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Quarterbacks: Let's start with why you are all here, then you can go back to your day and not read any further. I truly do think heading into the scrimmage that Frost did not know who was going to start. Damon Benning on the radio had a great explanation on the QB race, and I agree with him completely... "Tristan Gebbia is not going to lose the starting job." Basically, what that means is, TG just doesn't make mistakes. He's quick with his decisions, and may not hit the homerun for you, but he's not going to lose you the game. Conversely, right now AM looks a bit like a true freshman. It could be him still reading the defense and not catching the snap, or other little things, but I think if Akron was this week, TG starts. That being said, AM reminds me a bit of when you hear a baseball scout talk about a major prospect and they say "he makes it look effortless". Watching AM do some things like pull away from a defender or other things involved with his athletic ability just look effortless. While a kid like TG has to put everything he has into the pass, it looks forced. Not a bad thing, I just think one guy is a bit more physically gifted than the other. I still maintain that the starter week 1 won't be the starter for the whole year, but going back to Bennings quote, if the starter is Martinez, we should all be VERY excited, because he TOOK the job from Gebbia. Gebbia won't lose it.

Runningback
We have an embarrassment of riches here. Even with Miles Jones dealing with an extremely minor injury, you still have Bell, Bradley, Bryant, Washington, Ozigbo, and WIlbon. That's before you count guys like Spielman and Lindsey motioning into the backfield or for jet sweeps. In an awful analogy, I look at us a bit like how the Patriots use their RBs. We can split them out wide, put them in the backfield, there's a ton of uses for them, so there's plenty of spots for each guy to get their due. Earlier in fall camp, I basically thought that Oz and WIlbon were going to be lost in things as the staff got "their guys" carries. With what I saw, I think there's a place for Ozigbo. I'll go into it in the OL portion.

Wide Receiver
So this is the position I just don't know enough about. You have Morgan, Spielman, Lindsey, and whoever else you want to put on there. But i'm not impressed with who they line up against, and at times our offense goes so fast that they aren't ready for it. So I don't get a gauge of how good we are 1 on 1, and our offense gives us a glimpse of the challenges it can put on a defense. But I just don't have a handle on how we will be there.

TightEnd
This position is interesting. You have Jack Stoll who can do pretty much everything he is asked. But you have certain guys that are better at what they do than Jack Stoll, they just can't do the other things as well. Stoll gives us a good base to build around. But Austin Allen is a 6'8" monster that could do really well in a play like this where even if the safety doesn't forget about him and covers him, throw it up to him:


Don't sleep on Rafdal either. Extremely athletic and had the best practice out of any of the TEs one of the times I was there. I think we have a few options there to be more than serviceable. Jurgens i'm excited to see what he's like once he is 100%.

OffensiveLine
This is where it gets fun. We have 3 veterans in the middle with Foster, Conrad, Farmer. Jaimes and Farniok as our bookends give us some great young talent to be excited about. And guys like Boe Wilson, Hunter MIller, and John Raridon give us a few names to back us up. I still worry about tackle if one of our starters go down. But our OL had a great push the day I was there. With how big and veteran the inside of our OL is, I can see a big role for Ozigbo or Bell this year just going north/south up the middle. You also have inverted zone reads where the RB can take off to the outside and your QB is up the middle which would seem suited for Martinez. But I need to throw caution again, I think our offense poses such great challenges for our defense, that i'm not sure if it's our guys winning one on one deals, or the scheme and tempo allow us to win. Either way i'm excited to see it against someone other than our own guys.

DefensiveLine
Let's hop into this right away since we just talked OL getting a push. Our staff is very high on our DL. Between Stille, Stoltenberg, Akinmoladun, Davis, Davis, Daniels, and Thomas, that's 7 dudes that can play FBS Power 5 football. But we got pushed around a bit, was that scheme, was that getting tired? Stille will be the best of the bunch, that kid is a monster. Stoltenberg I think is serviceable up the middle, but I believe Daniels will be a stud when his career is all said and done here. Akinmoladun is bigger and stronger, i'm hoping he shows improvement his final year here. The Davis twins and Thomas are all extremely athletic players that we should feel good about having them as "backups" right now. But the bottom line is I don't have the film, and OL definitely won the day.

