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Yes it was. That's why so many lies were told about its origins. They knew as they were lying about it exactly where it came from and what its purpose being manufactured was for? It was not a naturally occcuring virus. It was a manufactured variant.
As I said, Trump was in the way. If it wasn't him, they still would have released it. It just so happens he was President and his economic policies were placing America too far ahead of the Globalist plans to control the World economy, so they had to get rid of him first. They used the virus to do that. The only way to remove him was to force a collapse of the strong economy he was leading, then blame him for it. That's exactly how it went down.
Can you explain why proven and cheaper therapeutics to stop the virus were not allowed to be used by Doctors? People who tried to publish the success rates of treatments like Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine were either de platformed or had their medical licenses revoked. Why? Studies proving the dangers of the so called vaccine were censored. Why? You cannot explain that, but everything I just told you is 100% true.
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Please point out what part of how I responded to you was wrong? You keep saying I'm wrong, but I was very specific answering you. Why haven't you told me what I got wrong? All you keep saying is "I'm wrong".
OK, please point out what's inaccurate?
It was created. Trump was blamed for it & not re-elected. Why don't 1 +1 =2 to you?
*to this day Leftists on this forum are calling it the "Trumpvirus" and they're also holding him responsible for the poor economy as a result of it!
Facts.
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You absolutely are describing yourself. The source you believe is right and everyone else is wrong because you say so.
***** at me for name calling and then you yourself go name calling
Let's make it simple. You are an ignorant fuking hypocrite
He came on here calling me "stupid" saying my post that the virus was created as a tool to remove Trump from office was wrong. So I gave him the cliff notes version of why I posted that, then asked him to point out what's inaccurate? He left the thread.
It's OK to disagree with statements made on here, that's what this forum is all about! However when you set yourself up above the disagreements, and instead come on here name calling just because other's opinions don't line up with your own, then you'd better be prepared to back it up or face getting put back in your place! In his case, he couldn't hang so he just left.
Fine by me, but who made the "stupid" comments during that little exchange?
That was my point and he missed it. You can't pretend you are right and everyone else is wrong and then say everyone else is wrong because they only believe what they want to believe.It's OK to disagree with statements made on here, that's what this forum is all about! However when you set yourself up above the disagreements, and instead come on here name calling just because other's opinions don't line up with your own, then you'd better be prepared to back it up or face getting put back in your place! In his case, he couldn't hang so he just left.
Fine by me, but who made the "stupid" comments during that little exchange?
Hypocrisy defined. Especially if you can't back up what you claim is incorrect or offer proof of what you claim is correct! I didn't offer "proof" of my claims, however I offered him the actual chronological sequences of events and could have easily backed up what I was saying with hard provable data. (on the origins of the virus for instance, or the lies told about the so called "vaccines") I simply asked him to tell me what statements I made were wrong?
I got crickets.
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I think it had more to do with the world investors stakes in the current “America”.
Here is the simplest way to put it…
China makes the **** (dirt cheap) and we consume it.
Don’t let anyone fool you into anything more than that. Our politicians enrich themselves and their leaders enrich themselves. Trump was in the way. Those tariffs were crippling the Chinese economy. Anyone who paid attention at that time leading up to the election would remember. There was chatter China was about to go into a major Depression as their economy was collapsing. And then “oops, China has an outbreak pandemic”. Perfect timing for the election. Coincidence? Have you ever wondered how China was able to contain the virus to the wuhan, but couldn’t stop it from the world?
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I won't say covid was "intentionally " created to get Trump out of office, it was "intentionally " created by our government in a hostel country. That's a fact .
After it come to the U.S opposition to Trump used it to remove him from office. As would any opposition. Hate Trump all you want but look at things from all angles. I hate Republicans as much as democrats. Did China release it intentionally? What would stop them ? Why wouldn't they ? We know they have no issue killing their own , killing us is easy . China has no issues hacking our systems , taking our intellectual property or flying spy balloons over our country..... why wouldn't they gladly take our( tax payers) money created a bio weapon and intentionally release it and let our crooked politicians do the rest . I can't say it was done solely to get Trump out of office, can't even say the release was intentional. The lies in handling the release was intentional . The death count was intentional. The collapse in the economy was intentional. The voter fraud was intentional.
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I did not run away I a family emergency to take care of. I also did not call you stupid , I called what you said stupid because it was. You have no legitimate proof of what you said , you gave timelines and point here and there but it’s still not proof only what you think it might be. So I am right when I said it’s a conspiracy theory until actually proven to the world.
