid a 5 star? He’s a 3 star at best, and that’s entirely based on size. He has very limited skill, zero basketball IQ, is robotic, surprisingly slow, is always out of position, and seems lost on the court.
Not only a 5 star a McDonald’s all American
recruiting services get things wrong but this is one of the worst
I want to see the tape where he identified 5 star qualities
This is THE problem. And has been for the majority of the last 40 years. It was the problem in the BE and the A10 too.
He’s the “problem” only in the sense that all 5s cost money and we wasted resources that could’ve been spent to upgrade on of the other positions considering how unplayable he is.
I’m sort of indifferent. We knew going in that it wasn’t a winnable game. I also think we pretty much know Fall is not playable at the high major level regardless of development. He’s a Junior riding the bench for a 3rd straight year - this time on a weak high major team.
Some may point to Ogbole’s improvement but it’s way different. First of all Big O battled injuries his first 2 years. Only played a few games year 1 and then struggled trying to come back from a meniscus tear last year. While not great, he wasn’t unplayable at any point the way Fall is IMO.
You are so right. Obviously, it’s too early to tell for sure, but all of the freshman look like mid-major talent, and his level of transfer talent is well known.
To be fair, Fall is having a career season:
www.sports-reference.com
- He's up to 14 total rebounds which is a single season high
- He had his first career assist this year.
- His next block will put him at 11 for the year which will also be a season high.
- 1-2 FT is a career high % at .500.
- At 7 games played, he's only 2 behind his season high of 9 games.
Baye Fall College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com
Baye Fall - Stats, Game Logs, Splits, and much more
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correct. two time loser/bust ain't getting paid again, especially if the paucity of NIL is to be believed. I don't think Pike is a terrible talent evaluator or tactician. I think he needs to spread around what little NIL kitty he has on probable starters and brought Fall in for next to nothing. Pike had to know Fall can't play.
It was pretty strongly hinted at he was what we could afford which to your point could be 0 …
centers cost way too much just like every other position costs more than it should
Do we know if he got paid to leave K State?
Agree with your other post, I’m indifferent but if he’s playing mop up duty in an unwinnable, at least we are keeps Big E healthy.
I just don’t know how the hell he was a 5*. Cliff was raw, but the athleticism and strength was always insane. I don’t even see the athleticism or strength in Baye.
Hobbs was too busy sending dick pics to the gymnastics coach to do his job. i hate that guy so much
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Does it bother you that he gave the extensions to Schiano and Pikiell such that they can’t be fired for several years even if there was no question about the need to ?