Linebackers
This area really shined for me. Honas is the only guy that can square up Washington (only time i've seen Washington get hit hard), Young and Barry also doing well at ILB. Weinmaster can help provide some depth along with Miller, but Miller has been moved around so much he's probably a step slow and Weinmaster is somewhat limited. He gets where he needs to be though, so I think Ruud feel comfortable with him on a gameday. Where it gets fun is OLB. Dixon is a beast, Gifford is a returning starter (I think he's not 100% yet but still looks good), Ferguson finally done getting messed around with and looks good, Tannor reminds me a bit of the Striker kid from Oklahoma if you remember him. Can get him in on pass rushing downs to find his niche while he struggles reading everything. Then Guy Thomas and Alex Davis obviously have the ability to fight for a spot. Our linebackers made a ton of tackles 3 or 4 yards down field, and this could end up being a strong spot for us. If our DL plays the way the staff thinks they can, our front 7 could be very good against the run. We just aren't quite there yet.

Secondary
And here is the biggest question mark for the whole team. We very well could have two first year Nebraska players starting at safety in Neal and Deontai Williams. Knowing where to go is paramount, and Bryant can get everyone lined up right. Deontai is in a battle with Aaron Williams, Antonio Reed, Dismuke, Domann, and the two freshmen. In my opinion the cream hasn't risen to the top yet, but I think we can be serviceable here. Corner gets scary. We have a kid who hasn't played the position before and is a true freshman doing everything he needs to to eventually start first year on campus. There's just so much you can't know until the bullets fly on a Saturday. Lamar Jackson looks so good in some practices, but you are constantly reminded of his lack of physicality last year. Eric Lee is pretty sound fundamentally, but his size limits him sometimes. Will Jackson may just make it so he has to play. I really have no clue at this position and Fisher will get them ready, but corner recruiting for 2019 is so important.

Overall
We are going to struggle sometimes. As i've been preaching, everything that Vegas thought was a reason for us to take a step back in 2017 is still here in 2018 (new QB, new defensive coordinator). You then add in a new HC that brought a new offense and new offensive coordinator, there's going to be hiccups. For us to hit the overs, we have to win every game we are favored in AND upset a team we are a 6 point dog or greater against preseason. I think Scott Frost is a good enough coach that we can win a game or two we are underdogs in. But first year can also bring you a loss or two you don't expect. I still see 7-5, but 6-6 or 8-4 certainly wouldn't surprise me. 9-3 or 5-7 would surprise me, one way or the other. But for me, it will be interesting to see what we pride ourselves on. What's important to the coaches. If we find out our defense can't stop anyone, do we just highlight our offense, show how many points we can score and use that narrative "we just need a few playmakers on defense" for the 2019 class? Or if our defense isn't up to snuff, does our offense protect it and not go as fast all the time as we would like? First year at UCF, the defense carried the offense. It will be interesting to watch.

Other Notes
Strength and Conditioning is working. What they are trying to establish is a mentality. Jason Peter brought it up, but half the battle is the mental edge over your opponent that come 4th quarter you were stronger than the other guy, whether that was true or not. Us having our kids put more weight on the bar and do it is a psychological boost. We are making great gains (no they aren't quite as great as they list, but no football media guide is ever 100% truthful).

Accountability to go along with the strength training. Just as I said our stretching/warm-ups wasn't our issue in the other thread, our S&C and what we did (didn't do) there wasn't our issue. A head coach and athletic director that makes kids do the right things is going to help more than whatever the workouts are. Again, make sure you take advantage of the training table. Don't reward kids with days off from lifting. Our previous strength staff had an Epley disciple on it, we did this metabolic circuit with the previous staff, but when it gets shut down it's tough to continue to do. If Owens and Lindsey would have had the issues that they did with a different administration, these workouts would have been shut down again. But as Frost said "we have the right people here now". You have to have your AD, academic staff, strength coach, nutritionist, all pulling in the same direction. So your AD pulled what you could or couldn't do, nutritionist didn't care if kids didn't go to the training table, coaches told S&C staff their players needed a few days off, so you have less kids in the weight room doing a secondary workout, and we wonder why we went 4-8?