To Dave go F*ck yourself !!! I never attacked you or said anything derogatory towards you only stating the truth to which you obviously can’t comprehend the statements I made. I never called anyone names at all read my posts.
Let me ask you this how do you feel about our government giving money to China to research biological weapons? Not only paying for the research but repeatedly lying about it . Then the intelligence community and media covering it up.
Did you read the twitter files? If so how did all that make you feel about what our government has been doing? This administration doubled the censorship from past . Covid and all things related to it was based in lies . The outbreak was real ... everything around it has been shady as **** .
Tell me the policies of Trump you hated ? Yes his mouth needs some brakes and he needs a filter . I was all for a different Republican, younger, a bit better public speaking but having the same basic policies of Trump.
I asked you what you thought of the Russian "collusion" conspiracy? Why didn't you answer me?
Fair enough, let's just agree to disagree about this since you're right I can't prove what I said is true (I stated that too) and you can't prove it's NOT true. What we do know is there were a lot of lies and disinformation about it, and Trump is absolutely being blamed for it.
The "everybody does it defense" only works until you have to start naming names or policies that are better. Who do you think is a better choice for us, and what policies do these individuals support?
You should have also asked him about the Hunter Biden laptop "conspiracy" which we were told was Russian disinformation. Did he believe those lies?
Tell me something then @Jay15 ...on what basis do you feel empowered to claim what I posted about the Covid plandemic is "stupid"? I understand YOU don't believe it was designed to remove Trump from Office, but I'm curious why that automatically qualifies you to dismiss my opinion that it was?
He is being blamed for it correct?
He was accused of mishandling the response to it correct?
He was attacked for not taking it seriously correct?
Information about the true dangers of it was censored and misreported, and blamed on him correct?
He is being blamed for the mandatory shutdowns that caused the economy to collapse correct?
His detractors claim he botched the rollout of the so called "vaccines" correct?
Long established voting procedures and protocols were suddenly and illegally changed in response to the fear induced handling of it correct?
He said those changes were illegal, and would lead to massive voter fraud correct?
The changes made without prior approval of various State Legislatures (as required by Law) resulted in an unprecedented number of unverified, & unqualified ballots submitted as legitimate votes correct?
Those ballots were used in vote counts that resulted in Trump losing substantial leads in all of the swing States where the counting had been suddenly suspended correct?
He challenged those unverified and unqualified ballots, and has been blamed for trying to overthrow the election as a result correct?
To this day, we have not been given the exact reasons why all of those vote counts were suspended correct?
We do know without the Covid scam, there was no need the for mass mailings of unsolicited absentee ballots correct?
We also know now, it was totally unnecessary to shut the economy down as a response to Covid correct?
There have been factually proven and never before seen anomalies in the vote patterns and results of those vote counts, in which every one of them suspended resulted in Trump's defeat despite the substantial leads he enjoyed in all of the States that suddenly suspended their vote counts correct?
Now what I've laid out here is certainly not "proof" of what I claimed, nor however is it open to debate. It's all factually verified chronological sequencing of what actually happened. It's because of these facts that I suspect the Covid scam was indeed used as a tool to facilitate the removal of Trump from office. Can you please either factually refute what I've posted here, or explain what exactly I've passed along to you as my suspicions about this past election as a result of our response to the Covid scam qualifies in your mind as "stupid"?
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You last sentence said it all!! Your suspicions not facts. Again all I disagreed with was the statement that Covid was created to get rid of Trump. You can keep pointing thus way and that way but all I said was a stupid statement was again……Covid was created to get rid of Trump……. Again you still don’t have proof but keep deflecting to other things to prove your point. It’s great that you are so in tune with the timeline of events and all the theories, but without actual facts to prove it. So in closing it’s still your suspicion that it could be that or it probably isn’t that at all.Tell me something then @Jay15 ...on what basis do you feel empowered to claim what I posted about the Covid plandemic is "stupid"? I understand YOU don't believe it was designed to remove Trump from Office, but I'm curious why that automatically qualifies you to dismiss my opinion that it was?
He is being blamed for it correct?
He was accused of mishandling the response to it correct?
He was attacked for not taking it seriously correct?
Information about the true dangers of it was censored and misreported, and blamed on him correct?
He is being blamed for the mandatory shutdowns that caused the economy to collapse correct?
