Expect another light schedule (notes from Carino)

kcg88

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4. Round out the schedule. Right now Rutgers is visiting Seton Hall, hosting in the Big Ten/ACC Challenge and back in the Gavitt Games against an unknown Big East opponent. The Scarlet Knights also are visiting UMass and hosting a three- or four-team exempt tournament that includes Miami of Ohio. Asked if he would consider entering a neutral-site Feast Week tournament if a spot opened, Pikiell said, “I’m not really thinking that way right now.” The rest of the schedule will be filled out with mid- and low-majors.
 

shields

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So no ACC challenge game. So Big East game will be road game, Pitt and Miami on road. Just a joke.
 

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Need to go 2-1 or better against Seton Hall and our ACC/Big East challenge opponents and lose no more than one game to a mid or low major.

Smart money is against the Big Ten getting ten bids again. A St. Bonaventure type loss could be the difference next year.
 

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So no ACC challenge game. So Big East game will be road game, Pitt and Miami on road. Just a joke.

There will be an ACC Challenge game and it will be at home. There are always 14 games. Every Big Ten team participates, one ACC team sits out.
 
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Sigh

We better get strong oplonents for our challenges not Miami for the 10th time and St Johns or De Paul yet again
 
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Highly doubt we play at UMass but not concerned about the OOC schedule whatsoever. There will be legitimate press covering RU that eliminates having to fight uphill on "who did you schedule" and perception like years past.

I would imagine we land a team like Virginia or NC State in ACC/B1G challenge and at Seton Hall is obviously another game....add the 3rd Big East opponent which isn't going to be DePaul and could easily be St John's or Providence and there's nothing wrong with the schedule, once you factor in 20 B1G opponents.
 

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My guess for the ACC game would be Syracuse. They hosted PSU last year..
 

kcg88

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Highly doubt we play at UMass but not concerned about the OOC schedule whatsoever. There will be legitimate press covering RU that eliminates having to fight uphill on "who did you schedule" and perception like years past.

I would imagine we land a team like Virginia or NC State in ACC/B1G challenge and at Seton Hall is obviously another game....add the 3rd Big East opponent which isn't going to be DePaul and could easily be St John's or Providence and there's nothing wrong with the schedule, once you factor in 20 B1G opponents.

Press does not matter. The resume does.
 

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Need to go 2-1 or better against Seton Hall and our ACC/Big East challenge opponents and lose no more than one game to a mid or low major.

Smart money is against the Big Ten getting ten bids again. A St. Bonaventure type loss could be the difference next year.

Nah. Just win more games.
 

PatrickRU92

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Right time to catch Cuse they may be at an all time low (in my lifetime at least) but still the thought of playing against their zone given our aversion to 3 pt shooting makes me nervous
 

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Yes that stupid zone might give us fits. But if Syracuse is that bad maybe they get Minnesota or Northwestern.
 

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I don't understand the lack of interest in participating in a neutral court preseason tournament.Rutgers needs to win road games to enhance their resume.
I really think Pike must think that with the Big 10 being the best and toughest conference depth wise and it really isn’t close, that the 20 game schedule is the toughest in the country to start, then add in Seton Hall, then add in Big 10/ACC challenge and Gavitt Games that is 24 games likely against Quad 1 and Quad 2 competition, so he must think that his strength of schedule will be good enough. Frankly, I would love to see us play in these preseason tourneys in November and December and even against good competition because they will be great games, but I guess he doesn’t want to raise his loss total to where Purdue and Minnesota were this year and have another hurdle to climb down the stretch.
 

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While we all want to see RU play in a tournament whether it be feast week or one of the many others this schedule makes sense.

With 20 BIG games plus the Hall, ACC and Gavitt games we get 23 of 31 games against P5 teams. With only 8 other games to play you need to have some home games against mid to low majors. If they throw in Umass on the road along with Seton Hall at the hall this will still end up being a SOS that will be just fine come March if we are winning.
 
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I really think Pike must think that with the Big 10 being the best and toughest conference depth wise and it really isn’t close, that the 20 game schedule is the toughest in the country to start, then add in Seton Hall, then add in Big 10/ACC challenge and Gavitt Games that is 24 games likely against Quad 1 and Quad 2 competition, so he must think that his strength of schedule will be good enough. Frankly, I would love to see us play in these preseason tourneys in November and December and even against good competition because they will be great games, but I guess he doesn’t want to raise his loss total to where Purdue and Minnesota were this year and have another hurdle to climb down the stretch.