Unity of purpose This goes along with accountability as well as my next injury section, but you hear Tanner Farmer mention that you were getting pulled in so many different directions. Chemistry can cover up a lot of blemishes. You think about Collin Miller being scout team MVP as an edge rusher, then Diaco coming and him moving to ILB, how can you be good? Same with Ferguson, now he's in one spot and challenging for a starting role. Heck, our defense wasn't the issue under Riley, but we ran 3 different defenses all 3 seasons. First season what it was, second season our lawyer decided we needed to rugby tackle and changed angles, then we told our head coach we need to hire Diaco and went 3-4. How are the kids supposed to do their best when it's a brand new system every year? Trust me, Chinander being on board with this offense helping their defense and being the best scheme in the country is huge.

Injuries I'm excited we won't be talking about these. It got a little out of control with how forward Mike Riley was with them, and then the media having access to practice and quoting "soft tissue injury" when a kid was literally just sitting out to rest soreness. I also think that our new way of making you earn your spot is going to help tremendously. If you sit out, you aren't automatically re-inserted to where you were on the depth chart. You hear about in the 90s that guys didn't want to sit out, because you never knew where your reps would go and if you would get them back. We had starters missing the entire week of practice then starting on Saturday. That makes it kind of difficult to get ready.

That's all I got for now. Feel free to roast me as i'm sure there's kids I forgot or just had a bad day the couple times I saw them. 7-5.

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Great write up, thanks for posting! Couple of questions...

1. Did you get to see JoJo at practices? If so what are your thoughts? He is getting some hype from the coaches.
2. How would you compare practices now compared to Riley's? I have heard they are very fast paced and challenging for the players but fun.
3. Did any assistant coaches stand out to you during practice?

Thanks!
 
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Great write up, thanks for posting! Couple of questions...

1. Did you get to see JoJo at practices? If so what are your thoughts? He is getting some hype from the coaches.
2. How would you compare practices now compared to Riley's? I have heard they are very fast paced and challenging for the players but fun.
3. Did any assistant coaches stand out to you during practice?

Thanks!
Have to go to huskermax and ask sso. I'm just the guy behind the guy behind the guy.Winking
 

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ShortSideOption is Damon Benning.

Are you sure about that? I know he is over on these boards but over at HMax SSO flat out denied that he was DB. And this write up would have him speaking in the third person, which I don’t think DB would do in my opinion.
Regardless I value this input from an observation point of view
In summary a lot of pieces need to fit together just right to have a winning season. Enjoy it fellow Husker fans. For those of you going down for the opener I’ll be there for the grand opening of this new chapter
Go Big Red
 

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I love hearing T Gebbia is doing great and picking things up fast. He’s a very smart QB, can make the throws and disect defenses. And with the WRs and RBs we have, we could be putting up big numbers. Like you said, if A Martinez takes the starting spot from Gebbia, that really is a good thing. Because that means Martinez has picked up the mental part of the game and is making faster decisions and mistake free football (or as mistake free as you can get for two freshman’s). Gebbia possibly leading the race is not a bad thing. The young man is a baller, lives in the film room and studying our plays, the other teams plays and so on and so forth. Again his ONLY knock is his weight, but he’s got everything else when it comes to a good passing QB that’s fast enough to run Frosts offense. I’m excited for this season, bring on Sept 1st already ;)
 

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Hasn't Damon Benning been sort of off on these kinds of things in the past?
 

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Its amazing all the inside information that gets posted here. I must be the only person practice is closed to.

Figured there would be some butt hurt fans on here if they started to hear anything resembling Gebbia possibly beating A Martinez in the QB race. I know, HEAVEN FOR FREAKING BID. Gebbia is 100 pounds soaking wet...he’s to skinny and it will make his decision making slower and so on and so on, right!?!?!? Gebbia is a hell of a QB himself and A Martinez is a barely 18 year old true freshman. He’s still going to be very raw. He could still pass up Gebbia or hell....he may not. Gebbia is a very smart QB that shouldn’t ever lose us games from decision making. It’s not a bad thing. So what if Gebbia wins it and so what if A Martinez wins it. I’m happy with either one.
 