His detractors claim he botched the rollout of the so called "vaccines" correct?
Long established voting procedures and protocols were suddenly and illegally changed in response to the fear induced handling of it correct?
He said those changes were illegal, and would lead to massive voter fraud correct?
The changes made without prior approval of various State Legislatures (as required by Law) resulted in an unprecedented number of unverified, & unqualified ballots submitted as legitimate votes correct?
Those ballots were used in vote counts that resulted in Trump losing substantial leads in all of the swing States where the counting had been suddenly suspended correct?
He challenged those unverified and unqualified ballots, and has been blamed for trying to overthrow the election as a result correct?
To this day, we have not been given the exact reasons why all of those vote counts were suspended correct?
We do know without the Covid scam, there was no need the for mass mailings of unsolicited absentee ballots correct?
We also know now, it was totally unnecessary to shut the economy down as a response to Covid correct?
There have been factually proven and never before seen anomalies in the vote patterns and results of those vote counts, in which every one of them suspended resulted in Trump's defeat despite the substantial leads he enjoyed in all of the States that suddenly suspended their vote counts correct?
Now what I've laid out here is certainly not "proof" of what I claimed, nor however is it open to debate. It's all factually verified chronological sequencing of what actually happened. It's because of these facts that I suspect the Covid scam was indeed used as a tool to facilitate the removal of Trump from office. Can you please either factually refute what I've posted here, or explain what exactly I've passed along to you as my suspicions about this past election as a result of our response to the Covid scam qualifies in your mind as "stupid"?
I'll tell you what else is my suspicion based on the "timeline" of events. All of these court cases being filed against Trump are attempts to keep him from being re-elected. I also believe the Russian collusion fake scam was a coup designed to remove him office. You probably don't buy any of those "conspiracies" either?
That's fine. I'm convinced it was a manufactured scam. It was manufactured for a reason. I gave you my reasons. I'm not going to convince you otherwise.
I'll tell you what else is my suspicion based on the "timeline" of events. All of these court cases being filed against Trump are attempts to keep him from being re-elected. I also believe the Russian collusion fake scam was a coup designed to remove him office. You probably don't buy any of those "conspiracies" either?
Court cases are definitely to keep him out of office.
So was the fake bought-and-paid-for "Russian collusion" scam!
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Without Nunes and his team, the plot against the president -- and against the country -- never would have been revealed. Told from the perspective of Nunes and his crack investigators -- men and women who banded together to do the right thing at a crucial moment for our democracy -- the story of the biggest political scandal in a generation reads like a great detective novel, feels like a classic cowboy movie. The congressman from the cattle capital of California really did fight corruption in Washington. Devin Nunes took on the "deep state."
It's not just Biden. It's who owns him. It's who owns the RINOS and Democrats now. Going back to normal as you say isn't happening until we secure the border and start a major pushback against the CCP and their globalist allies selling our country out. Anything else is pissing in the wind.
Eventually you will figure that out. Hopefully it isn't after you are tossed out of your home or your job is given to someone who is willing to work for less.
Do me a favor and just Google "Trump blamed for Covid outbreak" and see what your search engine returns?
Here's my results...just FYI...
Trump blamed for Covid outbreak
It simply is beyond credulity to believe all of that was just coincidence. In Truth it was a pack of lies designed specifically to blame Trump for it, and ostensibly use it as a basis to remove him from Office for his alleged gross negligence handling it. It is unarguable it was a manufactured crisis. It's also unarguable he was blamed for it. I'm not sure why you disagree with me it was part of a broad based plan to get him out of Office, but you probably think the Russian collusion scam was a legitimate story, and wasn't part of a planned coup to remove him from office?
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I get a World Leader being tactful so not to start WW3. Everyone else knows they are not being told the truth.
@Gunny46 I don't see how anyone who's not blinded by Trump hatred cannot understand how Covid was a manufactured scam used as a tool to first blame Trump, then remove him from office because of it! All the lies we were told about it should be enough to convince even the most skeptical skeptics!
@Gunny46 I don't see how anyone who's blinded by Trump hatred can't understand how that Covid scam was used as a tool to first blame Trump, then remove him from office because of it! All the lies we were all told about it should be enough to convince even the most skeptical skeptics!
Between the Border, Russia invading Ukraine, Covid 19, Hezbollah and Iran acting up in the Middle East. One would almost think the Brics Countries and a few others were trying to bankrupt our Country. Then introduce Digital Currency.