What the hell were they thinking? 2 plays in a row?
F' that Tush Push
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So stupid. Spread them out in the snow. So dumb.
I nvr liked the play to begin with, running right into the meat pile.
RU doesn't get low enough quite often.
Philly is the best because they use a slight lean to left or right and not straight on
Philly is the best because they use a slight lean to left or right and not straight on
Do you not like the attempt because it is snowing, or because we're on our 2nd & 3rd team OL?
Need a qb that can squat 500 pounds (Hurts). Otherwise it’s a waste.
The only time they should use the stupid play is if you have less than a yard to gain. I can’t tell you how upset I get when they line up in that crap with 2 plus yds to go. There is no way the OL can get any leverage with that formation, Especially in slick conditions. You have a great RB, give it to him near the goal line.
Disagree. Those things are adversely impacted by ‘normal’ dives too, and same impact on defenders.
The weather impact is the same for both run plays and players on both sides. Problem is, no push.
The weather impact is the same for both run plays and players on both sides. Problem is, no push.
Athan does it completely wrong. Hurts, 1st stays low the whole time you never see him. Second, he finds the crease between the center and guard where you now have 4 pushing Center, Guard, QB and RB. Athan does not stay low and rides up the pile, he follows the center and eliminates another guy pushing. He has no idea how to do it, so stop doing it.
That's true - RU goes too high and QB doesn't scan pile.
Watch Philly - the QB delays just enough to pick his spot.
The blockers will also often nudge slightly to one side and the QB and some blockers can go to the other side.
A few clicks left or right makes a big difference
Philly is the best on the push (or the "maul" in rugby)
In fairness, it has worked for us. But not for 2 yards.
The argument against that is that you’re handing the ball off at a negative and have to gain more yards.
you’re still tasking your OL with the same job, although I guess you could say the I formation gives the play more time to develop.
I'm not buying the negative yards bit given it's been employed to great success in the past. the issue is that teams are built for it and outside speed rush becomes a problem.
the advantages, with 2 TE sets is you get a full head of steam and a lead blocker without worrying too much on the outside rush.
just not a fan of the tush push at all
But it was first down. If you can get between 1/2 yard and 1 yard on a tush push, you can run in 2 or 3 straight times from the 2 yard line and be sure of scoring (absent a penalty).
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The Eagles have an elite OL and RB and a QB that has the lower body strength of Hercules. No other team at any level could successfully execute that play better than the Eagles.
but they can't get the yards. stuffed on 2 plays. huge turnover at that point of the game and they settled for the FG
I was just trying to make the point that it does make sense to use the tush push from the 2 yard line IF you are able to get 1/2 yard to 1 yard per rush push. I agree that Rutgers struggles getting that distance on the tush push, and thus shouldn’t do it.