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Thanks for posting this. This year should be interesting to say the least. I have no false sense of reality for this season, however I do expect that this team will improve as the season moves along, and will be playing solid football by the end of the year. And I will be satisfied with that.
 
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ShortSideOption is Damon Benning.

If true, it seems weird that he is quoting himself here in the third person:

I still maintain that the starter week 1 won't be the starter for the whole year, but going back to Bennings quote, if the starter is Martinez, we should all be VERY excited, because he TOOK the job from Gebbia. Gebbia won't lose it.
 

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I think these boards get a little crazy sometimes. These screens are FUNNY! They make a man THINK things! (*quoting the Shawshank Redemption*).

No but in all seriousness, I have been assuming that most of what was posted here was going to be the case:

QB: Gebbia until Martinez takes it from him, and that's a great thing. Gebbia is smaller and not as much of a tank running around, but look at Milton! This offense requires very fast decisionmaking down a series of like 5 options per play. If Gebbia can basically do that, he's the starter.
RB: So much talent, so many players, so little time.
WR: Great 2-deep, should be a strength as well.
TE: Should be solid to good.
OL: I was iffy on this, because the OP is right, after the starting tackles I'm not sure who goes in after that, but the interior should be good.
DL: Should be a real strength too. We have a 3 deep here now of 3 and 4 star talent. They didn't even bring up Vainuku or Newell, who can also play NT or DE.
LB: Inside LB looks pretty loaded, but OLB seems a little thinner, yes? What's with Avery Roberts, too? Guy was supposed to be a beast.
S: Staaaaaacked, and we have a grad transfer helping train the others and play himself. Having enough of these guys to slip down and play CB every now and then is a good thing, because:
CB: Seems to be a real area of weakness. The starters are good but inconsistent, and who plays after them with meaningful stats?

Special Teams: I am hearing good things.

So, yeah, I still am going to err on the side of caution and say 6-6 just because, but I think 7-5 is super within reach and 8-4 is possible if things really start rolling. I would be bummed out at a 5-7 season, because I think this coaching staff and these players are better than that.
 
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Harry Caray

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So, yeah, I still am going to err on the side of caution and say 6-6 just because, but I think 7-5 is super within reach and 8-4 is possible if things really start rolling. I would be bummed out at a 5-7 season, because I think this coaching staff and these players are better than that.

I'll be very surprised if we don't at least make a bowl game. It will be a major disappointment if we finish below .500.

If this staff could take UCF from 0 wins to 6 wins in year 1, I would hope they could at least get us 7 wins this year.
 

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Quarterbacks: Let's start with why you are all here, then you can go back to your day and not read any further. I truly do think heading into the scrimmage that Frost did not know who was going to start. Damon Benning on the radio had a great explanation on the QB race, and I agree with him completely... "Tristan Gebbia is not going to lose the starting job." Basically, what that means is, TG just doesn't make mistakes. He's quick with his decisions, and may not hit the homerun for you, but he's not going to lose you the game. Conversely, right now AM looks a bit like a true freshman. It could be him still reading the defense and not catching the snap, or other little things, but I think if Akron was this week, TG starts. That being said, AM reminds me a bit of when you hear a baseball scout talk about a major prospect and they say "he makes it look effortless". Watching AM do some things like pull away from a defender or other things involved with his athletic ability just look effortless. While a kid like TG has to put everything he has into the pass, it looks forced. Not a bad thing, I just think one guy is a bit more physically gifted than the other. I still maintain that the starter week 1 won't be the starter for the whole year, but going back to Bennings quote, if the starter is Martinez, we should all be VERY excited, because he TOOK the job from Gebbia. Gebbia won't lose it.

Runningback
We have an embarrassment of riches here. Even with Miles Jones dealing with an extremely minor injury, you still have Bell, Bradley, Bryant, Washington, Ozigbo, and WIlbon. That's before you count guys like Spielman and Lindsey motioning into the backfield or for jet sweeps. In an awful analogy, I look at us a bit like how the Patriots use their RBs. We can split them out wide, put them in the backfield, there's a ton of uses for them, so there's plenty of spots for each guy to get their due. Earlier in fall camp, I basically thought that Oz and WIlbon were going to be lost in things as the staff got "their guys" carries. With what I saw, I think there's a place for Ozigbo. I'll go into it in the OL portion.

