ESPN: Simmons promised #1 pick

[KyFord]

You could argue that Ingram has a higher ceiling though right?

The kid already has a jump shot and he has nice height/length. he is also young, and I think he is more talented than Simmons. Obviously Simmons has the frame right now and he is very athletic.

Down the road though, when Ingram adds weight/muscle to his frail body he could end up being an All Star himself.

I do agree that Simmons could be very good if he puts in the work, because we all know he has the body/athleticism. I just really wonder about his character and how much that will effect his development.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

Physically, Simmons projects as an elite defender. He absolutely has every tool to give you that kind of defense. His physical gifts, handle, rebounding and vision are all elite, especially for his age and position. If he can do those things, he's a borderline all-star with no jumper at all. If he learns to slash, or even actually add range, he can be great.

Now, that's his ceiling. His floor is a rich man's Royce White. If all your PF does is defend, rebound and start the break with insane speed and excellent vision, you'll still take that. It doesn't make you a franchise guy, but I'm not sure there's one of those in this draft. Someone may end up being one, but Simmons is the only one who really safely projects as that now.

But will Simmons defend? He didnt seem too interested in it at LSU. His rebounding is elite for college. It will less than elite in the NBA, but who knows by how much.

He has zero jump shot. Zero. Maybe he can develop one. Maybe not.

For his age? Hes old for a rookie. Iirc, hes already older than Booker.

Will he be Evan Turner? MKG? A bigger version of Draymond? A poor mans Lebron? If he shows desire to win, and develops a shot; he can be great. Hes a safe pick for #1 overall in this draft. But in a good draft, hed be top 5. Just too many unanswered questions.

 

[jrpross_rivals]

I'm not the biggest Simmons fan of this board, but it's obvious the kid should be drafted with the first pick of the Nba draft. Talent wise, the kid is right at the top of the board. If the kid matures and works hard on his game on the court, he could be a somewhat leBron lite type of player after a few years of playing in the league. Don't get me wrong, i don't think he ever becomes as good as LeBron is today. Not many people will ever get to say that so it's not fair to expect that from Simmons.

I agree. I honestly don't think he's going to be a superstar. But I'd probably take him first. It is just a really weak draft this year.

I put it this way. In this draft, I think he deserves to go first. I also think he will be the weakest number one draft pick of the last 10 years outside of Anthony Bennett

 

[EdHochuli'sTriceps]

well, it seems like after taking simmons, the sixers are going to do the absolute wrong thing and trade noel--for kris dunn (non-shooting turnover machine older than noel), or something even worse

so i hope you people are right

f the sixers

 

[.S&C.]

Don't think there's any debate. He's the most talented player in the draft. When you're that bad, take the talent.

I wouldn't look at it that way if I were the sixers. The blue print for building a dynasty was put on full display by the Spurs. They didn't necessarily draft on talent, they drafted on need, fit, and really did well with their homework on types of players they look for. The Cards are the same way in baseball. These are franchises built on success that starts at the beginning with smart picks. Not necessarily the most talented.

But the sixers are a dumpster fire for a reason and it is the "first pick". They'll probably just pick as a video gamer would.

 

[Dablueman]

We see a kid like Simmons and we look at what happened at LSU and only that. Go back and watch some tape on him or watch him earlier in the season at LSU. Watch the Hoop Summit and watch his half time interview. By the time we played him the second time he was burned out on the mess at LSU and just wanted to get on with his life. He is very intelligent he understands that the sport is a business. He is not a bad team mate like many on here are trying to pass him off as. In fact he is better when he can play the point forward kind of game where he gets others involved. As a teammate of his how could you not like that. He loves to pass the ball and rebound. He is very fast for his size. He was engaged and competed hard early and as he started to see that the coach he was playing for couldn't develop him or even win no matter how good LSU should have been and they had the talent they should have been good

U know the teams interviewed him they spend lots of money to dig into the heads of kids they are about to invest millions into. To my knowledge no red flags. Also go back and watch the Hoop Summit. Watch Ingram try to guard Murray he is rail thin he damn near got his chest caved in on a screen and he couldn't keep any peremiter players in front of him defensively. Ingram is at least a year or more away to be able to play inside for an NBA team he would be physically dominated. He doesn't handle good enough or defend good enough to to play on the wing. Don't get me wrong he can shoot it and he will be a solid player and maybe an all star eventually. Truth is he reminds me of prince offensively He is built like him and shoots well from the outside he is a bit away defensively to be as good as Tay was but Tay played multi years in college. Ingram is getting a bit of the Duke effect with the media building him up a bit. No way I take Ingram first.

 

[EdHochuli'sTriceps]

I wouldn't look at it that way if I were the sixers. The blue print for building a dynasty was put on full display by the Spurs. They didn't necessarily draft on talent, they drafted on need, fit, and really did well with their homework on types of players they look for.

their dynasty was built on tim duncan, who they drafted #1, even though they already had david robinson

great point

stick to racist internet tough guy bloviating on social issues. leave the basketball alone, champ

 

[Hoskins91_rivals]

I agree. I honestly don't think he's going to be a superstar. But I'd probably take him first. It is just a really weak draft this year.

I put it this way. In this draft, I think he deserves to go first. I also think he will be the weakest number one draft pick of the last 10 years outside of Anthony Bennett

I think he could be as good or better than Wiggins, Irving, and Wall. Oden didn't even play. If he gets a consistent jumpshot I could see him arguably among the best.

Worst case scenario is he's a good two way player who is a nightly triple double threat. If he becomes a respectable spot up shooter, he's the perfect modern "pf"

 

[GonzoCat90]

I wouldn't look at it that way if I were the sixers. The blue print for building a dynasty was put on full display by the Spurs. They didn't necessarily draft on talent, they drafted on need, fit, and really did well with their homework on types of players they look for. The Cards are the same way in baseball. These are franchises built on success that starts at the beginning with smart picks. Not necessarily the most talented.

But the sixers are a dumpster fire for a reason and it is the "first pick". They'll probably just pick as a video gamer would.

Once you have your superstar you look for need and fit. Right now they "need" a superstars and he will "fit" anywhere on the court. It's easy to build around Tim Duncan and have the best coach of all time.

 

[.S&C.]

Once you have your superstar you look for need and fit. Right now they "need" a superstars and he will "fit" anywhere on the court. It's easy to build around Tim Duncan and have the best coach of all time.

Simmons is no Tim Duncan, but yea they do need a superstar. He's not it though.