There is a balance but if Purdue won 2 more games theyd be in the tourney. If you are good you shouldn't fear the schedule. I do think though this team relies too much on the RAC to help them in adversity. Like to see them challenged on the road early to test

Im okay with this schedule if we are playing ncaa caliber schools in those challenge games
 

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There is a balance but if Purdue won 2 more games theyd be in the tourney. If you are good you shouldn't fear the schedule. I do think though this team relies too much on the RAC to help them in adversity. Like to see them challenged on the road early to test

Im okay with this schedule if we are playing ncaa caliber schools in those challenge games
Agreed we need more challenged road or neutral games. Pike doesn’t agree right now.
 

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We could have the weakest OOC schedule in the country next year and still be ranked top-50 SOS just based on the B1G schedule alone. Add in two games against BE teams and one against against the ACC and top-40 SOS is pretty much a lock.
 
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Press does not matter. The resume does.

100% incorrect....

RU had a resume equal to better than teams that were considered 6 or 7 seeds.....and the only difference between those schools and RU was perception and starting the season in the Top 25. Kenpom and NET are closely similar in the raw data.....it was the human element that made Marquette a lock for the NCAAs for 4 months, despite their numbers looking exactly the same on Kenpom, NET and elsewhere.....

If you want to state their SOS was top 10 vs their actual performance, that would be your only option to argue for or against RU in a Marquette example.
 

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Early season tournament would be great. This team is going to be talented, experienced, deep and hungry. Could totally jump a few programs to get some much needed cred early on in the season before everyone figured out their rotations and start to gel.
 

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100% incorrect....

RU had a resume equal to better than teams that were considered 6 or 7 seeds.....and the only difference between those schools and RU was perception and starting the season in the Top 25. Kenpom and NET are closely similar in the raw data.....it was the human element that made Marquette a lock for the NCAAs for 4 months, despite their numbers looking exactly the same on Kenpom, NET and elsewhere.....

If you want to state their SOS was top 10 vs their actual performance, that would be your only option to argue for or against RU in a Marquette example.


it wasnt perception it was the 2-10 road mark, if that was 4-8, RU would be a 7 or 8 no question...I hope you realize that because RU didnt win vs quality teams on the road, its profile was behind the 5-7s seeds like OSU, Illinois, PSU, Michigan. Why will you not accept the road thing is a huge part of the process, its not perception..road mark factors into these ratings and selection process.

Marquette was a lock for the year because they had built up so much...by the end of the year they played themselves into a 9/10 where RU was going to be seeded ahead of them.
 
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bac2therac

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just shaking my head at this...Penn State who will be down next year...right in our backyard..what a ******* shame
 
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just shaking my head at this...Penn State who will be down next year...right in our backyard..what a ****ing shame
Great exposure for Press Virginia if Tshiebwe stays. No Stevens or Watkins in the front court. Their guards can shut down Penn State’s guards.
 

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I hope we can play Syracuse in the BIG-ACC Challenge at the RAC next fall. That would be sweet.
 

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it wasnt perception it was the 2-10 road mark, if that was 4-8, RU would be a 7 or 8 no question...I hope you realize that because RU didnt win vs quality teams on the road, its profile was behind the 5-7s seeds like OSU, Illinois, PSU, Michigan. Why will you not accept the road thing is a huge part of the process, its not perception..road mark factors into these ratings and selection process.

Marquette was a lock for the year because they had built up so much...by the end of the year they played themselves into a 9/10 where RU was going to be seeded ahead of them.
All we had to do was beat St. Bonaventure and Pitt and we wouldn’t have been sweating so much at the end of the year.
 
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100% incorrect....

RU had a resume equal to better than teams that were considered 6 or 7 seeds.....and the only difference between those schools and RU was perception and starting the season in the Top 25. Kenpom and NET are closely similar in the raw data.....it was the human element that made Marquette a lock for the NCAAs for 4 months, despite their numbers looking exactly the same on Kenpom, NET and elsewhere.....

If you want to state their SOS was top 10 vs their actual performance, that would be your only option to argue for or against RU in a Marquette example.

Just curious did those teams that were considered 6 or 7 seeds have comparable records away from home?