Wide Receiver
So this is the position I just don't know enough about. You have Morgan, Spielman, Lindsey, and whoever else you want to put on there. But i'm not impressed with who they line up against, and at times our offense goes so fast that they aren't ready for it. So I don't get a gauge of how good we are 1 on 1, and our offense gives us a glimpse of the challenges it can put on a defense. But I just don't have a handle on how we will be there.

TightEnd
This position is interesting. You have Jack Stoll who can do pretty much everything he is asked. But you have certain guys that are better at what they do than Jack Stoll, they just can't do the other things as well. Stoll gives us a good base to build around. But Austin Allen is a 6'8" monster that could do really well in a play like this where even if the safety doesn't forget about him and covers him, throw it up to him:


Don't sleep on Rafdal either. Extremely athletic and had the best practice out of any of the TEs one of the times I was there. I think we have a few options there to be more than serviceable. Jurgens i'm excited to see what he's like once he is 100%.

OffensiveLine
This is where it gets fun. We have 3 veterans in the middle with Foster, Conrad, Farmer. Jaimes and Farniok as our bookends give us some great young talent to be excited about. And guys like Boe Wilson, Hunter MIller, and John Raridon give us a few names to back us up. I still worry about tackle if one of our starters go down. But our OL had a great push the day I was there. With how big and veteran the inside of our OL is, I can see a big role for Ozigbo or Bell this year just going north/south up the middle. You also have inverted zone reads where the RB can take off to the outside and your QB is up the middle which would seem suited for Martinez. But I need to throw caution again, I think our offense poses such great challenges for our defense, that i'm not sure if it's our guys winning one on one deals, or the scheme and tempo allow us to win. Either way i'm excited to see it against someone other than our own guys.

DefensiveLine
Let's hop into this right away since we just talked OL getting a push. Our staff is very high on our DL. Between Stille, Stoltenberg, Akinmoladun, Davis, Davis, Daniels, and Thomas, that's 7 dudes that can play FBS Power 5 football. But we got pushed around a bit, was that scheme, was that getting tired? Stille will be the best of the bunch, that kid is a monster. Stoltenberg I think is serviceable up the middle, but I believe Daniels will be a stud when his career is all said and done here. Akinmoladun is bigger and stronger, i'm hoping he shows improvement his final year here. The Davis twins and Thomas are all extremely athletic players that we should feel good about having them as "backups" right now. But the bottom line is I don't have the film, and OL definitely won the day.

Linebackers
This area really shined for me. Honas is the only guy that can square up Washington (only time i've seen Washington get hit hard), Young and Barry also doing well at ILB. Weinmaster can help provide some depth along with Miller, but Miller has been moved around so much he's probably a step slow and Weinmaster is somewhat limited. He gets where he needs to be though, so I think Ruud feel comfortable with him on a gameday. Where it gets fun is OLB. Dixon is a beast, Gifford is a returning starter (I think he's not 100% yet but still looks good), Ferguson finally done getting messed around with and looks good, Tannor reminds me a bit of the Striker kid from Oklahoma if you remember him. Can get him in on pass rushing downs to find his niche while he struggles reading everything. Then Guy Thomas and Alex Davis obviously have the ability to fight for a spot. Our linebackers made a ton of tackles 3 or 4 yards down field, and this could end up being a strong spot for us. If our DL plays the way the staff thinks they can, our front 7 could be very good against the run. We just aren't quite there yet.

Secondary
And here is the biggest question mark for the whole team. We very well could have two first year Nebraska players starting at safety in Neal and Deontai Williams. Knowing where to go is paramount, and Bryant can get everyone lined up right. Deontai is in a battle with Aaron Williams, Antonio Reed, Dismuke, Domann, and the two freshmen. In my opinion the cream hasn't risen to the top yet, but I think we can be serviceable here. Corner gets scary. We have a kid who hasn't played the position before and is a true freshman doing everything he needs to to eventually start first year on campus. There's just so much you can't know until the bullets fly on a Saturday. Lamar Jackson looks so good in some practices, but you are constantly reminded of his lack of physicality last year. Eric Lee is pretty sound fundamentally, but his size limits him sometimes. Will Jackson may just make it so he has to play. I really have no clue at this position and Fisher will get them ready, but corner recruiting for 2019 is so important.

Overall
We are going to struggle sometimes. As i've been preaching, everything that Vegas thought was a reason for us to take a step back in 2017 is still here in 2018 (new QB, new defensive coordinator). You then add in a new HC that brought a new offense and new offensive coordinator, there's going to be hiccups. For us to hit the overs, we have to win every game we are favored in AND upset a team we are a 6 point dog or greater against preseason. I think Scott Frost is a good enough coach that we can win a game or two we are underdogs in. But first year can also bring you a loss or two you don't expect. I still see 7-5, but 6-6 or 8-4 certainly wouldn't surprise me. 9-3 or 5-7 would surprise me, one way or the other. But for me, it will be interesting to see what we pride ourselves on. What's important to the coaches. If we find out our defense can't stop anyone, do we just highlight our offense, show how many points we can score and use that narrative "we just need a few playmakers on defense" for the 2019 class? Or if our defense isn't up to snuff, does our offense protect it and not go as fast all the time as we would like? First year at UCF, the defense carried the offense. It will be interesting to watch.

Other Notes
Strength and Conditioning is working. What they are trying to establish is a mentality. Jason Peter brought it up, but half the battle is the mental edge over your opponent that come 4th quarter you were stronger than the other guy, whether that was true or not. Us having our kids put more weight on the bar and do it is a psychological boost. We are making great gains (no they aren't quite as great as they list, but no football media guide is ever 100% truthful).

Accountability to go along with the strength training. Just as I said our stretching/warm-ups wasn't our issue in the other thread, our S&C and what we did (didn't do) there wasn't our issue. A head coach and athletic director that makes kids do the right things is going to help more than whatever the workouts are. Again, make sure you take advantage of the training table. Don't reward kids with days off from lifting. Our previous strength staff had an Epley disciple on it, we did this metabolic circuit with the previous staff, but when it gets shut down it's tough to continue to do. If Owens and Lindsey would have had the issues that they did with a different administration, these workouts would have been shut down again. But as Frost said "we have the right people here now". You have to have your AD, academic staff, strength coach, nutritionist, all pulling in the same direction. So your AD pulled what you could or couldn't do, nutritionist didn't care if kids didn't go to the training table, coaches told S&C staff their players needed a few days off, so you have less kids in the weight room doing a secondary workout, and we wonder why we went 4-8?

Unity of purpose This goes along with accountability as well as my next injury section, but you hear Tanner Farmer mention that you were getting pulled in so many different directions. Chemistry can cover up a lot of blemishes. You think about Collin Miller being scout team MVP as an edge rusher, then Diaco coming and him moving to ILB, how can you be good? Same with Ferguson, now he's in one spot and challenging for a starting role. Heck, our defense wasn't the issue under Riley, but we ran 3 different defenses all 3 seasons. First season what it was, second season our lawyer decided we needed to rugby tackle and changed angles, then we told our head coach we need to hire Diaco and went 3-4. How are the kids supposed to do their best when it's a brand new system every year? Trust me, Chinander being on board with this offense helping their defense and being the best scheme in the country is huge.

Injuries I'm excited we won't be talking about these. It got a little out of control with how forward Mike Riley was with them, and then the media having access to practice and quoting "soft tissue injury" when a kid was literally just sitting out to rest soreness. I also think that our new way of making you earn your spot is going to help tremendously. If you sit out, you aren't automatically re-inserted to where you were on the depth chart. You hear about in the 90s that guys didn't want to sit out, because you never knew where your reps would go and if you would get them back. We had starters missing the entire week of practice then starting on Saturday. That makes it kind of difficult to get ready.

That's all I got for now. Feel free to roast me as i'm sure there's kids I forgot or just had a bad day the couple times I saw them. 7-5.

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Good stuff. My takeaway is that I already feel bad for Gebbia the first time he makes a couple of mistakes. Suddenly the people who don't understand the game will become the loud, vocal crowd imploring Verduzco and Frost to play Martinez NOW. Can't wait.
 
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I think Avery Roberts is just caught in the logjam in the middle. He was supposedly a little "out of shape" in the spring and had to play catch up to some degree.
 

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If true, it seems weird that he is quoting himself here in the third person:

I still maintain that the starter week 1 won't be the starter for the whole year, but going back to Bennings quote, if the starter is Martinez, we should all be VERY excited, because he TOOK the job from Gebbia. Gebbia won't lose it.
Maybe he's quoting himself to try and make people think that he's not DB?
 

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I've been trying to tell you that a QB who is accurate and smart with his passes and can grab 5-10 yards with his feet is a bigger asset than a QB who can be erratic or make the wrong reads but scramble for chunk plays. Some people just can't accept that the QB isn't going to carry 15-20 times a game but he IS going to throw 30+ times in this offense.

People have been undervaluing what accuracy and decision making mean to this system.
 
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I've been trying to tell you that a QB who is accurate and smart with his passes and can grab 5-10 yards with his feet is a bigger asset than a QB who can be erratic or make the wrong reads but scramble for chunk plays. Some people just can't accept that the QB isn't going to carry 15-20 times a game but he IS going to throw 30+ times in this offense.

People have been undervaluing what accuracy and decision making mean to this system.
run the damn ball
 

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I've been trying to tell you that a QB who is accurate and smart with his passes and can grab 5-10 yards with his feet is a bigger asset than a QB who can be erratic or make the wrong reads but scramble for chunk plays. Some people just can't accept that the QB isn't going to carry 15-20 times a game but he IS going to throw 30+ times in this offense.

People have been undervaluing what accuracy and decision making mean to this system.

Yeah, Beav, you just basically described the OTHER Martinez we've had in the last decade when you say erratic but can run and scramble well. And we all know how frustrating THAT was. Sure, he won us a lot of games, but he also lost us games too, and it was a freakin' anxiety-inducing nightmare watching some of those performances.
 

DerHusker_rivals270018

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run the damn ball
 

bshirt73

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Yeah, Beav, you just basically described the OTHER Martinez we've had in the last decade when you say erratic but can run and scramble well. And we all know how frustrating THAT was. Sure, he won us a lot of games, but he also lost us games too, and it was a freakin' anxiety-inducing nightmare watching some of those performances.

I don't think so......our defense getting run over with the greatest of ease was by FAR the biggest reason NU lost those games.
 

HominidHusker

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Seems like a good time to revisit Gebbia’s senior year stats:
5338 passing yards
61 TDs
11 INTs
293 rushing yards
10 rushing TDs

over 13,000 career passing yards and 141 TDs

I know he was throwing to studs, but dude can ball. Those stats are insane.
 

inWV

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Seems like a good time to revisit Gebbia’s senior year stats:
5338 passing yards
61 TDs
11 INTs
293 rushing yards
10 rushing TDs

over 13,000 career passing yards and 141 TDs

I know he was throwing to studs, but dude can ball. Those stats are insane.
I submit that he has a better receiving corps now than he did in HS ;)
 

jlb321_rivals110621

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Good stuff. My takeaway is that I already feel bad for Gebbia the first time he makes a couple of mistakes. Suddenly the people who don't understand the game will become the loud, vocal crowd imploring Verduzco and Frost to play Martinez NOW. Can't wait.

those same fans will also be calling for Frost to be fired and want to name Frankie London head coach after our first loss
 
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ZJSARENOTFREE

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It is a decent write up, and he normally has some info, but like he said he is high level, and I really doubt he is going to give up any of the real info at anytime. Most of what he wrote is all fluid, and I doubt he is willing to put his chance to attend practice on the line by giving much inside info.
 
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Seems like a good time to revisit Gebbia’s senior year stats:
5338 passing yards
61 TDs
11 INTs
293 rushing yards
10 rushing TDs

over 13,000 career passing yards and 141 TDs

I know he was throwing to studs, but dude can ball. Those stats are insane.
Those stats are inflated because he was throwing to Keyshawn Johnson Jr. anyone could have put up those stats with such an incredible WR catching everything in sight.............